midiscover said:

At first, he go down the stairs and sing to the girl (This was during the first leg in Japan and Australia where the girls wouldn't go crazy and screaming) but for the second and third legs, the girl would be brought up to the stage and then escorted off (There's one performance where this one Grace Jones lookin' chick was picked and towered over Michael )

I told you Michael was influenced by RN and Heartbreak. That was obvious for Dangerous, Teddy and Michael felt the song should be more darker and added that buildup. (The demo from '89 started with Michael yelling because a sound wall fell on him )

Apparently, Bobby Brown tried to get at Michael and Janet because he felt they were trying to take his sound

midiscover said:

At first, he go down the stairs and sing to the girl (This was during the first leg in Japan and Australia where the girls wouldn't go crazy and screaming) but for the second and third legs, the girl would be brought up to the stage and then escorted off (There's one performance where this one Grace Jones lookin' chick was picked and towered over Michael )

I told you Michael was influenced by RN and Heartbreak. That was obvious for Dangerous, Teddy and Michael felt the song should be more darker and added that buildup. (The demo from '89 started with Michael yelling because a sound wall fell on him )

Apparently, Bobby Brown tried to get at Michael and Janet because he felt they were trying to take his sound

bboy87 said:

Bobby should sit!! He done jacked Janet with "Control" and even he admitted he wanted to be the male version of Janet

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daPrettyman said:

It is a pic from the DJ era.

Timmy84 said:

The cover of the CD is from the All For You tourbook

bboy87 said:

Bobby should sit!! He done jacked Janet with "Control" and even he admitted he wanted to be the male version of Janet

midiscover said:

I see it now. I've never seen Bad and Nasty's choreography side by side, but I still think Nasty was influenced by Beat It. The atmosphere of Nasty is similar to Beat It


Looks like this Beat It (1983)---Nasty (1986)--Bad(filmed 1986) (1987) No

Pleasure Principle(1986)--Jam(1992) Yes

Remember The Time(1992)---If(1993) No

Captain EO(1986)--Rhythm Nation(1989) No

Black or White(1991)----Runaway(1995) Yes

Smooth Criminal(filmed 1987)(1988)---Alright (1989) No


They would definitely take the bounce concepts and moves between each other


btw: Jermaine's Dynamite was influenced by Beat It and Marlon's Don't Go looks like he got the idea from Pleasure Principle

bboy87 said:

CH!!

Remember the Time and If aren't similar and neither is Smooth Criminal and Alright and neither is Captain EO and Rhythm Nation and neither is Beat it and Nasty

Listen to Tabloid Junkie and If back to back


Janetttt

midiscover said:

the choreography in If doesn't remind you of Remember The Time's in the slightest?

and that Beat It/ Nasty/ Bad connection was spot on

TJ and If are similar, but I think you can credit that to the "Jackson sound"



and another one:

Dirty Diana----Black Cat

He made it a hot line, she made it a hot song, lol

bboy87 said:

Eh no! If was way different from Remember the Time choreography
If is more memorable
and just because the setting was outsides doesn't mean it's inspired by Beat it in the slightest bit. I see where you get the connection though. Seeing that both Janet and MJ early music videos were inspired by musicals. Also Smooth Criminal and Alright are no way alike. Just because Janet's rockin' a suit doesn't make it is. Alright is inspired by the Jackson variety show skit I posted up. I love how Janet took that little skit and made a great music video. "The Jackson" sound your talking about is the Janet Jackson sound (Control, RN1814, janet.)

Timmy84 said:

What are you talking about?

midiscover said:

When I say the Jackson sound, I'm talking the vocal arrangements, percussion, and the rhythm and timing


examples:

Jermaine- Do What You Do
Jermaine- Word To The Badd
The Jacksons- Heartbreak Hotel
The Jacksons- The Hurt
Janet- Don't Stand Another Chance
Janet- Nasty
Michael- Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
Michael- Who Is It
3T- Stubborn


You can hear a certain song and spot the sound and personality and tell it's a Jackson track

"Nasty" is proto new jack swing, lol

bboy87 said:

Eh the sound I'm talking about is the Jungle beat sound that Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis and Janet created. And Nasty isn't an example of the Jackson sound ugh! WTF! That's Janet! That whole Control album is her.

"You gotta understand, she lost her brother. She was in a relationship for seven years that's over now.

Jerkins said. The sound is inspired by worldwide influences, from African rhythms to Brazilian and Latin music, and RJ said we can expect features on this album like a Pitbull track that was recorded last week.

Official tracklisting and running time.

6. The Pleasure Principle (DOAD US Edit) 4:13

11. Alright (7" R&B mix with/rap feat. Heavy D) 4:53

13. Black Cat (Video Mix Short Solo Mix) 4:32

Official tracklisting and running time.

I'm a little irked that dance remix versions of "All Nite (Don't Stop)" and "Feedback" are being used. I guess they want to stay loyal to the whole "#1's" concept and include the remixes since they topped the dance charts, but I think they should have stuck with the album versions since they're perfectly danceable!

Oh well, just another reason for new fans to purchase the "Damita Jo" and "Discipline" CD's I guess.

