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[Edited 10/14/09 20:43pm] Yet another horrible joke about Janet's "flops" Where's your album? and btw going platinum doesn't mean it's a flop  | |
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VoicesCarry said: midiscover said: I can't agree that Discipline is as Urban as it gets, at least in its marketing and execution. The first three singles from that project (Feedback, Rock With U, Luv) were pure pop. The Velvet Rope is probably the record with the most consistent Urban appeal that she's released. I don't know what the hell she was thinking releasing Urban music
 Especially when she didn't do it before.Janet had always had major success at Urban, although when she was releasing her biggest hits it was a much different format (more pop-leaning) than it is today. She is one of the biggest crossover artists of all time, as her appeal spanned Top 40, Rhythmic and Urban formats alike. That's hard to do. The production on "Call on Me" is Hip-hop while the vocal arrangements is R&B. The only reason it maybe considered Pop is for the catchy melodic chorus.And I think Discipline was really created to appeal to the Urban audience(basically young black teens (sorry, to put it that way)) but you're right the singles were more pop then R&B (most likely so it would crossover to pop). I hope she doesn't do that with her next album. She needs to leave the shit-hop to Mariah and go back to what made her popular in the first place- Pop. | |
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AlexdeParis said: daPrettyman said: Wasn't that PP remix (edit) on DOAD? No, it's an edit of the album version. You are right. I was thinking about "Alright". **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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VoicesCarry said: daPrettyman said: "Just A Little While" was a number one dance song. "Feedback" didn't hit number one. "Take Care" got LOTS of airplay during the quiet storm. I think WGCI in Chicago was the first to break it. They also broke "Until The End of Time" from JT and made the record company consider releasing it as a single. Feedback went to #1 at Hot Dance Music/Club Play, too. It was definitely made for Top 40 radio, but wound up doing slightly better at Urban, at least in terms of chart placement (even though it's not something Urban would typically play) simply because there is less anti-Janet vitriol at the Urban format versus at Top 40. If Janet were to make a strong Urban-oriented track and send it for adds at Urban and Urban AC only, and *then* try to cross over to Top 40 if/when it became a success at those core formats, I think her chances for having a hit would be much greater. Not according to Billboard: Feedback Pop 100 38 Feedback Pop 100 Airplay 38 Feedback Dance Music/Club Play Singles 6 Feedback Hot Canadian Digital Singles 15 Feedback Hot Dance Singles Sales 9 Feedback Hot Digital Songs 41 Feedback Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 39 Feedback Rhythmic Top 40 26 Feedback The Billboard Hot 100 51 Feedback Top 40 Mainstream 30 **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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midiscover said: VoicesCarry said: Call On Me was a Pop track that wound up doing a lot better at Urban. It was premiered on the biggest Pop station in the country (Z100 in NYC). Janet's singles in general this decade (All For You, Someone To Call My Lover, Just A Little While, etc.) are squarely aimed for Top 40 success and were indeed more successful at that format versus Urban. Call on Me is straight up R&B spiced with Hip-hop. It was premiered on there because Virgin expected it to take off based on Janet's previous Hot 100 accomplishments but 20 Y.O. as a whole was aimed towards the Urban market. Janet said herself that she was only getting love from the Urban side after the SB. Damita Jo is a blend of Pop and R&B. The whole album was done before the Superbowl and then rushed to shelves soon after. I know all her singles BEFORE the Superbowl were aimed for Top 40 or higher success because she always got success on there. But 20 Y.O. and Discipline are as Urban as it gets  I don't know what the hell she was thinking releasing Urban music Especially when she didn't do it before.You are so right. Not to mention, Nelly was extremely hot at the time. That's why that song was debuted on Z-100. