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AP Exclusive: Autopsy shocker: Jackson was healthy

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...on_autopsy

By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer Thomas Watkins, Associated Press Writer 12 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson's arms were covered with punctures, his face and neck were scarred and he had tattooed eyebrows and lips, but he wasn't the sickly skeleton of a man portrayed by tabloids, according to his autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press.

In fact, the Los Angeles County coroner's report shows Jackson was a fairly healthy 50-year-old before he died of an overdose. His 136 pounds were in the acceptable range for a 5-foot-9 man. His heart was strong with no sign of plaque buildup. And his kidneys and most other major organs were normal.

Still, Jackson had health issues: arthritis in the lower spine and some fingers, and mild plaque buildup in his leg arteries. Most serious was his lungs, which the autopsy report said were chronically inflamed and had reduced capacity that might have left him short of breath.

However, according to the document, the lung condition was not serious enough to be a direct or contributing cause of death.

"His overall health was fine," said Dr. Zeev Kain, chairman of the anesthesiology department at the University of California, Irvine, who reviewed a copy of the autopsy report for the AP. "The results are within normal limits."

Kain was not involved in the autopsy. The full autopsy report has not been released publicly, but the AP obtained a copy.

Jackson died at his rented Los Angeles mansion June 25 after his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, administered the anesthetic propofol and two other sedatives to get the chronic insomniac to sleep, court documents state. Propofol, normally a surgical anesthetic used in operating rooms, acts as a respiratory depressant and requires constant monitoring,

Murray told police he left the room to use the bathroom and phone records show he also made calls for 47 minutes around the time Jackson encountered problems. When Murray realized Jackson was unresponsive, he began frantic efforts to revive him, but Jackson never regained consciousness and was declared dead at the University of California, Los Angeles Medical Center.

The coroner's office announced last month that Jackson's death was a homicide caused by "acute propofol intoxication," with the other sedatives listed as a contributing factor. They said the standard of care for administering propofol was not met and the recommended equipment for patient monitoring, precision dosing and resuscitation was missing.

Murray is the target of what Los Angeles police term a manslaughter investigation. The decision on criminal charges will come from the Los Angeles County district attorney's office. Murray has been interviewed twice by police.

Except for a brief video posted to YouTube, Murray has not spoken publicly since Jackson's death. In the video, he said: "I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail." Murray's attorney, Edward Chernoff, previously has said nothing Murray gave Jackson "should have" killed him.

Jackson was declared dead a little more than two hours after paramedics were called. Evidence of the desperate struggle to save the star were evident on his body. He had chest bruising and cracked ribs from CPR, and a mechanical device known as a balloon pump was inserted into his heart to try to restart it, according to the autopsy report.

Jackson's body was taken by helicopter to the coroner's office where the following morning Chief Medical Examiner Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran and Dr. Christopher Rogers carried out an extensive review and ordered a toxicology screening to look for drugs in his system.

Aside from propofol and the sedatives, the only substances found in his system were the local anesthetic, Lidocaine, sometimes used to numb injection sites and ephedrine, a commonly used resuscitation stimulant.

No other drugs — legal or otherwise — were detected, nor was any alcohol.

Kain said he was surprised that three other sedatives, known as benzodiazepines, were present with propofol. Anesthesiologists sometimes mix one "benzo" with propofol to help put a patient under, but using three increases the danger for the patient.

"People don't mix the benzodiazepines together because they interact with each other and increase the risk of respiratory arrest," Kain said, adding it was likely Jackson first stopped breathing and then suffered cardiac arrest.

The autopsy findings cut off a potential defense for Murray — that Jackson hid serious pre-existing conditions that increased the risk of death from the drugs he willingly took. Even if he did hide a condition such as his weakened lungs, a prosecutor could argue Murray should have detected the condition before administering drugs, said Michael Brennan, a clinical law professor at the University of Southern California who specializes in criminal defense.

"A doctor has some obligation to know what his patient's physical condition is," Brennan said. "The doctor is going to try to substantiate whatever the patient told him ... and not simply rely on a patient's descriptions of his physical condition."

At the time of his death Jackson was preparing for a series of comeback concerts in London. Rehearsals were rigorous and there were questions about whether Jackson would be physically able to hold up.