Disc One:

1. What Have You Done For Me Lately (DOAD US Edit) 4:44
2. Nasty (DOAD International Edit) 3:44
3. When I Think Of You 3:55
4. Control (DOAD US Edit) 5:15
5. Let's Wait Awhile (Remix Version) 4:30
6. The Pleasure Principle (DOAD US Edit) 4:13
7. Diamonds [Herb Alpert with Janet Jackson] 4:50
8. Miss You Much 4:28
9. Rhythm Nation (DOAD US Edit) 5:58
10. Escapade 4:44
11. Alright (7" R&B mix with/rap feat. Heavy D) 4:53
12. Come Back To Me (Abandoned Heart Mix) 5:18
13. Black Cat (Video Mix Short Solo Mix) 4:32
14. Love Will Never Do (Without You) 4:32
15. The Best Things In Life Are Free [Luther Vandross and Janet Jackson] 4:36
16. That's The Way Love Goes 4:24

Disc Two:

1. If 4:31
2. Again 3:47
3. Because of Love 4:12
4. Anytime, Anyplace (Jam & Lewis Remix Version) 4:36
5. Scream [Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson] (Clean LP Version) 4:40
6. Runaway 3:34
7. Got 'Til It's Gone [Featuring Q-Tip and Joni Mitchell] 3:41
8. Together Again (Single Edit) 4:22
9. I Get Lonely (TNT Remix Edit Featuring BLACKStreet) 4:16
10. Go Deep (Jam & Lewis Radio Edit) 3:30
11. What's It Gonna Be [Busta Rhymes Featuring Janet] (LP Version Clean) 5:32
12. Doesn't Really Matter (Single Version) 4:55
13. All For You (Video Mix) 4:32
14. Someone To Call My Lover 4:32
15. All Nite (Don't Stop) (Low End Specialists Radio Edit) 3:48
16. Call On Me [with Nelly] 3:29
17. Feedback (Ralphi & Craig Electroshok Radio Edit) 3:46
18. Make Me 3:50

amit1234 said:

Runaway? Boooo

Janet Jackson Trying 'New Things' On Next LP, Rodney Jerkins Says

'I'm still gonna keep the beats hard underneath 'cause she's still a dancer at heart,' producer says.

Oct 22 2009 3:55 PM EDT

By Matt Elias

When we caught up with producer Rodney Jerkins on the VMA red carpet in September, he was already hard at work on Janet Jackson's next studio album. Now the super-producer is opening up a lot more on exactly what fans can expect for Janet's 11th studio album.

"Janet is like my sister now," Jerkins told MTV News on Wednesday (October 21) at his Los Angeles recording studio. "We definitely have this incredible chemistry, this bond — I think we musically connect, crazily. I knew it — it's funny 'cause I predicted this. Five years ago, people used to ask me who I wanted to work with, and I was like, 'Janet Jackson.' And I was so passionate about that because I've always been a fan of her music and what her and Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis have done in the past. And I felt like, knowing she wants to try new things, that I feel I can get it and I can deliver it for her," he said.

DarkChild explained that fans can look forward to an emotionally driven album.

"Since we've been working ... I feel like the studio has become a second home for her because with the whole situation with Michael [Jackson] happening, and I feel like right now, emotionally, she can come here and let all her feelings out. I got her writing again — she has the pen and the pad in her hand."

But it's not just the recent passing of her brother Michael that is fueling the content of Jackson's album. Fans are going to see a side of Janet that they've never seen before, thanks in part to Rodney's persuasion.

"You gotta understand, she lost her brother. She was in a relationship for seven years that's over now. There's things that she told me that I didn't even realize. You know, certain [things] like self-esteem that I didn't even realize that she dealt with for years that you know. ... She's working on her book and she'll deal with that in her book, but also in songs, certain songs we're dealing with that head on. And sometimes it can be a touchy subject for us to even go into, and I kinda had to persuade her, 'Let's just go, let's talk about that.' And she's been doing it, and she's a pro about it."

Although Rodney says you can expect some up-tempo dance tracks on the new album, it won't have the futuristic sound we heard on her last project, 2008's Discipline.

"It's funny, 'cause when we just started the project, she was like, 'I wanna do 10 dance records, all up-tempo to dance. Let's just go dance,' " Jerkins said. The sound is inspired by worldwide influences, from African rhythms to Brazilian and Latin music, and RJ said we can expect features on this album like a Pitbull track that was recorded last week.

"But she hits me today and she says we need to do some mid-tempos as well," Rodney continued. "And I'm glad for that because there's a time when you listen to a record that you wanna mellow out and she always gives us those great smoothed-out mellow records. So now that she's in that zone, it's like 'Yes!' 'cause we can focus on that. But I'm still gonna keep the beats hard underneath 'cause she's still a dancer at heart."

Jenkins and Jackson co-produced her recently released single, "Make Me," which will be included on her greatest-hits compilation Number Ones, due in November. A release date has not been announced for her yet-untitled studio album.

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...anet.jhtml
[Edited 10/22/09 20:43pm]

bboy87 said:

CH!!

Remember the Time and If aren't similar and neither is Smooth Criminal and Alright and neither is Captain EO and Rhythm Nation and neither is Beat it and Nasty

Listen to Tabloid Junkie and If back to back


Janetttt

xlr8r said:

That way they can keep "Design of a Decade" in print. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good.