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Reply #30 posted 10/09/09 11:29am

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still can't find it. oh well, Rolling Stones remasters it is then shrug

Download it!!!
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Reply #31 posted 10/09/09 11:38am

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xlr8r said:

Seems like a companion piece to The World Has Made Me.....

Has the Comfort Woman sound to the slow jams. Not that I dislike that but I do wish for a return to Cookie type sound.


That's what I said. This is what I wrote in another MeShell thread that didn't go anywhere:


"Bought it yesterday. Solid album, but not as spectacular as previous releases. (7 out of 10). That said, I've only listened once all the way through and it could easily grow on me.

Mellow [or should I say laid back] for the most part, and very short (which doesn't bother me). Really like the the first two songs ("Slaughter" and "Tie One On") both of which are pretty mellow. Love track 5, "Mass Transit," which is more upbeat Also liked her take on Ready for the World's "Love Me Down."

To be honest, it completely sounds like leftovers from "The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams" (which I totally loved), good songs that didn't quite make the cut for that album [or were simply left out becuase there was too much material]. I hear a lot of similarities in the music.

Again, solid, but not earth shattering. For an artist who often makes significant changes in direction between albums, she didn't really do so this time."

So, all I'm saying is that I really enjoy it, but it lags, for me, behind some of her other albums.


I agree with this.

Devils Halo is her Amnesiac to The World Has Made..'s Kid A


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Reply #32 posted 10/09/09 2:39pm

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^
I can see that.
And that's def not a bad thing.
cool
Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
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Reply #33 posted 10/10/09 11:47am

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I don't really think it sounds that much like TWHMMTMOMD... that album was very "produced" while the new album sounds much more "bare"... as if it was recorded much more quickly... a lot less political subject matter too...
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Reply #34 posted 10/10/09 12:54pm

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duggalolly said:

I don't really think it sounds that much like TWHMMTMOMD... that album was very "produced" while the new album sounds much more "bare"... as if it was recorded much more quickly... a lot less political subject matter too...

I think so, too. I hear the musical progression, but her last few projects had really thick soundscapes, samples, song movements, digital trickery, etc. This seemed to me considerably more straightforward and uncomplicated. And, like Bitter, just about everything here is about romantic relationships, whereas TWHMMTMOMD was far more... hmm... "existential," if anything.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #35 posted 10/10/09 1:45pm

Cinnie

what?


what's it called? album art? I would google it but i dont even know the name
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Reply #36 posted 10/10/09 2:16pm

SPYZFAN1

errant..Check f.y.e. music. I picked my copy up this morning from them. They had a few left in stock. Or you can check their site.

Can't wait to check this out. When MeShell puts out a new joint it's like X-mas.
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Reply #37 posted 10/10/09 7:09pm

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I haven't gotten the new CD yet but did manage to catch the live show @ Highline Ballroom on 10/6/09. She put on an amazing show.

Some pefrormed song that night(not in order)
Outside Your Door
Lola
Crying in Your Beer
Fool of Me
Dead Nigga Blvd
Dirty Mind(Prince Cover)


Sorry I couldn't remember most of the newer titles.
A fantastic performance and she's was great with the audience.
Conversated with us and joked during little breaks.

clapping

She also closed with Let Me Love You Down!!! Sexy the way she plays it!
[Edited 10/10/09 19:10pm]
When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #38 posted 10/10/09 8:09pm

xlr8r

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itunes labeleed Halo as 'unclassifiable." I had to rename the category lol
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Reply #39 posted 10/11/09 3:52am

Bfunkthe1

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SPYZFAN1 said:

errant..Check f.y.e. music. I picked my copy up this morning from them. They had a few left in stock. Or you can check their site.

Can't wait to check this out. When MeShell puts out a new joint it's like X-mas.

Merry X-mas Bruh...
It's really good. If you like last the 4, it's right up there. Kinda a companion piece to TWHMMTMOMD.
Like xlr8r said,
It's her Amnesiac.
cool
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Reply #40 posted 10/11/09 11:25am

Cinnie

Cinnie said:

what?


what's it called? album art? I would google it but i dont even know the name


duh?
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Reply #41 posted 10/11/09 5:54pm

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such a difficult time tracking this down. ended up getting it at a Best Buy over an hour away and had to drive back there and exchange it for another copy because i was playing it on the way home and it had a scratch on it. mad


anyway.


this is brilliant. it's definitely a companion piece to The World Has Made Me.... i adore it. she has again proven herself to be the greatest soul/funk/r&b(/even rock?) artist of her generation. stunning as always. easily a contender for album of the year. i'm in awe of her.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #42 posted 10/11/09 5:55pm

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Cinnie said:

Cinnie said:

what?


what's it called? album art? I would google it but i dont even know the name


duh?



