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PrintableTimmy84 said: bboy87 said: That's the case with so many men   and women lotta people like he said thats probably why tatiana liked him so much he kept running away [Edited 9/28/09 10:39am] | |
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dearmother said: I WANNA KNOW WHO GAVE MJ A BONER if anyone
notice how he cant talk about any woman without talking about kids He can. Listen to Glenda tapes. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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SoulAlive said: mimi07 said: yeah i always thought she was biracial, pretty girl i remember reading once she said michael and her were out in town and he asked to borrow her powder and she never got it back
 kiss that cost her her job
She's beautiful!  It's shocking that Michael would marry a cow like Debbie Rowe,when he could have had this beautiful,lovely woman (who admitted that she was in love in with him).The fact he said, he had two tough divorces behind shows to me that he must have loved his wives including Debbie. If he didn´t, the divorces wouldn´t be tough. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dearmother said: WaterInYourBath said: What's wrong with him having crushes on the Princess and Elizabeth? Di had his type of personality, and Elizabeth was a nice and beautiful, big-time movie star. I don't understand what's crazy about that. did elizabeth taylor give mj BONERS come on 
Malnik´s released some new pictures. Here are some of them with the descriptions. 
Michael arriving while blind folded to Publix for his shopping trip surprise 
Al and Michael at Publix after the mask was removed 
Michael looking through the greeting cards at Publix, he had never done that before either. He was so surprised that there were cards for "everything" 
Michael sampling foods at the grocery store 
The beginning of the food fight at Publix 
Michael Sundae...LOL [/b] [Edited 9/28/09 11:31am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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yeah she was gorg in the 50s
he admitted tho he hadnt seen not one of her movies | |
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Love this pic:
He looks so introspective here. | |
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vainandy said: Whether he's cashing in on the tapes or not, I think he showed class and sympathy for not releasing the tapes while Michael Jackson was alive. He could have easily done so and considering the statements that Michael made about his father's abuse, it would have caused major tension within the Jackson family. Michael already said that he was terrified of his father to this very day and if those tapes had come out while he was alive, he would have been petrified to even be around his father. And even if he cut all contact off with his father (which is what he should have done right after he made his own money with "Off The Wall"), then his siblings may have turned against him and possibly his mother too, which he absolutely adored. Whether this man is cashing in or not, it's good that he's releasing these tapes after Michael Jackson's death. Michael isn't alive any more so they can't hurt him now. If anything, they will help the public understand why he became so messed up and people will have more sympathy for him rather than disgust. I know I've become much more sympathetic for him after his death by simply seeing what type of uncaring asshole of a father he had who was trying to promote his new business ventures only days after his son's death. That right there alone helped me to understand Michael better and these tapes really make me feel sorry for him. And since Joe was such an abusive, uncaring, lowdown asshole, he deserves the backlash these tapes will bring to him. Your right about his father. I was one of those people when he was alive who felt his father was getting too much blame for his problems, but when I saw how his father behaved after his death I was shocked, like wise many people. His father's parenting skills has even divided the black community about how they use to raise children back in the day. The worse thing he has said about his father abuse, was stripping nude before beatings, and unfortunately that is not as uncommon as people think. Don't forget Latoya went as far as saying her father molested the girls as well as physically abusing them and she is very close to her family today. | |
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I love this one. Mike in the hat enjoying breakfast.
And this one is so precious. 
Poor Blanket. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: I love this one. Mike in the hat enjoying breakfast.
And this one is so precious.
Poor Blanket. "Daddy, who is this woman? She's gonna eat me!  "
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vainandy said: I think deep down he knew was gay but tried to fight it with every ounce in his body because of what his father and his religion would think. And not to mention what his mother might think who he loved very much. Nobody wants their mother to distance themselves from them. That's why so many people stay in the closet.
I think you've very simply hit the nail on the head. It baffles me that so many people have so much trouble accepting this, putting so much energy behind abating what is so clearly evident, while ignoring the thing that makes the most sense. I think it's because despite how forward thinking they want to consider themselves, or how much progress we are presumed to have made in this society, many people can't shake how they've been conditioned to believe since birth that there is something fundamentally wrong, or immoral, with being gay. So they dismiss ALL the clear indications, throw ALL logic out the window; to convince themselves, while also fighting as if it were their own sexuality on the line to make the case, that Michael was heterosexual.  | |
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PDogz said: vainandy said: I think deep down he knew was gay but tried to fight it with every ounce in his body because of what his father and his religion would think. And not to mention what his mother might think who he loved very much. Nobody wants their mother to distance themselves from them. That's why so many people stay in the closet.
