Vendetta1 said:

yes it is, im sorry but i never wanna hear the word masculine mentioned towards a man who rocks stillettos with a ruffled purple blouse and has been known to wear skin tight pants with the ass cut out, or bikini panties with leggings

DesireeNevermind said:

lisa marie wouldn't marry a guy who wouldn't have sex, so i'm assuming they did

They both were like the gay "Odd Couple". Prince was the gay whore that was always into sex while Michael was the gay Miss Priss that was always covering his eyes and saying...."Oh no, I don't discuss such things. I'm a lady".

Mike looked REALLY bad sometimes. The worst I think was when he sang that song for Liz Taylor and he had the bangs and all. Awful.




With that said, both can have varying degrees of, I don't even know what to call it, womanliness, haha.

Mike actually looked pretty normal when he didn't have makeup or overdone wigs. When his lips were that awful crimson red, it was overdone. But many times during his trial he would have sort of normal long hair and little makeup and the eyeglasses and he looked a lot less feminine than normal.

Prince hasn't looked too feminine recently, I don't think. It depends on his outfits. When he has on the pimp suits and fedora, there's nothing really feminine there.

vainandy said:

Prince was The Playboy Channel. Michael was The Disney Channel.

End of.

RudeBoy said:

Sexuality got nothing to do with clothes.

Michael Jackson never dress on leg warmers and high heels, but he always look and acted effiminate.

I can imagine Prince doing Apolonia or playing basketball, I can't imagine MJ doing anything remotly masculine, the guy was weird.

Imago said:

Totally agree with you. I never belive MJ fake masculinism, he can't cut it.

"I thought he was going to explode and a shower of rainbow skittles was gonna fall in the room."

Your funny dude but that is so true!

mimi07 said:

Lisa Marie was pay off to help MJ with his reputation, read her upcoming book.

MJ never looked normal with his videos girlfriends, you know, La Toya, Macaulay Culkin etc.

Prince was good at the yin/yang of masculine and feminine. Even dolled up lyrically he was still a pussy hound. The Napoleon complex is prince by the book.

To me, MIke never acted feminine. It was his shyness that could have made him look like that. He was more childlike than feminine to me.

As for his looks, most of the time, Mike looked masculine.

Prince is far way more feminine than Mike. I mean can you imagine Mike looking the way Prince did in The Most Beautiful Girl video? Mike never went even half the way Prince did. He was always into military and stuff like that. What may have made him look feminine was just the make-up and hair-do at times.
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dag said:

I mean can you imagine Wacko jacko riding a motorcycle with a girl on his back like Prince did in Purple rain?

Debate it's over.

BklynBabe said:

You question Mike, but not Prince. Well, that whole womanizer/pimp affectation can be deceiving as well, lol, which reminds me of a character the actor Leon played in a film called "Cover." Everyone thought Leon's flirtatious/effeminate character just LOVED being romantic and lecherous with beautiful women, but in the end found out he was having secret sexual affairs with men the whole time.

aarontj said:

Yes, in fact I can. On a Harley to be exact:


Insert Naomi Campbell, Iman, or Tyra Banks circa 1991 behind Michael.

The word "effeminate" I'd associate more with Prince. It has to do with mannerisms, whereas Michael had even something of a transgendered thing going on due to his surgeries. However, Michael was taller and most often kept a masculine pose - I'd say that even if his face was moulded to look like a female's during his later years, his body language became more and more masculine. He was a total girl during the Thriller days though, he toughened up later on however. He did seem to act surprisingly "motherly" with his children in the interview though, when I watched him holding that baby in his arms it almost looked like he really would had wanted to breast feed it. But you know, he could still raise his middle finger and look convincing doing it.

Now with Prince... oh dear, did you see how he actually had to correct his pose in the beginning of the recent Tavis Smiley interview? He really can't help it, as soon as he has declared his orthodox religious beliefs to the entire world he will be sporting a corset on an album cover. It's almost as if he'd need to "vent out" every once in a while.

so in short,
Michael Jackson: mixed identity
Prince: queen
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heck, ain't neither one of them the manliest of men, duh.

Prince is very flamboyant, but when I think of Prince, I can see him going home, taking off his heels, running his bubble bath and scratching his balls.

