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Reply #60 posted 09/24/09 8:11am

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Chynna and Michelle Phillips React To Mackenzie Phillips Incest Bombshell

September 2009




Former child star Mackenzie Phillips said Wednesday that she maintained a sexual relationship with her father, John Phillips of acclaimed '60s vocal group The Mamas and the Papas, for more than a decade. According to a report in People magazine, Phillips, now 49, was 19 years old when she was raped by her father on the night before her wedding.

"I woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father," she writes in her memoir, "High On Arrival," which was released today.

In an interview that aired on the Oprah Winfrey Show Wednesday, Philips said the relationship became "consensual" and lasted for nearly a decade, until she became pregnant. Philips also told Winfrey that her father, who died in 2001, introduced her to drugs at the age of 11, teaching her how to roll joints and injecting her with cocaine. She has since been in and out of rehab, and was arrested for drug possession in 2008.

Phillips' family -- which includes former stepmother and Mamas and Papas member Michelle Phillips and half-sister Chynna Phillips of the 1990's trio Wilson Phillips -- had mixed reactions to the accusations.

In a conversation with Hollywood Reporter columnist Roger Friedman, Michelle Phillips said, "John was a bad parent, and a drug addict. But [expletive deleted] his daughter? If she thinks it's true, why isn't she with a good psychiatrist on a couch? I think it's unconscionable that Oprah would let her do her show. I have every reason to believe it's untrue. Oprah should be more judicious about who she has on her show."

On the broadcast, Winfrey read a statement from Genevieve Waite, John Phillips' wife at the time of the alleged abuse and Mackenzie's stepmother that said he was "incapable, no matter how drunk or drugged he was, of having such a relationship with his own child."

But Chynna supports her half-sister's version of events, and even claims to have known about the abuse since 1997 after a shocking phone call from Mackenzie.

"She said, 'I don't know why, but I just really felt the need to call you and tell you something that I think you need to know,'" Chynna told Us Weekly. "And she went on to tell me that she had had an incestuous relationship with our dad for about 10 years.

"Somebody could have dropped a piano on my head and I probably wouldn't have felt it," she continued. "But I knew it was true. I mean, who in their right mind would make such a claim if it wasn't true?"

Michelle and John Phillips were half of the Mamas and the Papas, along with Cass Elliott and Denny Doherty. The group's songs included hits like "Calfornia Dreamin'," "Monday Monday," and "I Saw Her Again Last Night." Mackenzie was born before the group formed in 1965.






http://www.billboard.com/...5474.story


I can understand both stepmothers claiming the story is false because think about it, if they were to believe that this really happened then imagine the guilt they would feel for not knowing and putting a stop to it. Very sad.
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Reply #61 posted 09/24/09 8:53am

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Apparently Mick Jagger had sex with MacKenzie Phillips as soon as she was 18.
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Reply #62 posted 09/24/09 9:03am

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It's hard for me to believe that an heroin junkie would have some interest in sex, not to say sex with his daughter, but who knows.
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Reply #63 posted 09/24/09 9:08am

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sextonseven said:

Copycat said:





Chynna and Michelle Phillips React To Mackenzie Phillips Incest Bombshell

September 2009




Former child star Mackenzie Phillips said Wednesday that she maintained a sexual relationship with her father, John Phillips of acclaimed '60s vocal group The Mamas and the Papas, for more than a decade. According to a report in People magazine, Phillips, now 49, was 19 years old when she was raped by her father on the night before her wedding.

"I woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father," she writes in her memoir, "High On Arrival," which was released today.

In an interview that aired on the Oprah Winfrey Show Wednesday, Philips said the relationship became "consensual" and lasted for nearly a decade, until she became pregnant. Philips also told Winfrey that her father, who died in 2001, introduced her to drugs at the age of 11, teaching her how to roll joints and injecting her with cocaine. She has since been in and out of rehab, and was arrested for drug possession in 2008.