Devil's Halo
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #43 posted 10/11/09 6:48pm

Cinnie

errant said:

Cinnie said:



duh?



Devil's Halo


Thank ya smile
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Reply #44 posted 10/11/09 7:17pm

Timmy84

Listening to "Devil's Halo" on IMEEM right fuckin' now. cool
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Reply #45 posted 10/11/09 7:24pm

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great album! 2 thumbs up.
* * *

Prince's Classic Finally Expanded
The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/
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Reply #46 posted 10/11/09 7:26pm

Timmy84

great album! 2 thumbs up.
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Reply #47 posted 10/12/09 7:11am

Graycap23

I am a bit surprised that the best song on the cd is a cover song.
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Reply #48 posted 10/12/09 2:30pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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errant said:

such a difficult time tracking this down. ended up getting it at a Best Buy over an hour away and had to drive back there and exchange it for another copy because i was playing it on the way home and it had a scratch on it. mad


anyway.


this is brilliant. it's definitely a companion piece to The World Has Made Me.... i adore it. she has again proven herself to be the greatest soul/funk/r&b(/even rock?) artist of her generation. stunning as always. easily a contender for album of the year. i'm in awe of her.

exclaim touched exclaim
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #49 posted 10/12/09 5:22pm

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Seems like she was trying to channel Sade on a few cuts. Its not bad but not my favorite from Meshell.
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Reply #50 posted 10/12/09 6:43pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

errant said:

such a difficult time tracking this down. ended up getting it at a Best Buy over an hour away and had to drive back there and exchange it for another copy because i was playing it on the way home and it had a scratch on it. mad


anyway.


this is brilliant. it's definitely a companion piece to The World Has Made Me.... i adore it. she has again proven herself to be the greatest soul/funk/r&b(/even rock?) artist of her generation. stunning as always. easily a contender for album of the year. i'm in awe of her.

exclaim touched exclaim



don't even start razz
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #51 posted 10/12/09 6:44pm

Timmy84

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Seems like she was trying to channel Sade on a few cuts. Its not bad but not my favorite from Meshell.


SHE DID! I thought I was the only one who noticed! eek
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Reply #52 posted 10/12/09 6:54pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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errant said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


exclaim touched exclaim



don't even start razz

I guess the template is broken wink
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Reply #53 posted 10/12/09 6:57pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

errant said:




don't even start razz

I guess the template is broken wink



huh?
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #54 posted 10/12/09 7:02pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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errant said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I guess the template is broken wink



huh?

that's what started the bitchfight in the other thread lol Let me just shut my mouth while we are both head, I mean ahead wink
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Reply #55 posted 10/13/09 10:43am

Cinnie

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

errant said:




huh?

that's what started the bitchfight in the other thread lol Let me just shut my mouth while we are both head, I mean ahead wink

confuse da fuck?
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Reply #56 posted 10/13/09 6:06pm

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errant said:

such a difficult time tracking this down. ended up getting it at a Best Buy over an hour away and had to drive back there and exchange it for another copy because i was playing it on the way home and it had a scratch on it. mad


anyway.


this is brilliant. it's definitely a companion piece to The World Has Made Me.... i adore it. she has again proven herself to be the greatest soul/funk/r&b(/even rock?) artist of her generation. stunning as always. easily a contender for album of the year. i'm in awe of her.

nod
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Reply #57 posted 10/14/09 9:57am

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Lammastide said:

After the stream-of-consciousness wash of her past several projects, I first thought the more conventional song structures, thinner aural layers and almost punkish rawness on DEVIL'S HALO made for a sound that was too bare. But after one day, I've totally fallen in love with its accessibility and "cleaner" feel.


This is my initial issue with the album. I expected something more adventurous so I'm having to get acclimated. Nothing conceptually stood out but based on your review there is a lot to think about. I haven't delved into the lyrics yet as I've only listened the one time. I'll continue to explore and I'm sure I'll find the genius in it in time. nod
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Reply #58 posted 10/20/09 5:07pm

justhemusic

These (and many more) reviews of the new record over at http://freemyheart.com/ev...#839106181


