CalhounSq said:

MJ has always been about that weight from what I remember. Most of us are used to seeing him on television and tv makes you look larger than you really are.

CalhounSq said:

Well I'm only 150 lbs and 5'7, lol It depends on how one handles that weight at that height. We're all gonna look different.

daPrettyman said:

I heard he weighed even lesser during the "Thriller" era.

Timmy84 said:

No, but they did find bags of it in the house.. But what is interesting is that alot of it was moldy.

I really think the show would have relaunched his career, not that he ever lost it.. Gosh Timmy I really miss him.. I didn't even know him.. but the intrigue, the talent. I have been watching Michael since the cartoons, and variety show since 1976.

sag10 said:

We all do. But it shows you that you don't know what you miss until it's gone. Least his memory will remain alive for us all.

dag said:

he says it in his book and on his liscense thing from the 2003 arrest, it says 5'10 but whatever

Timmy84 said:

And the very sad part is Americans treated him so badly.. We as humans really need to check ourselves.. Not just Michael but for each other.

sag10 said:

True. But I think in some portions of the world he wasn't treated as well either. Not a lot of people understood him and most didn't want to.

Timmy84 said:

no America was the worse by far.

Timmy84 said:

What I like to know is, how do they test for sperm on a dead person? If this is the fuller autopsy report it backs up what I initially heard not long after he died. The lung problem was probably due to pleurisy a lung condition which MJ himself has mentioned.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

I said some, lol

Timmy84 said:

Thanks for the chit, chat I needed it.

AP Exclusive: Autopsy shocker: Jackson was healthy
By THOMAS WATKINS (AP) – 2 hours ago

LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson's arms were covered with punctures, his face and neck were scarred and he had tattooed eyebrows and lips, but he wasn't the sickly skeleton of a man portrayed by tabloids, according to his autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press.

In fact, the Los Angeles County coroner's report shows Jackson was a fairly healthy 50-year-old before he died of an overdose. His 136 pounds were in the acceptable range for a 5-foot-9 man. His heart was strong with no sign of plaque buildup. And his kidneys and most other major organs were normal.

Still, Jackson had health issues: arthritis in the lower spine and some fingers, and mild plaque buildup in his leg arteries. Most serious was his lungs, which the autopsy report said were chronically inflamed and had reduced capacity that might have left him short of breath.

However, according to the document, the lung condition was not serious enough to be a direct or contributing cause of death.

"His overall health was fine," said Dr. Zeev Kain, chairman of the anesthesiology department at the University of California, Irvine, who reviewed a copy of the autopsy report for the AP. "The results are within normal limits."

Kain was not involved in the autopsy. The full autopsy report has not been released publicly, but the AP obtained a copy.

Jackson died at his rented Los Angeles mansion June 25 after his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, administered the anesthetic propofol and two other sedatives to get the chronic insomniac to sleep, court documents state. Propofol, normally a surgical anesthetic used in operating rooms, acts as a respiratory depressant and requires constant monitoring,

Murray told police he left the room to use the bathroom and phone records show he also made calls for 47 minutes around the time Jackson encountered problems. When Murray realized Jackson was unresponsive, he began frantic efforts to revive him, but Jackson never regained consciousness and was declared dead at the University of California, Los Angeles Medical Center.

The coroner's office announced last month that Jackson's death was a homicide caused by "acute propofol intoxication," with the other sedatives listed as a contributing factor. They said the standard of care for administering propofol was not met and the recommended equipment for patient monitoring, precision dosing and resuscitation was missing.

Murray is the target of what Los Angeles police term a manslaughter investigation. The decision on criminal charges will come from the Los Angeles County district attorney's office. Murray has been interviewed twice by police.

Except for a brief video posted to YouTube, Murray has not spoken publicly since Jackson's death. In the video, he said: "I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail." Murray's attorney, Edward Chernoff, previously has said nothing Murray gave Jackson "should have" killed him.

Jackson was declared dead a little more than two hours after paramedics were called. Evidence of the desperate struggle to save the star were evident on his body. He had chest bruising and cracked ribs from CPR, and a mechanical device known as a balloon pump was inserted into his heart to try to restart it, according to the autopsy report.

Jackson's body was taken by helicopter to the coroner's office where the following morning Chief Medical Examiner Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran and Dr. Christopher Rogers carried out an extensive review and ordered a toxicology screening to look for drugs in his system.

Aside from propofol and the sedatives, the only substances found in his system were the local anesthetic, Lidocaine, sometimes used to numb injection sites and ephedrine, a commonly used resuscitation stimulant.