Phillips' family -- which includes former stepmother and Mamas and Papas member Michelle Phillips and half-sister Chynna Phillips of the 1990's trio Wilson Phillips -- had mixed reactions to the accusations.

In a conversation with Hollywood Reporter columnist Roger Friedman, Michelle Phillips said, "John was a bad parent, and a drug addict. But [expletive deleted] his daughter? If she thinks it's true, why isn't she with a good psychiatrist on a couch? I think it's unconscionable that Oprah would let her do her show. I have every reason to believe it's untrue. Oprah should be more judicious about who she has on her show."

On the broadcast, Winfrey read a statement from Genevieve Waite, John Phillips' wife at the time of the alleged abuse and Mackenzie's stepmother that said he was "incapable, no matter how drunk or drugged he was, of having such a relationship with his own child."

But Chynna supports her half-sister's version of events, and even claims to have known about the abuse since 1997 after a shocking phone call from Mackenzie.

"She said, 'I don't know why, but I just really felt the need to call you and tell you something that I think you need to know,'" Chynna told Us Weekly. "And she went on to tell me that she had had an incestuous relationship with our dad for about 10 years.

"Somebody could have dropped a piano on my head and I probably wouldn't have felt it," she continued. "But I knew it was true. I mean, who in their right mind would make such a claim if it wasn't true?"

Michelle and John Phillips were half of the Mamas and the Papas, along with Cass Elliott and Denny Doherty. The group's songs included hits like "Calfornia Dreamin'," "Monday Monday," and "I Saw Her Again Last Night." Mackenzie was born before the group formed in 1965.






http://www.billboard.com/...5474.story


I can understand both stepmothers claiming the story is false because think about it, if they were to believe that this really happened then imagine the guilt they would feel for not knowing and putting a stop to it. Very sad.



How sad for them not to at least investigate.

It might taint their images.. Well Michelle Phillips was no such a good person herself.

Also, Mick Jagger has his way with her as well..

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Reply #64 posted 09/24/09 9:12am

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Reply #65 posted 09/24/09 9:30am

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Denial.....a drug addict is capable of anything under the sun.
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Reply #66 posted 09/24/09 9:33am

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Denial.....a drug addict is capable of anything under the sun.



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Reply #67 posted 09/24/09 9:41am

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MuyMalaPersona said:

It's hard for me to believe that an heroin junkie would have some interest in sex, not to say sex with his daughter, but who knows.


You ever been around a heroin junkie between nods and before withdrwal sets in? Fom what I've seen it gives new meaning to the old proverb "the flesh is weak"...just sayin'....
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Reply #68 posted 09/24/09 9:48am

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MuyMalaPersona said:

It's hard for me to believe that an heroin junkie would have some interest in sex, not to say sex with his daughter, but who knows.


You ever been around a heroin junkie between nods and before withdrwal sets in? Fom what I've seen it gives new meaning to the old proverb "the flesh is weak"...just sayin'....


You're right on that. Just wondering. Stories of junkies are always fulled with lies so usually I'm sceptic with this kind of stories. wink
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Reply #69 posted 09/24/09 9:50am

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Mackenzie clearly needs continued therapy and psychiatric treatment. She calls her relationship with her dad consentual incest but then states that "your father is supposed to protect you not fuck you" and goes on to say that she doesn't want people to hate him. WTF? You show us this horrible monster but you don't want him to be hated? It's as if she is protecting him while he rot in his grave. I still can't wrap my head around her fucking her dad from age 18 to 29 and then only (ONLY) ending it when she thought she might be pregnant by him. Plus she fucked him the night before her wedding or some shit? It's just to insane. She also seemed a tad giddy when talking about Jagger nearly forcing himself on her. Oprah gave her this look like hrmph