But aside from his lungs, the autopsy report did not identify any serious physical problems that might have limited Jackson's ability to perform. It also provided details about his physical state from head to toes.

He had a 3/4-inch scar behind his left ear and another apparent scar behind his right ear. He had a scar beside each of his nostrils and another, 4-inch scar on his right shoulder. He had a pair of additional scars about 3-inches long at the base of his neck and smaller scars on his arms and wrist. He also had a small scar near his navel and a 2-inch scar on the right-hand side of his abdomen.

Kain said most of the scars appeared to be from plastic surgery though others, like a scar on the knee, could have been from a medical procedure.

The medical examiner found numerous punctures on both arms and on a knee and ankle. The leg punctures could have been from intravenous therapies not described in the autopsy report, Kain said.

Jackson had several tattoos, all them cosmetic, including dark tattoos in the areas of both eyebrows and under his eyes, and a pink tattoo around his lips.

He was going bald at the front of his head, with his remaining hair described as short and tightly curled. The bald part of his scalp was darkened with what appeared to be a tattoo stretching across the top of his head from ear to ear.

The coroner found depigmentation of his skin around his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm.
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Reply #1 posted 10/01/09 10:11am

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TMI. RIP MJJ.
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Reply #2 posted 10/01/09 10:11am

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Reply #3 posted 10/01/09 10:13am

Timmy84

Damn, they revealed everything, huh?

He was 5'9!? eek
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Reply #4 posted 10/01/09 10:13am

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JackieBlue said:

TMI. RIP MJJ.

where have you been?! mad
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Reply #5 posted 10/01/09 10:14am

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bboy87 said:

JackieBlue said:

TMI. RIP MJJ.

where have you been?! mad


I been around. biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 10/01/09 10:16am

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daPrettyman said:

The coroner found depigmentation of his skin around his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm.


So what the tabloids gonna say now? Huh? lol
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Timmy84 said:

daPrettyman said:

The coroner found depigmentation of his skin around his chest, abdomen, face and arms.

The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm.


So what the tabloids gonna say now? Huh? lol
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I wonder...he bleached shrug
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Reply #8 posted 10/01/09 10:22am

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seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:



So what the tabloids gonna say now? Huh? lol
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I wonder...he bleached shrug


That ain't stopped them before. confused

But I'm still miffed at him being 5'9, really?! eek
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seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:



So what the tabloids gonna say now? Huh? lol
[Edited 10/1/09 10:16am]

I wonder...he bleached shrug

If he had the skin disease that he always stated, then the discoloration would make sense.

Also, it sounds like he may have had sarcoidosis. It is a disease that affects lots of black men (including myself). It is a lung disease, but tends to leave lesions on the skin.
https://www.google.com/he...arcoidosis
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But I'm still miffed at him being 5'9, really?!

How much is that in metric system? Damn, can´t you swith to metrical system for once?
9 stands for inch?
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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But I'm still miffed at him being 5'9, really?!

How much is that in metric system? Damn, can´t you swith to metrical system for once?
9 stands for inch?
[Edited 10/1/09 10:28am]


Yes.
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Reply #12 posted 10/01/09 10:33am

Timmy84

daPrettyman said:

seeingvoices12 said:


I wonder...he bleached shrug

If he had the skin disease that he always stated, then the discoloration would make sense.

Also, it sounds like he may have had sarcoidosis. It is a disease that affects lots of black men (including myself). It is a lung disease, but tends to leave lesions on the skin.
https://www.google.com/he...arcoidosis


If the autopsy is any indication, he had vitiligo AND sarcoidosis. Even with his healthy body, MJ still showed signs that he was suffering and unfortunately too much usage of one sedative was too much for his body to take.
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Timmy84 said:

dag said:


How much is that in metric system? Damn, can´t you swith to metrical system for once?
9 stands for inch?
[Edited 10/1/09 10:28am]


Yes.


Is it 1,74 m? If so, why did it shock you Timmy? YOu thought he was taller or shorter? I knew he was about my height and if I counted that correctly, I was right.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Timmy84 said:



Yes.


Is it 1,74 m? If so, why did it shock you Timmy? YOu thought he was taller or shorter? I knew he was about my height and if I counted that correctly, I was right.