"'Hearing' Meshell Ndgeocello Again
by Mark Anthony Neal on October 18, 2009

Part of the initial appeal of Meshell Ndegeocello, one off the first artists signed to Madonna’s Maverick label, was her effortless exoticism. Arriving on the scene in 1993 with Plantation Lullabies and seemingly from a nether post somewhere between Trey Ellis’s “new black aesthetic” and Biggie’s “Big Poppa,” it wasn’t difficult for Ndegeocello, like Dionne Farris or PM Dawn’s Prince Be, to be easily cited as that other-type Negro—whatever that happened to be on any given day. But baby-gurl could pluck it with the best of them—Stanley Clarke, Marcus Miller, Nathan East, Larry Graham, and of course Bootsy—so the regular, round-the-way Negros took notice. Wasn’t a black radio station in the country that wasn’t featuring “Outside Your Door” on their Quiet Storm program in those days. For the white folk not likely to venture down the radio dial, there was that duet with John Cougar Mellencamp, flipping the old Van Morrison classic “Wild Night” into an MTV staple. It was the only whiff a pop chart that Ndegeocello would ever get.

When Ndegeocello returned in 1996 with Peace Beyond Passion, courting controversy with a decidedly innocuous indictment of homophobia—by contemporary standards at least—on “Leviticus: Faggot,” her sound was lean, fierce and muscular, driving originals like “The Way” and her gender-bending cover of Bill Withers’ “Who is He and What is He to You?.” Folk might not have known what to do with the message and even less with the messenger, but it was clear that if you gave the woman more than a few moments, you too would be moving your ass.

With a winning formula in the mix—an old adage really, “free your mind and your ass will follow”—Ndegeocello played against expectation, making the first of several artistic statements. Bitter, her 1999 follow-up to Peace Beyond Passion, wasn’t so much a recording as it was musical brooding session and with it she had my ears and my heart. I have not listened to anything quite the same since, finding disparate passions in the music of Terry Callier, Laura Nyro, Alana Davis, Chocolate Genius, Lizz Wright, Bill Withers (quiet as it’s kept) and a host of others whose most common resonances were in registers far beneath the surface. What has been clear over the last decade is that Ndgeocello herself, has been most comfortable when she trust her ears instead of her body, so that even when she made that last stab at other-chartly and political relevance with Cookie: The Anthropological Mixtape, it was the darker hues of “Jabril” and “Earth” that told on her—and on us for that matter.

Seems as if 2003’s Comfort Woman—an overlooked gem in any era, like Robert Marley’s Kaya—marks the beginning of Ndegeocello’s loss of faith in her ears, though as the primary composer and conductor of Dance of the Infidel (2005) she conjured, with Lalah Hathaway, beauty unrequited on the slow as death cover of “When Did You Leave Heaven.” With Devil’s Halo, her new recording on the Downtown/Mercer Street label, Ndegeocello’s faith in her ears and our ability to 'hear' her is renewed.

While there are still hints of the Emo rock that marked 2007’s The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams, Devil’s Halo settles on a mood somewhere in between The World… and Bitter. The bassist remains lyrically provocative throughout—Ernest Hardy notes this ditty from “Lola:” “a wife’s just a whore with a diamond ring”—but here is wordless quality about Ndegeocello’s vocal performance. Tracks like “Tie One On” and the twangy (in the tradition of Craig Street’s work with Lizz Wright and Cassandra Wilson) “Crying in My Beer,” are simply beautiful in their starkness; the lyrics largely served as adornments. Tellingly, the title track is an instrumental that Ndegeocello wrote when she was a teen growing up in Washington, DC.

Though Ndegeocello has long distanced herself from mainstream contemporary R&B, her most striking artistic statement on Devil Halo comes from the R&B world of the 1980s. Ready for the World’s classic slow drag, “Love You Down” was ripe for a post-auto-tune update, but Ndegeocello gives the song a breathtaking new edge—dreamy and urgent. Ndegeocello tells music journalist John Murph, “Love You Down” is a song that “brings up fond memories. It has a great melody. Also I had a great time trying to put the song through my [artistic] filter. I hope people hear the love in my version.”




"Verse-Chorus-Verse: An Interview with Meshell Ndegeocello by PC Muñoz

The stellar 2003 Dolly Parton tribute album, Just Because I’m a Woman, features a fine batch of rock and country flavored arrangements of Dolly Parton songs performed by Emmylou Harris, Norah Jones, and Melissa Etheridge, amongst others. It’s a great, highly listenable set, but as flavorful as it is, nothing in it quite prepares the listener for Meshell Ndegeocello’s penultimate track—an elastic-funk re-imagination of Parton’s party-ready hit “Two Doors Down”. Beat-centric, atmospheric, and half-rapped, Ndegeocello’s re-working of the Parton classic is not only sly and musically imaginative, it’s also an apt embodiment of Ndegeocello’s overall approach: bold, adventurous, defiantly singular, and funky as hell.