No other drugs — legal or otherwise — were detected, nor was any alcohol.

Kain said he was surprised that three other sedatives, known as benzodiazepines, were present with propofol. Anesthesiologists sometimes mix one "benzo" with propofol to help put a patient under, but using three increases the danger for the patient.

"People don't mix the benzodiazepines together because they interact with each other and increase the risk of respiratory arrest," Kain said, adding it was likely Jackson first stopped breathing and then suffered cardiac arrest.

The autopsy findings cut off a potential defense for Murray — that Jackson hid serious pre-existing conditions that increased the risk of death from the drugs he willingly took. Even if he did hide a condition such as his weakened lungs, a prosecutor could argue Murray should have detected the condition before administering drugs, said Michael Brennan, a clinical law professor at the University of Southern California who specializes in criminal defense.

"A doctor has some obligation to know what his patient's physical condition is," Brennan said. "The doctor is going to try to substantiate whatever the patient told him ... and not simply rely on a patient's descriptions of his physical condition."

At the time of his death Jackson was preparing for a series of comeback concerts in London. Rehearsals were rigorous and there were questions about whether Jackson would be physically able to hold up.

But aside from his lungs, the autopsy report did not identify any serious physical problems that might have limited Jackson's ability to perform. It also provided details about his physical state from head to toes.

He had a 3/4-inch scar behind his left ear and another apparent scar behind his right ear. He had a scar beside each of his nostrils and another, 4-inch scar on his right shoulder. He had a pair of additional scars about 3-inches long at the base of his neck and smaller scars on his arms and wrist. He also had a small scar near his navel and a 2-inch scar on the right-hand side of his abdomen.

Kain said most of the scars appeared to be from plastic surgery though others, like a scar on the knee, could have been from a medical procedure.

The medical examiner found numerous punctures on both arms and on a knee and ankle. The leg punctures could have been from intravenous therapies not described in the autopsy report, Kain said.

Jackson had several tattoos, all them cosmetic, including dark tattoos in the areas of both eyebrows and under his eyes, and a pink tattoo around his lips.

He was going bald at the front of his head, with his remaining hair described as short and tightly curled. The bald part of his scalp was darkened with what appeared to be a tattoo stretching across the top of his head from ear to ear.

The coroner found depigmentation of his skin around his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm.

whatsgoingon said:

Yeah, I forgot about that @ pleurisy.

I remember his mentioning lupus, and pleurisy..

One thing for sure is that he was in pain.. But no more.

sag10 said:

I just remember America before Michael died. I remember there was a thread on a facebook group about him having those concerts and most of the ppl were saying no thanks...he scares me....he's a pervert....i was a fan in the eighties but not now....better have the tour in Europe, Michael's career in America is HIStory. And now since he died, his shit is all over the place. Shirts, cds, posters, buttons, calenders, magazines in every shop. All over the place. EVERYWHERE. The tv guide channel had MJ specials on 24/7 for over TWO MONTHS. Now can't stop talking about it and what a great person he was . Now they talk about his whole career in America...not just the Thriller bandwagon. Funny how it took him to realize that he was just misunderstood, not a monster. FAKE....FAKE AS HELL.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Well that I agree with. But I think there's a lot of hypocrisy now because before MJ's death, people didn't wanna deal with him, now people are mainly praising him now. Believe me I can see the fake shit around here.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Yes, sadly this is true..

Timmy84 said:

i have been a fan for years....since I was little. I had already seen a bunch of mj music videos/heard a bunch of his songs when I was little. I can't stand ppl when they said they were his biggest fan when they only know two songs of his-beat it, billie jean and seen one music video-thriller.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Yeah that's irritating. And that's the only things they mentioned.

Timmy84 said:

You are wise for a 24 year old, and great taste in Music.. Mary Wells!

sag10 said:

25, lol But thanks.

I got them all beat.. I use to buy Alpha-Bits cereal in 1971 or 1973 because of the Jackson5.

Dang, I have been around a long time.


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Timmy84 said:

black or white was my favorite...actually didn't have specific favorite when i was little. just loved the man.

sag10 said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

For me growing up post-Thriller faves were "Another Part of Me", "Smooth Criminal", "Leave Me Alone" and "Remember the Time" among others.

sag10 said:

I remember these spots. They ran for a while.

Timmy84 said:

It scares me that you consider "Remember The Time" from when you were little. I was in college when it came out.

Timmy84 said:

i loved remember the time when i was little! still love that song. I liked Michael's newer music when I was younger. Now I am a fan of his old and new music.

daPrettyman said:

I personally think that's michael's best dance video.