I thought he was 5'11 or 5'10, I think he said 5'10. hmmm
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Reply #15 posted 10/01/09 10:34am

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Yeah I always heard he was 5'10" as well. Are they saying he shrunk?
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Timmy84 said:

dag said:



Is it 1,74 m? If so, why did it shock you Timmy? YOu thought he was taller or shorter? I knew he was about my height and if I counted that correctly, I was right.


I thought he was 5'11 or 5'10, I think he said 5'10. hmmm

I don´t remember him ever speaking about his height? When did he say that?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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dag said:

Timmy84 said:



I thought he was 5'11 or 5'10, I think he said 5'10. hmmm

I don´t remember him ever speaking about his height? When did he say that?

It's very possible that he may have been 5-10 with a wig on his head. Who knows, he may have been 5-9 and a half and he initially said he was 5-10.
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I always remember MJ being 5'9" and being slightly disappointed. lol Marlon 5'7" and Jackie being 5'11".
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Reply #19 posted 10/01/09 10:40am

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dag said:

Timmy84 said:



I thought he was 5'11 or 5'10, I think he said 5'10. hmmm

I don´t remember him ever speaking about his height? When did he say that?


shrug I thought I could faintly remember him saying what his height was in one interview. And his mugshot had his height at 5'11? Or was it 5'10? It didn't say 5'9, lol
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I always remember MJ being 5'9" and being slightly disappointed. lol Marlon 5'7" and Jackie being 5'11".


The Jackson men were short. falloff Wasn't Joe only like 5'5 or something? spit
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Reply #21 posted 10/01/09 10:41am

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I always thought he was taller too. Officially 5'10" but I thought maybe closer to 6'. I mean Janet was still a whole head shorter than him when she was wearing tall heels.
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Timmy84 said:

dag said:


I don´t remember him ever speaking about his height? When did he say that?


shrug I thought I could faintly remember him saying what his height was in one interview. And his mugshot had his height at 5'11? Or was it 5'10? It didn't say 5'9, lol

Oh, yeah, the mugshot. I didn´t realize that. There was his height, but I forgot how much.

If you remember what interview in which he said that, let me know please. I´d like to see it. Was the interview of him as a teen or an adult?
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Timmy84 said:

JackieBlue said:

I always remember MJ being 5'9" and being slightly disappointed. lol Marlon 5'7" and Jackie being 5'11".


The Jackson men were short. falloff Wasn't Joe only like 5'5 or something? spit


5'5"! lol Yeah they're short. They're all under 6 feet. Jermaine might be 6 I can't recall but they were short. Even Randy I was like eek
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I really didn't need to know the sperm info confused
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I really didn't need to know the sperm info confused

I think they included it in the story only to show he was a man and everything was in working order. lol
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dag said:

Timmy84 said:



shrug I thought I could faintly remember him saying what his height was in one interview. And his mugshot had his height at 5'11? Or was it 5'10? It didn't say 5'9, lol

Oh, yeah, the mugshot. I didn´t realize that. There was his height, but I forgot how much.

If you remember what interview in which he said that, let me know please. I´d like to see it. Was the interview of him as a teen or an adult?
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Probably young adult but my mind's sketchy. I'm sure bboy or someone can point out when he was asked about his height. He never told anyone his weight, lol
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I really didn't need to know the sperm info confused

lol yeah. I wanted to ask what they meant by that? It didn´t mean he had sex shortly before his death, did it? lol Sorry for asking such a stupid question, guys.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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I really didn't need to know the sperm info confused


Dude, after all those stories about MJ's balls being affected by Joe's kicks or the rumor that according to his "sperm donors" that he was "sterile", I think the AP did all of us a favor and prove to those who say otherwise that they are LYING! lol
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Timmy84 said:

dag said:


Oh, yeah, the mugshot. I didn´t realize that. There was his height, but I forgot how much.

If you remember what interview in which he said that, let me know please. I´d like to see it. Was the interview of him as a teen or an adult?
[Edited 10/1/09 10:42am]


Probably young adult but my mind's sketchy. I'm sure bboy or someone can point out when he was asked about his height. He never told anyone his weight, lol

OK.
Actually, I thought he weight less. I am pleasantly surprised to hear that his weight was normal.
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