The whole thing whether embellished or absolutely true is all so horrible. She has been damaged no matter what and it's sad that she couldn't get help sooner and that she needs to write a book to get closure. This stuff should have been addressed while her bastard father was still alive. Kudos to Valerie for coming out and supporting her though. Seems like Val is the only one really. disbelief
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Reply #70 posted 09/24/09 9:54am

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Mackenzie clearly needs continued therapy and psychiatric treatment. She calls her relationship with her dad consentual incest but then states that "your father is supposed to protect you not fuck you" and goes on to say that she doesn't want people to hate him. WTF? You show us this horrible monster but you don't want him to be hated? It's as if she is protecting him while he rot in his grave. I still can't wrap my head around her fucking her dad from age 18 to 29 and then only (ONLY) ending it when she thought she might be pregnant by him. Plus she fucked him the night before her wedding or some shit? It's just to insane. She also seemed a tad giddy when talking about Jagger nearly forcing himself on her. Oprah gave her this look like hrmph


The whole thing whether embellished or absolutely true is all so horrible. She has been damaged no matter what and it's sad that she couldn't get help sooner and that she needs to write a book to get closure. This stuff should have been addressed while her bastard father was still alive. Kudos to Valerie for coming out and supporting her though. Seems like Val is the only one really. disbelief


Agreed to everything you just said nod
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Reply #71 posted 09/24/09 9:57am

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I know....


He just rendered that creepy vibe. confused Even when he was in the Mamas and Papas, still don't see what MICHELLE saw in him. eek

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Michelle started running around with him when she was 15 or 16 so that tells a lot about John
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Reply #72 posted 09/24/09 10:09am

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laurarichardson said:

Timmy84 said:



He just rendered that creepy vibe. confused Even when he was in the Mamas and Papas, still don't see what MICHELLE saw in him. eek

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Michelle started running around with him when she was 15 or 16 so that tells a lot about John



wow...how old was he when he hooked up with her?
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Reply #73 posted 09/24/09 10:38am

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Yeah I heard about it earlier, pretty disgusting to say the very least. If I was Mackenzie, this is one secret I'd take to the grave with me or at least never tell the public about. That is just too much info if you ask me. She really should be in therapy. I don't see what good sharing this kind of thing with the whole world will do. Her father was sick no doubt, but why did Mackenzie continue to sleep him for 10 years until she was almost 30 years old after it happened the first time? I just don't get that. The whole thing is very disturbing.
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But what about other victims of incest that are too afraid to speak out to anyone for help, never mind a psychologist?!?
You have to take in consideration that it isn't easy for someone to admit that they had sexual relations (by rape, by choice, whatever) with a blood relative, especially if it's one of their parents.



thank you for making that point
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Reply #74 posted 09/24/09 10:46am

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MuyMalaPersona said:

Ottensen said:



You ever been around a heroin junkie between nods and before withdrwal sets in? Fom what I've seen it gives new meaning to the old proverb "the flesh is weak"...just sayin'....


You're right on that. Just wondering. Stories of junkies are always fulled with lies so usually I'm sceptic with this kind of stories. wink

Having known many junkies in my life I only WISH even half the nightmares endured with them or that I've seen were lies.....
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Reply #75 posted 09/24/09 3:40pm

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Timmy84 said:



He just rendered that creepy vibe. confused Even when he was in the Mamas and Papas, still don't see what MICHELLE saw in him. eek

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Michelle started running around with him when she was 15 or 16 so that tells a lot about John


oh I forgot about all that eek
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Reply #76 posted 09/24/09 3:41pm

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Ottensen said:

laurarichardson said:


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Michelle started running around with him when she was 15 or 16 so that tells a lot about John


oh I forgot about all that eek


Me too. eek
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Reply #77 posted 09/24/09 6:19pm

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The thing I was thinking was that she was just recently busted with junk; drugs will make a person do anything, she probably needs this book to sell
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Reply #78 posted 09/24/09 7:52pm

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The thing I was thinking was that she was just recently busted with junk; drugs will make a person do anything, she probably needs this book to sell


If that was the case, she needed to write a book right after TV producers fired her the second time from the One Day At A Times series. If my memory is correct, Mackenzie has no other TV or movies roles for a great number of years.
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Reply #79 posted 09/24/09 11:42pm

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ThirdandFinal said:

The thing I was thinking was that she was just recently busted with junk; drugs will make a person do anything, she probably needs this book to sell


If that was the case, she needed to write a book right after TV producers fired her the second time from the One Day At A Times series. If my memory is correct, Mackenzie has no other TV or movies roles for a great number of years.