I think you've very simply hit the nail on the head. It baffles me that so many people have so much trouble accepting this, putting so much energy behind abating what is so clearly evident, while ignoring the thing that makes the most sense. I think it's because despite how forward thinking they want to consider themselves, or how much progress we are presumed to have made in this society, many people can't shake how they've been conditioned to believe since birth that there is something fundamentally wrong, or immoral, with being gay. So they dismiss ALL the clear indications, throw ALL logic out the window; to convince themselves, while also fighting as if it were their own sexuality on the line to make the case, that Michael was heterosexual. I´ve seen enough clear indications he was straight. I ain´t fighting with anything. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Timmy84 said: dag said: I love this one. Mike in the hat enjoying breakfast.
And this one is so precious.
Poor Blanket. "Daddy, who is this woman? She's gonna eat me! "
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voyevoda said: But seriously what the fuck is up with all the top motown artist having shitty parents.
Shitty parents aren't limited to top Motown artists (...unfortunately). | |
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dag said: SoulAlive said: She's beautiful! It's shocking that Michael would marry a cow like Debbie Rowe,when he could have had this beautiful,lovely woman (who admitted that she was in love in with him).The fact he said, he had two tough divorces behind shows to me that he must have loved his wives including Debbie. If he didn´t, the divorces wouldn´t be tough. he loved debbie for giving him kids. i don't think he was really attracted to her. he was still flirting with lisa when he was with debbie and he always went on vacations without her "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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dag said: PDogz said: I think you've very simply hit the nail on the head. It baffles me that so many people have so much trouble accepting this, putting so much energy behind abating what is so clearly evident, while ignoring the thing that makes the most sense. I think it's because despite how forward thinking they want to consider themselves, or how much progress we are presumed to have made in this society, many people can't shake how they've been conditioned to believe since birth that there is something fundamentally wrong, or immoral, with being gay. So they dismiss ALL the clear indications, throw ALL logic out the window; to convince themselves, while also fighting as if it were their own sexuality on the line to make the case, that Michael was heterosexual. I´ve seen enough clear indications he was straight. I ain´t fighting with anything. Respectfully, a straight man who had no interest in inserting his penis in ANY vagina. | |
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PDogz said: Respectfully, a straight man who had no interest in inserting his penis in ANY vagina. Untrue. Word is he had a wild sexual relationship with LMP. That's been said by many people that were around, including Bryan Loren, and engineers that worked on the HIStory sessions. They said it was clearly evident. I don't think MJ was gay. I think he had serious trust issues with women, and on some level was very scared of women, but that doesn't make him gay. [Edited 9/28/09 12:17pm] |
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moderator[quote] dag said: dearmother said: did elizabeth taylor give mj BONERS come on
Hell, that picture of her is back from the covered wagon days. I'm sorry honey, but I could jack off a thousand times looking at this picture.... 
But that was Burt back in the 1970s when he was young and sexy. To say that he is someone I would like to get with today in 2009 would be crazy considering that he's much older now and has lost a lot of his looks (although he still looks fairly decent for an older man ).
I still think Michael thought more of Liz as a friend and a mother figure than a sexpot. . . . [Edited 9/28/09 12:22pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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dag said: PDogz said: I think you've very simply hit the nail on the head. It baffles me that so many people have so much trouble accepting this, putting so much energy behind abating what is so clearly evident, while ignoring the thing that makes the most sense. I think it's because despite how forward thinking they want to consider themselves, or how much progress we are presumed to have made in this society, many people can't shake how they've been conditioned to believe since birth that there is something fundamentally wrong, or immoral, with being gay. So they dismiss ALL the clear indications, throw ALL logic out the window; to convince themselves, while also fighting as if it were their own sexuality on the line to make the case, that Michael was heterosexual. I´ve seen enough clear indications he was straight. I ain´t fighting with anything. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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PDogz said: dag said: I´ve seen enough clear indications he was straight. I ain´t fighting with anything. Respectfully, a straight man who had no interest in inserting his penis in ANY vagina. How do you know that? Do you think he´s gonna tell you? Funny how he said he didn´t think being unfaithful was good, but he understood? How come he understood? See, Mike loved this song and Shaggy said he was shocked when Mike told him it would happen to him all the time. He even says to him during the performance "Mike, if yo get caught, this is what you gonna say" ..interesting...
BTW I love that song, too. This has already been posted, but look what Teddy said. 
Don´t underestimate him.
