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Thread started 09/30/09 8:33pm

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Mariah , Madonna flopping

« Thread Started Today at 10:11pm »
Don't underestimate Babs...as her fan base will be out on the weekend buying it.

Fueled by Ramen Punk-Rockers Hold the Edge Over Diva in One-Day Returns

September 30, 2009

Paramore, the Fueled by Ramen punk-rock group whose 360-deal with WMG through Atlantic Records has proven a successful new model, look headed for a #1 debut on next week's HITS Album sales chart, based on one-day sales reports from those retailers who still take our calls.

Brand New Eyes, the third studio album from the band, fronted by lead vocalist Hayley Williams, takes an early lead in the race with a one-day sales total that projects to 180-190k for the week. That gives them the edge over Island/IDJ diva Mariah Carey's Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel, which is now on target for 160-170k. With a question as to how front-loaded those sales for Paramore are, Carey could close the edge if she has a brisk weekend.

Those two are among the five top debuts next week, all registering in six-figures, including Columbia legend Barbra Streisand's Love is the Answer (150-160k), Hollywood rockers Breaking Benjamin (140-150k) and Virgin/EMI's retooled grunge gods Alice in Chains (130-140k).

Columbia Nashville country darling Miranda Lambert's Revolution heads the other newcomers, with a total approaching 65-75k.

WB Material Gal Madonna's Celebration greatest hits album is in the 60-70k range, as is Interscope goth-punks AFI's Crash Love.

Disney's latest Hollywood Records crossover cable TV teen star Selena Gomez & The Scene is looking at first-week sales of 50-60k.

Rock on Roll Hall of Famers Lynyrd Skynyrd's latest, God and Guns, on Roadrunner's Loud and Proud label, looks for an opening week total of 30-40k, same as Williams Street virtual death metal group Dethklok, from Adult Swim's animated Metalocalypse series.

American/Columbia Rick Rubin-produced roots rockers Avett Brothers round out the debuts with 25-30k for their major label bow, I and Love and You.

The market was down 4% vs. last week, down 7% vs. same week last year and still down 14% year to date.
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Reply #1 posted 09/30/09 8:37pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

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Reply #2 posted 09/30/09 8:53pm

midiscover

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Reply #3 posted 09/30/09 8:54pm

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midiscover said:


lol ur so mean
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #4 posted 09/30/09 8:56pm

midiscover

mimi07 said:

midiscover said:


lol ur so mean


I'm just teasing! lol




Sike!
The Mariah album is complete shit!
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Reply #5 posted 09/30/09 9:05pm

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midiscover said:

mimi07 said:


lol ur so mean


I'm just teasing! lol




Sike!
The Mariah album is complete shit!

reall i heard it was good

"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #6 posted 09/30/09 9:06pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

midiscover said:


troll

let's see if janet can sell over 600,000 worldwide with her next album. That's what her last album did. lol
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Reply #7 posted 09/30/09 9:09pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

midiscover said:


troll

let's see if janet can sell over 600,000 worldwide with her next album. That's what her last album did. lol


you FAIL!

Her album is predicted to sell between 160-170K!
Discipline sold 180K it's first week
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Reply #8 posted 09/30/09 9:10pm

midiscover

mimi07 said:

midiscover said:



I'm just teasing! lol




Sike!
The Mariah album is complete shit!

reall i heard it was good



IMO- it's generic, predictable and repetitive. If you're into monotonous beats from The-Dream with bedroom crooning. You'll love it!
[Edited 9/30/09 21:11pm]
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Reply #9 posted 09/30/09 9:27pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

midiscover said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:


troll

let's see if janet can sell over 600,000 worldwide with her next album. That's what her last album did. lol


you FAIL!

Her album is predicted to sell between 160-170K!
Discipline sold 180K it's first week

lol it sold 600,000 worldwide total....ouch lol
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Reply #10 posted 09/30/09 9:30pm

midiscover

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

midiscover said:



you FAIL!

Her album is predicted to sell between 160-170K!
Discipline sold 180K it's first week

lol it sold 600,000 worldwide total....ouch lol


Your statistics are way off! It sold more than that WW!
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Reply #11 posted 09/30/09 9:31pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

midiscover said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:


lol it sold 600,000 worldwide total....ouch lol


Your statistics are way off! It sold more than that WW!


ww?
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Reply #12 posted 09/30/09 9:46pm

midiscover

You ALWAYS fail falloff
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Reply #13 posted 09/30/09 9:55pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

midiscover said:

You ALWAYS fail falloff

so i see you tried to make a racial slur...nice try...you're getting reported.
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Reply #14 posted 09/30/09 9:55pm

midiscover

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

midiscover said:

You ALWAYS fail falloff

so i see you tried to make a racial slur...nice try...you're getting reported.