I’m convinced that if Meshell Ndegeocello’s work and persona weren’t so thoroughly infused with a hip-hop spirit, it would be much easier for music-heads to locate her as part of the same continuum as Bob Dylan, Prince, Neil Young, and other quirky pop maverick-geniuses known for bravely and consistently paving their own path in the industry. As an (often) bald, (always) black bi-sexual female bassist who raps as much as she sings, writes deeply and confrontationally about race and sex (amongst other things), and mashes-up genres with every project, Ndegeocello’s mere presence on the scene (let alone the gestalt of her work) presents a taxonomical problem to solve for a large segment of music lovers, and an even trickier problem for those specifically on the lookout for singer-songwriters who may be the rightful heirs to the rock royalty named above. Part of the difficulty for some of these folks, of course, is the fact that killer grooves and textured rhythm parts (which are treasured elements in funk and hip-hop, while sometimes mere arrangement considerations in other genres), no matter how intricately conceived and executed, are still often not considered components of “great songwriting”, although they are, perhaps hypocritically, definitely understood as potential building blocks of “great records”. Hence, someone like Jeff Tweedy, who I like and respect quite a bit, is generally considered to be one of the handful of Gen X songwriters who deserves a place in the pantheon of great, adventurous artists, while Ndegeocello, who has traversed much more diverse ground, including a fairly straightforward guitar-based singer-songwriter album (1999’s gorgeous Bitter), is often in danger of being considered a high-profile cult artist.

I recommend the aforementioned Bitter as a starting point for folks who want to get familiar with Ndegeocello’s music. Soulful, affecting, and beautifully produced by the abundantly gifted Craig Street, it’s a warm introduction to Ndegocello’s music, and a wonderful way to first encounter her enticing and intimate vocal style. It also includes one of her patented unique covers, Jimi Hendrix’s “May This Be Love”. From there, you can have lots of fun jumping around to prior or subsequent releases, each one an adventure.

What was the first song you fell in love with, and what is your current relationship to the piece?
“Soft and Wet” by Prince. It just sounded angelic, the way his vocals were layered, and it made me want to dance. It’s still the song and the album that made me say, “That’s what I’m gonna do.”

Who is your favorite “unsung” artist or songwriter, someone who you feel never gets their due? Talk a little bit about him/her.
Doyle Bramhall II. When he sings a song, his heart is just on the stage. He transports me. He’s an incredible songwriter and a ridiculous guitarist. He’s also just a nice person.

Is there an artist, genre, author, filmmaker, etc. who/which has had a significant impact/influence on you, but that influence can’t be directly heard in your music?
Probably most. Film for sure. I love Fassbinder. I have a lyric on the new record that goes “fear eats the soul”, which is from a title of one of his films.

Do you view songwriting as a calling, a gig, a hobby, other…?
Other. It’s a transmission.

Name one contemporary song that encourages you about the future of songwriting/pop music.
“Love Dog” by TV on the Radio. They give me hope.

On Meshell Ndegocello’s newest release, Devil’s Halo, she continues her tradition of curve-ball covers, this time with an undulating, super-sexy version of “Love You Down”, the ‘80s R&B hit originally performed by Ready for the World. Because the songs she covers can sometimes be nearly unrecognizable in her renderings, it’s tempting to call her arrangements “complete deconstructions”, but I think a more accurate term would be “creative distillations”: she gets to the heart of each piece and retains what’s needed (whether it’s a musical component or not), and proceeds from there to build a new version. In her hands, “Love You Down” is completely transformed.

Ndegeocello was definitely my adopted spiritual patron saint when I was working on my version of Pixies’ “I Bleed” (which featured Oakland’s mighty funk-soul queen, FEMI) for American Laundromat Records’ Pixies tribute album, Dig for Fire. That record featured tracks by the Rosebuds, They Might Be Giants, and other indie-rock stalwarts. Knowing that I would be the only non-indie-rocker on the project, and hearing stories about the ferocity of Pixies fans regarding covers of the group’s material, was a little daunting at first, but I took inspiration in the implicit attitude of Ndegeocello’s Parton cover—- the message I took from it was to wear my stylistic difference loud and proud.

In addition to the “Love You Down” cover, there’s also a bunch of cool new original material on Devil’s Halo. Visit meshell.com for information on the new album, discography, tour dates and more.

—PC Muñoz"
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Reply #59 posted 10/23/09 9:12pm

justhemusic

more reviews and insights...

http://freemyheart.com/ev...#677109281

http://ernesthardy.blogsp...-real.html


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