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: I think they're the only family in music where every act had at least 1 Top 40 pop or R&B single The Jackson 5/The Jacksons- 23 Pop Top 40, 32 Top 40 R&B, 9 Top 40 Dance Rebbie- 1 Pop Top 40, 4 Top 40 R&B (2 being top 10 singles) Jackie- 1 Top 40 R&B Tito- independent artist Jermaine- 7 Top 40 Pop, 20 Top 40 R&B, 4 Top 40 Dance LaToya- 4 Top 40 R&B, 4 Top 40 Dance Marlon- 1 Top 40 R&B Michael- 37 Top 40 Pop, 41 Top 40 R&B, 21 Top 40 Dance Randy- 1 Top 40 R&B Janet- 33 Top 40 Pop , 42 Top 40 R&B, 39 Top 40 Dance 3T- 1 Top 40 Pop, 1 Top 40 R&B The Jackson Family's #1's on the Billboard Hot 100 total: The Jackson 5 = 4 MJ = 13 Janet = 10 =27 in total. 28 if u include we are the world  "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: Timmy84 said: The Jackson Family's #1's on the Billboard Hot 100 total: The Jackson 5 = 4 MJ = 13 Janet = 10 =27 in total. 28 if u include we are the world That will never happen, lol | |
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daPrettyman said: VoicesCarry said: Feedback went to #1 at Hot Dance Music/Club Play, too. It was definitely made for Top 40 radio, but wound up doing slightly better at Urban, at least in terms of chart placement (even though it's not something Urban would typically play) simply because there is less anti-Janet vitriol at the Urban format versus at Top 40. If Janet were to make a strong Urban-oriented track and send it for adds at Urban and Urban AC only, and *then* try to cross over to Top 40 if/when it became a success at those core formats, I think her chances for having a hit would be much greater. Not according to Billboard: Feedback Pop 100 38 Feedback Pop 100 Airplay 38 Feedback Dance Music/Club Play Singles 6 Feedback Hot Canadian Digital Singles 15 Feedback Hot Dance Singles Sales 9 Feedback Hot Digital Songs 41 Feedback Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 39 Feedback Rhythmic Top 40 26 Feedback The Billboard Hot 100 51 Feedback Top 40 Mainstream 30 Yes according to Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/...k/10957209 Click on the link and scroll down. 
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daPrettyman said: VoicesCarry said: Feedback went to #1 at Hot Dance Music/Club Play, too. It was definitely made for Top 40 radio, but wound up doing slightly better at Urban, at least in terms of chart placement (even though it's not something Urban would typically play) simply because there is less anti-Janet vitriol at the Urban format versus at Top 40. If Janet were to make a strong Urban-oriented track and send it for adds at Urban and Urban AC only, and *then* try to cross over to Top 40 if/when it became a success at those core formats, I think her chances for having a hit would be much greater. Not according to Billboard: Feedback Pop 100 38 Feedback Pop 100 Airplay 38 Feedback Dance Music/Club Play Singles 6 Feedback Hot Canadian Digital Singles 15 Feedback Hot Dance Singles Sales 9 Feedback Hot Digital Songs 41 Feedback Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 39 Feedback Rhythmic Top 40 26 Feedback The Billboard Hot 100 51 Feedback Top 40 Mainstream 30 Not sure where you're getting your info from, but Feedback was her 18th #1 hit on that chart. | |
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How is "Make Me" doing on the charts?? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Timmy84 said: daPrettyman said: Not according to Billboard: Feedback Pop 100 38 Feedback Pop 100 Airplay 38 Feedback Dance Music/Club Play Singles 6 Feedback Hot Canadian Digital Singles 15 Feedback Hot Dance Singles Sales 9 Feedback Hot Digital Songs 41 Feedback Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 39 Feedback Rhythmic Top 40 26 Feedback The Billboard Hot 100 51 Feedback Top 40 Mainstream 30 Yes according to Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/...k/10957209 This was on allmusic.com Click on the link and scroll down.
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VoicesCarry said: daPrettyman said: Not according to Billboard: Feedback Pop 100 38 Feedback Pop 100 Airplay 38 Feedback Dance Music/Club Play Singles 6 Feedback Hot Canadian Digital Singles 15 Feedback Hot Dance Singles Sales 9 Feedback Hot Digital Songs 41 Feedback Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 39 Feedback Rhythmic Top 40 26 Feedback The Billboard Hot 100 51 Feedback Top 40 Mainstream 30 Not sure where you're getting your info from, but Feedback was her 18th #1 hit on that chart. I see that now (thanx Tim). I was pulling from Allmusic. I see u guys are pulling from Billboard's site. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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"Feedback" peaked at #19 on the Hot 100.