I can't even imagine Michael with balls.... trust, I had the doll....and I looked.
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I'd say it's a tie.The term "masculine" could never be used to describe either of them..lol...

I'm thinking the hormone pills MJ took to keep his voice had something to do with his feminine ways. As an added bonus, it shrunk his "member", and rendered it useless - unless he was dealing with a virgin (i'll leave you to insert male or female here)

But MJ was consistent. He acted the same throughout - once he became what he was.

Prince on the other hand, I could never really figure out. Someone made a reference to him holding the guitar vs without it. Without, straight sissy. The movements, the clothing, the squeals.....If i were doing a 20 to life bid at Folsom, and that sissy side of Prince was there - there'd be a riot to see who got to him first

aarontj said:

Neither of these guys would be considered "masculine" by most people.

Timmy84 said:

dag said:

That's got to be one of Prince's most androgynous videos.He's wearing a ton of make-up and a Liza Minnelli hairdo The 'Lovesexy' era is another time when he was VERY effeminate.

WaterInYourBath said:

x infinity

I really don't know.

The irony of Prince's voice compared with his effeminate flamboyance and style fascinates me.
MJ wasn't as flamboyant as Prince, but his face coupled with his voice and his "softness"...

Man these two were no more "feminine" than:







MJ & Prince were really the R&B/pop rock versions of their hair metal counterparts if ANYTHING.

Timmy84 said:

To be fair Timmy, Marilyn and George were purposely cross dressing, prancing around, being as "open" as they could in a time of Reagan conservatism. George was slowly coming out of the closest when only rumor mills were the bibles of truth in people's sexuality back then. Elton John, Boy George, Pete Burns, Andy Bell and more were all rumor mill fodder. But yet through all that, they were still trying to be themselves, and be openly gay as much as they could. If, for them, that mean cross dressing, being in drag or whatever, then that's just who they were. They were doing it to express their sexuality. Therein lies the difference.

MJ rarely had gay rumors around him back then. He was never feminine other than this voice. He wore pants, no earrings, or heavy make up, he was always talked about and connected with Brooke Shields, Tatum O'Neal, and other women. Whether those were true or not, the fact is he wasn't considered that feminine. I remember rumors about Prince being gay, but that one never stuck w/ me. He had women around him 24/7. How can you be fucking that much tail and still be gay? Prince's straightness was much more believable than MJ's in that regard.

Let's also not forget that George practically came out on national TV during an awards show saying, "America knows a good drag queen when they see one." Find that clip on YouTube. His band members were shocked (in a good way) at his statement. They all knew how risky it still was, yet they also understood how much George was struggling to just reveal who he really was, and that his girly side wasn't an act. It was just who he was. Prince and MJ playing that side is part of the gig. MJ is "tender" and "cries". Prince is "manly enough to wear heels", and still steal your girlfriend.

Pete Burns is a train wreck, but if he's happy....go for it.

ernestsewell said:

Yeah I know that but... Yeah MJ and Prince were definitely androgynous, but it wasn't like these two were the most effeminate. That's all I'm trying to say. They were effeminate and then they weren't. I don't think they could be easily tagged.

ernestsewell said:

Back in the day in my neighborhood Prince AND MJ were both considered major pansies. I got shit for liking both of them for the simple fact that they were considered gay (mind you that this was mid-80s in a VERY conservative Chicago suburb). But Prince I think got a bit more straight cred cause of his guitar playing, his REAL girlfriends always hanging on him (I don't think anyone bought that MJ was actually dating Brooke Sheilds or Tatum O'Neal)...and the fact that he sang about pussy and chicks masturbating all the time. But believe me once Lovesexy came out, Prince might as have well too...cause everyone I knew thought the guy was into cock.

ernestsewell said:

By 1992(?), Pete should have stopped while he was ahead.


At THAT^ point, he was just breast implants & a designer vagina away from being a post-op transgender woman. But sadly, Pete would continue to go too far with the plastic surgeries & the botox shots, being more like THIS:

And Pete went too far w/ botched lips and oozed puss. He sold his catalog, which he owned the masters to, in order to pay to be repaired. Now he's trying to buy it back (if he hasn't already). He's still a guy from the waist down, and plans to stay that way. He never wanted to be a girl w/ a vagina. Frankly, as much $$$ as he spent on his lips, THAT is his new vagina! hahaha