Or she could create a giant controversy that would equal sales
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Reply #80 posted 09/25/09 1:06am

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TonyVanDam said:



If that was the case, she needed to write a book right after TV producers fired her the second time from the One Day At A Times series. If my memory is correct, Mackenzie has no other TV or movies roles for a great number of years.



Or she could create a giant controversy that would equal sales


You think she's lying, huh?


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Reply #81 posted 09/25/09 6:45am

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He must have had a hell of a dick if she continued sleeping with him willingly. lol
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Reply #82 posted 09/25/09 7:46am

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He must have had a hell of a dick if she continued sleeping with him willingly. lol


There is nothing funny about incest at all. no no no!

Now if we're dissing some rednecks for doing it, THAT's funny! lol
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Reply #83 posted 09/25/09 8:28am

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Like I said..."where the hell was her momma!!" If I had a husband and daughter doing that shit I would kill him and beat her ass before shipping her off to rehab in serbia.
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Reply #84 posted 09/25/09 1:19pm

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Like I said..."where the hell was her momma!!" If I had a husband and daughter doing that shit I would kill him and beat her ass before shipping her off to rehab in serbia.


That's why the moms are saying she's lying. Because if this really happened then the blame is on them for not 'killing him and beating her ass before shipping her off to rehab in serbia'.
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Reply #85 posted 09/25/09 1:42pm

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Ottensen said:

ThirdandFinal said:




Or she could create a giant controversy that would equal sales


You think she's lying, huh?


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Actually I think she's probably telling the truth, but I can see drugs as being the one thing that would make a person throw over themselves and their father
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Reply #86 posted 09/25/09 1:49pm

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sextonseven said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Like I said..."where the hell was her momma!!" If I had a husband and daughter doing that shit I would kill him and beat her ass before shipping her off to rehab in serbia.


That's why the moms are saying she's lying. Because if this really happened then the blame is on them for not 'killing him and beating her ass before shipping her off to rehab in serbia'.



Now see this is strange to me because wouldn't they already share some blame in 1) being married so long to a known druggie/bad father and 2) having their kid/step kid exposed to drugs and thus becoming an addict? Incest aside, they still failed her. It's like they can tolerate anything except the incest when in actuality it is all sad and pathetic. Mackenzie's whole life seems like a wreck. sad
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Reply #87 posted 09/25/09 9:19pm

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Wasn't she on that show, One Dad At A Time.
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Reply #88 posted 09/25/09 9:47pm

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this is terrible, a father having sex and doing drugs with his daughter. damn

i could never talk about this if i were her, it's shameful


So suddenly Micahel Jackson fans don't need a court room to belive when someone rape a child, big contradiction mimi07

Where is the evidence?
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Reply #89 posted 09/25/09 9:56pm

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Mackenzie Phillips: I slept with my father


The bombshell that Mackenzie Phillips will drop on Oprah today? She slept with her father.

In her tell-all book, out today, the actress says that her dad, musician John Phillips of the '60s band the Mamas and the Papas, engaged with her in a long-term incestuous relationship.

http://blogs.usatoday.com...rtainment/



She said she got drunk the night before her wedding and fucked her father. From what I gathered, it was a mistake. Knowing how fucked up on drugs that household was I can see the mistake being made. Where did you get this "long term incestuous relationship" quote from? eek
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