Not #51! | |
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midiscover said: trueiopian said: WALK FOR THE GODS!!!!! Janet done snatched everyone's wig and  @ the lady in red saying "Oh my God!" Yes!!!!! God is right before your eyes!
[Edited 10/14/09 15:53pm] snatchin' wigs? 
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By the looks of things, it doesn't look like Janet's going to be fully promoting "Make Me" as a single.
No radio add date. No video (that we know of). No live performances scheduled. Looks like they're just throwing the album out in 4th quarter to take advantage of holiday sales and expecting it to be a steady catalog title. I'm glad to be adding this to my collection. However, since it's Janet Jackson, I definitely think this deserves proper promotion! Hopefully, I'm wrong and they just haven't announced anything yet! | |
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daPrettyman said: VoicesCarry said: Not sure where you're getting your info from, but Feedback was her 18th #1 hit on that chart. I see that now (thanx Tim). I was pulling from Allmusic. I see u guys are pulling from Billboard's site. Allmusic's a mothafuckin' lie, lol | |
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amit1234 said: By the looks of things, it doesn't look like Janet's going to be fully promoting "Make Me" as a single.
No radio add date. No video (that we know of). No live performances scheduled. Looks like they're just throwing the album out in 4th quarter to take advantage of holiday sales and expecting it to be a steady catalog title. I'm glad to be adding this to my collection. However, since it's Janet Jackson, I definitely think this deserves proper promotion! Hopefully, I'm wrong and they just haven't announced anything yet! I thought the add date was sometime at the end of September. However, I don't see the song doing anything. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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bboy87 said: midiscover said: WALK FOR THE GODS!!!!! Janet done snatched everyone's wig and @ the lady in red saying "Oh my God!" Yes!!!!! God is right before your eyes!
[Edited 10/14/09 15:53pm] snatchin' wigs?
LOL! That poor girl!  | |
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amit1234 said: By the looks of things, it doesn't look like Janet's going to be fully promoting "Make Me" as a single.
No radio add date. No video (that we know of). No live performances scheduled. Looks like they're just throwing the album out in 4th quarter to take advantage of holiday sales and expecting it to be a steady catalog title. I'm glad to be adding this to my collection. However, since it's Janet Jackson, I definitely think this deserves proper promotion! Hopefully, I'm wrong and they just haven't announced anything yet!
Over the past decade I learned to keep my expectations low when it comes to Janet. She won't promote "Make me" because she doesn't want to. Plain and simple and I believe she's just releasing this greatest hits collection as a sort of novelty thing and because she didn't fulfill her contract with Virgin Records before she left in 2006. But I wouldn't expect much from this. It won't sell 10-12 million like Design of the Decade. | |
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I'm very excited about this release. I'm tempted to pre order it on Amazon but maybe waiting for the Cd to hit stores might be wiser. | |
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VinnyM27 said: I'm very excited about this release. I'm tempted to pre order it on Amazon but maybe waiting for the Cd to hit stores might be wiser.
It usually is. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Apparently the Ralph Rosario remixes of "Make Me" have leaked.
Haven't heard them yet but I'll check for them online tonight. Perhaps another Billboard #1 Dance hit? | |
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amit1234 said: Apparently the Ralph Rosario remixes of "Make Me" have leaked.
Haven't heard them yet but I'll check for them online tonight. Perhaps another Billboard #1 Dance hit? 
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EmeraldSkies said: *Adds this to list of music to get*
I thought it was already on the list. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: EmeraldSkies said: *Adds this to list of music to get*
I thought it was already on the list. Not on my list. I wasn't aware that she was planning on releasing a #1 package,I only new of the new song.Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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blessedk said: Cinnie said: YESSSSS  Diamonds, I'm so excited to see this on there.  Me too. | |
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VinnyM27 said: I'm very excited about this release. I'm tempted to pre order it on Amazon but maybe waiting for the Cd to hit stores might be wiser.
I agree. | |
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