[Edited 9/28/09 12:31pm] [Edited 9/28/09 12:32pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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whatsgoingon said: vainandy said: Whether he's cashing in on the tapes or not, I think he showed class and sympathy for not releasing the tapes while Michael Jackson was alive. He could have easily done so and considering the statements that Michael made about his father's abuse, it would have caused major tension within the Jackson family. Michael already said that he was terrified of his father to this very day and if those tapes had come out while he was alive, he would have been petrified to even be around his father. And even if he cut all contact off with his father (which is what he should have done right after he made his own money with "Off The Wall"), then his siblings may have turned against him and possibly his mother too, which he absolutely adored. Whether this man is cashing in or not, it's good that he's releasing these tapes after Michael Jackson's death. Michael isn't alive any more so they can't hurt him now. If anything, they will help the public understand why he became so messed up and people will have more sympathy for him rather than disgust. I know I've become much more sympathetic for him after his death by simply seeing what type of uncaring asshole of a father he had who was trying to promote his new business ventures only days after his son's death. That right there alone helped me to understand Michael better and these tapes really make me feel sorry for him. And since Joe was such an abusive, uncaring, lowdown asshole, he deserves the backlash these tapes will bring to him. Your right about his father. I was one of those people when he was alive who felt his father was getting too much blame for his problems, but when I saw how his father behaved after his death I was shocked, like wise many people. His father's parenting skills has even divided the black community about how they use to raise children back in the day. The worse thing he has said about his father abuse, was stripping nude before beatings, and unfortunately that is not as uncommon as people think. Don't forget Latoya went as far as saying her father molested the girls as well as physically abusing them and she is very close to her family today. I agree with spanking a child with a belt if they did something to deserve it because if you don't, eventually they will run all over you, spit in your face, and eventually turn the tables and start spanking you with a belt.
But the whippings for missing a dance step was just unacceptable. That's more controlling and fucking with their minds emotionally. And stripping them down out of their clothes, that's something he should have been locked up for. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I agree with spanking a child with a belt if they did something to deserve it because if you don't, eventually they will run all over you, spit in your face, and eventually turn the tables and start spanking you with a belt.
But the whippings for missing a dance step was just unacceptable. That's more controlling and fucking with their minds emotionally. And stripping them down out of their clothes, that's something he should have been locked up for. | |
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I just realized one thing....in the Glenda tapes (that must have been in the late 80¨s, early 90´s), when he speaks about his brothers and father cheating on their wives, he despises it. About ten years later, after two divorces...he understands... [Edited 9/28/09 12:49pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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It's interesting to see Teddy Riley claiming that Michael was gay. No Candy 4 Me | |
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BanishedBrian said: It's interesting to see Teddy Riley claiming that Michael was gay.
What? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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BanishedBrian said: It's interesting to see Teddy Riley claiming that Michael was gay.
where? he said Michael was straight "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: BanishedBrian said: It's interesting to see Teddy Riley claiming that Michael was gay.
where? he said Michael was straight Oh... misread. I thought he meant a "woman lover" as in the gay guy who all the women like to hang out and talk about boys with.  No Candy 4 Me | |
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BanishedBrian said: It's interesting to see Teddy Riley claiming that Michael was gay.  Andy is a four letter word. | |
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BanishedBrian said: bboy87 said: where? he said Michael was straight Oh... misread. I thought he meant a "woman lover" as in the gay guy who all the women like to hang out and talk about boys with. Well, wasn't Liz Taylor one of the original "fag hags" back in the day? Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Whether he's cashing in on the tapes or not, I think he showed class and sympathy for not releasing the tapes while Michael Jackson was alive. He could have easily done so and considering the statements that Michael made about his father's abuse, it would have caused major tension within the Jackson family. Michael already said that he was terrified of his father to this very day and if those tapes had come out while he was alive, he would have been petrified to even be around his father. And even if he cut all contact off with his father (which is what he should have done right after he made his own money with "Off The Wall"), then his siblings may have turned against him and possibly his mother too, which he absolutely adored. Whether this man is cashing in or not, it's good that he's releasing these tapes after Michael Jackson's death. Michael isn't alive any more so they can't hurt him now. If anything, they will help the public understand why he became so messed up and people will have more sympathy for him rather than disgust. I know I've become much more sympathetic for him after his death by simply seeing what type of uncaring asshole of a father he had who was trying to promote his new business ventures only days after his son's death. That right there alone helped me to understand Michael better and these tapes really make me feel sorry for him. And since Joe was such an abusive, uncaring, lowdown asshole, he deserves the backlash these tapes will bring to him. Those tapes also provide a valid point about have a status of "celebrity". Not every human being in the entertainment industry can handle being a celebrity as great as others. | |
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PDogz said: voyevoda said: But seriously what the fuck is up with all the top motown artist having shitty parents.
Shitty parents aren't limited to top Motown artists (...unfortunately). Teena Marie might have been THE only Motown artist with good decent parents. Everyone else?: The Jackson 5 -- father was abusive toward the children and cheated on his wife at least twice. Marvin Gaye -- father was abusive toward the children and had the image of a negative stereotypical gay. Stevie Wonder -- father abandoned the family. Rick James -- father abandoned the family. Diana Ross -- father abandoned the family. Debarge -- father was abusive toward the children and sexually molested his daughter. | |
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