W/ the slow prince news cycle, I'm left w/ this:

I recently heard an interview w/ Jay-Z where he was talking about how music today is becoming talentless, and how artists failing to use live instruments in place of auto-tunes, etc... He sounds just like Prince in 2004. Similarly, he was discussing artistic control of music, etc... Again, just like Prince from 1993-2000.

Jay-Z could actually revive Prince's music to make him relevant again - and I know Jay-Z has said he would love to work with Prince. Jay-Z is married to Beyonce, whom Prince respects and has worked with.

People think there's any shot of this happening? Imagine a Prince produced Jay-Z record, or a Prince album produced by Kanye and Jay-Z. Face it, they make hits that get played in clubs and on the radio - two areas where Prince has been entirely absent.

The only rapper I would like to see Prince work with is NaS, y'all know Jigga and Kanye ain't got shit on NaS.

it will give prince more popularity and airplay thats for sure

Working with anyone current is not going to get much airplay. Airplay is owned by the corporations-if your not affiliated with them, there is no profit to gain to play your music. I also feel as Prince starts to regain his master tapes, the radio stations will have no incentive to play his old music. Thus, isolating Prince music even further.

Jatrig said:

Kanye? Really? Because he has hits?!? Kelly Clarkson has hits too, and I don't want to hear her work with Prince either....

A couple years back, I saw Kanye "live" on an awards show, I hadn't listened to him before but thought the performance was pretty good, so I checked out his first 2 albums... I couldn't find one song on them that I ever wanted to hear again... just crap. No thanks.

If Prince was to work with a Hip Hop artist I'd pick ?Love.

Also, Prince doesn't get played on the radio because he works outside the "system" and therefore the payola players have no reason to promote or support him. So, until the monopoly is broken or until he decides to play the game by their rules again, he won't be given the chance to have the kind of success you seem to be hoping for.
[Edited 9/22/09 9:17am]

Jatrig said:

I admit to having almost ZERO knowledge on Jay-Z ....so I ask this question.
Does Jay-Z play any instruments?

Shorty said:

No - but he uses live instruments (a full band) in his performances; and his beef is that today people are simply using auto-tunes and machines instead of these instruments.

As to the other comment re: radio play -- fair enough. But clubs and D.J.'s aren't playing Prince anymore either....and even prince admits those are legit (eye am the DJ, I can make you jam...)

Jatrig said:

ahh I see. Thanx for the explaination.

Jay-Z is overrated! It's a shame the Busta Rhymes collaboration a few years ago never happened. That would have been great!

Jatrig said:

If he was ever stupid enough to work with either of those jerks, that would be the one and only time I'd refuse to support his work.

Jatrig said:

That's a HORRIBLE idea. Prince can't just produce someone like The Neptunes, or Rodney Jerkins, Jam/Lewis, or whoever. Although they have a "sound", they can still work with an artist's sensibilities and style. Nelson George once said, "When Prince produces a record, you get a Prince production." It's true. Prince has a "sound" as an artist, but as a producer, it's a big production. There's no room for the artist. It'd be like Jay-Z rapping over NewPowerSoul instrumentals. Nothing about that would scream "Jay-Z, produced by Prince". It'd be "Prince - featuring Jay-Z".

Prince doesn't know how to produce someone. He just knows how to have someone sing over his stuff. The best example of that is Mavis Staples. Incredibly talented, and very unique and memorable trademark voice, yet her singing over Prince's songs left a lot to be desired. Sure, it was good to hear songs like "God Is Alive" or "The Undertaker", but come on. It was a "Prince production". The best songs on her first Paisley Park album were the songs NOT written or produced by Prince. The ones that had that old school yet current feel. They were good for a woman who was 50 years old at the time. Not "Jaguar", or "Interesting".

And I can't imagine a collaboration I'd be less interested in than Kayne and anyone. He even ruined "American Boy" with Estelle. Thank God for the "no rap" version.

ernestsewell said:

TRUTH!
Plus, Prince isn't interested in being relevant (mainstream) anymore. He is onlly interested in making music that appeals to himself and a few hard-core fans, so that would take THAT idea off the table real quick.

Fuck Kanye West. He's a gayfish.

PurpleMusiq8 said:

What is that?

ernestsewell said:

He likes fishsticks. Pleeease tell me u get it? LOL.

ernestsewell said:

Audio NSFW!
http://www.southparkstudi...ps/224099/
I haven't seen this episode, will have to watch it now!


I guess Comedy Central ran the episode for two hours straight the day after the VMAs. I LOVE Matt, Trey and Comedy Central!


And here's the full episode: http://www.southparkstudi...des/220762
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i thnk its a good idea.jay-z has talent and not overrated.and for those hating on kanye..he has talent too.he is just an asshole get off the fukin i hate kanye bandwagon.beyonce im sure is one lp away from recording a prince song

Pr1nceQuik said:

After seeing the video (and finding it really boring), I get that it's a South Park reference. Beyond that....eh.

ernestsewell said:

I just finished watching the episode and it's pretty funny. They really skewer Kanye & Carlos Mencia. It's also great satire on creative rights issues.
[Edited 9/22/09 12:01pm]

Serena said:

South Park lost it's funny appeal years ago. After the first 3 or 4 years, it was over.

ernestsewell said:

Well, you can't know if it's funny if you don't watch it. The song video clip is a very minor portion of it and runs only at the end.

Not every episode is hilarious, but they still come up with some gems.

Serena said:

DesireeNevermind said:

It's hilarious to me to see Prince fans saying they wouldn't support other artists because they are "jerks." I can say for certain I love Prince music about as much as anyone, and have respect for the man -- but I think it'd be fair to say Prince is a "jerk." He may not have been as big an a** hole as Kanye w/ some of his outbursts - but he is kinda a jerk - but we excuse it, it's just who he is - he's not outgoing, he does his own thing. I'm sure Kanye does alot himself - he just has issues. Judge them on their talent - which reasonable minds can disagree on -- but not their personality (especially if you're a prince fan).

PurpleMusiq8 said:

FISHSTICKS!

Jay-Z is one of the very few Hip-Hop artist that I'd like to see Prince work with. I think they can come up with something real hot, for real.

I would not be surprised at all if Prince influenced Jay any with this relvelation about real music and real musicians. I sat a couple of rows away from Jay at one of the Musicology shows in NYC back in 2004. I was highly impressed to see him there and he looked like he was studying Prince, so based on what I saw, I don't think Jatriq is off base any with his assessment.

jay-z is jealouse of prince...he could never give the type of performance
prince did with his wife...

he probably felt incapable...lol

I would like to see prince and jay on something,,...

Jatrig said:

I judge on talent and personality and with that said...Prince has more talent and a better personality. He's not sampling, relying on machines, acting a fool in public, claiming to be the best artist etc.

^^^^
i'm wit U desiree

DesireeNevermind said:

I'm with you on that one.

ewwww no way shape or form would i want to see P workin with JayZ
I don't see that pair forming