WW= worldwide, genius rolleyes
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Reply #15 posted 09/30/09 10:33pm

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I thought both would have been on top. Oh well.
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #16 posted 09/30/09 10:44pm

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midiscover said:

mimi07 said:


reall i heard it was good



IMO- it's generic, predictable and repetitive. If you're into monotonous beats from The-Dream with bedroom crooning. You'll love it!
[Edited 9/30/09 21:11pm]

confused
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #17 posted 09/30/09 10:48pm

ernestsewell

RE Madonna: It's a greatest hits package, they never sell that great as a rule. Mariah has a CD of new material that isn't selling too well. THAT is a flop. A GH not making platinum in the first week or two is hardly considered a flop by the status quo.
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Reply #18 posted 09/30/09 10:51pm

midiscover

mimi07 said:

midiscover said:



IMO- it's generic, predictable and repetitive. If you're into monotonous beats from The-Dream with bedroom crooning. You'll love it!
[Edited 9/30/09 21:11pm]

confused


Did you listen to it yet? lol
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Reply #19 posted 10/01/09 8:15pm

suga10

Memoirs is Mariah's worse album till date.

Mariah's Best:

Mariah Carey
Emotions
MusicBox
Daydream
Butterfly

Good Mariah albums

Glitter
Rainbow
Emancipation of Mimi

Average

Charmbraclet
E=MC2


Worst

Memoirs
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Reply #20 posted 10/01/09 8:24pm

Cinnie

shrug I actually bought Mariah and Madonna on the day they were released and saw Barbra's new CD there and didn't buy it. I thought that CD was for an older demographic, but maybe that age category still buys more CDs yet.
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Reply #21 posted 10/01/09 8:47pm

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ernestsewell said:

RE Madonna: It's a greatest hits package, they never sell that great as a rule. Mariah has a CD of new material that isn't selling too well. THAT is a flop. A GH not making platinum in the first week or two is hardly considered a flop by the status quo.



the thing is the Madonna disc worldwide is once again doing well, some stores in the states arent even stocking the double version, and some Best Buys (many) arent stocking the video collection at all. Mariah's world sales are falling album to album, big time, she was way off last album and this one seems to not be doing anything overseas.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #22 posted 10/01/09 8:48pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

lastdecember said:

ernestsewell said:

RE Madonna: It's a greatest hits package, they never sell that great as a rule. Mariah has a CD of new material that isn't selling too well. THAT is a flop. A GH not making platinum in the first week or two is hardly considered a flop by the status quo.



the thing is the Madonna disc worldwide is once again doing well, some stores in the states arent even stocking the double version, and some Best Buys (many) arent stocking the video collection at all. Mariah's world sales are falling album to album, big time, she was way off last album and this one seems to not be doing anything overseas.


i don't care about sales. as long as the album is good that's all i care about.
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Reply #23 posted 10/01/09 8:52pm

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asg said:

« Thread Started Today at 10:11pm »
Don't underestimate Babs...as her fan base will be out on the weekend buying it.

Fueled by Ramen Punk-Rockers Hold the Edge Over Diva in One-Day Returns

September 30, 2009

Paramore, the Fueled by Ramen punk-rock group whose 360-deal with WMG through Atlantic Records has proven a successful new model, look headed for a #1 debut on next week's HITS Album sales chart, based on one-day sales reports from those retailers who still take our calls.

Brand New Eyes, the third studio album from the band, fronted by lead vocalist Hayley Williams, takes an early lead in the race with a one-day sales total that projects to 180-190k for the week. That gives them the edge over Island/IDJ diva Mariah Carey's Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel, which is now on target for 160-170k. With a question as to how front-loaded those sales for Paramore are, Carey could close the edge if she has a brisk weekend.

Those two are among the five top debuts next week, all registering in six-figures, including Columbia legend Barbra Streisand's Love is the Answer (150-160k), Hollywood rockers Breaking Benjamin (140-150k) and Virgin/EMI's retooled grunge gods Alice in Chains (130-140k).

Columbia Nashville country darling Miranda Lambert's Revolution heads the other newcomers, with a total approaching 65-75k.

WB Material Gal Madonna's Celebration greatest hits album is in the 60-70k range, as is Interscope goth-punks AFI's Crash Love.

Disney's latest Hollywood Records crossover cable TV teen star Selena Gomez & The Scene is looking at first-week sales of 50-60k.

Rock on Roll Hall of Famers Lynyrd Skynyrd's latest, God and Guns, on Roadrunner's Loud and Proud label, looks for an opening week total of 30-40k, same as Williams Street virtual death metal group Dethklok, from Adult Swim's animated Metalocalypse series.

American/Columbia Rick Rubin-produced roots rockers Avett Brothers round out the debuts with 25-30k for their major label bow, I and Love and You.

The market was down 4% vs. last week, down 7% vs. same week last year and still down 14% year to date.


Paramore will sell for a week or two and then drop out of sight, the Streisand record will do well pretty steady especially during the holidays, as will Whitney. Madonna may hold through the Holidays, Mariah probably will get lost in this shuffle, it was bad timing with the disc, no strong single, a weak second single, bad timing, it was like two years ago with Seal and Duran Duran's releases.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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