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scriptgirl

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How come Motown did not release a lot of disco music?

Is it me or did Motown not release a great deal of disco tracks back in the day? Does anyone know why?
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Reply #1 posted 09/19/09 3:21pm

SoulAlive

I think the disco phenomenon caught Motown by surprise.But they did release a few of the biggest disco hits of the era:

"Don't Leave Me This Way" by Thelma Houston
"Heaven Must Have Sent You" by Bonnie Pointer
"The Boss" by Diana Ross
"Love Hangover" by Diana Ross

The 1978 disco movie 'Thank God It's Friday' is actually a Motown/Casablanca joint effort.
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Reply #2 posted 09/19/09 3:22pm

Timmy84

Motown had no idea disco became this phenomenon, lol

After Donna Summer broke through, Motown begged Diana and Marvin to do disco songs. lol

But yeah Motown did produce some of disco's biggest hits.
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Reply #3 posted 09/19/09 3:55pm

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Bonnie Pointer of the Pointer Sisters?
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Reply #4 posted 09/19/09 3:59pm

Timmy84

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Bonnie Pointer of the Pointer Sisters?


Yep.
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Reply #5 posted 09/19/09 4:28pm

SoulAlive

scriptgirl said:

Bonnie Pointer of the Pointer Sisters?


nod She recorded two Motown cover songs---"Heaven Must Have Sent You" and "Sugar Pie Honey Bunch (I Can't Help Myself)"---in a disco style.These songs are more disco than anything else on the label at that time.
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Reply #6 posted 09/19/09 4:32pm

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But the Pointer Sisters weren't on Motown, right?
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Reply #7 posted 09/19/09 5:00pm

Timmy84

scriptgirl said:

But the Pointer Sisters weren't on Motown, right?


Yeah in 1990, lol
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Reply #8 posted 09/20/09 9:16am

SoulAlive

Bonnie left the group in 1978 and signed to Motown as a solo act.
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Reply #9 posted 09/20/09 9:16am

SoulAlive

Bonnie left the group in 1978 and signed to Motown as a solo act.
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Reply #10 posted 09/20/09 9:33am

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SoulAlive said:

I think the disco phenomenon caught Motown by surprise.But they did release a few of the biggest disco hits of the era:

"Don't Leave Me This Way" by Thelma Houston
"Heaven Must Have Sent You" by Bonnie Pointer
"The Boss" by Diana Ross
"Love Hangover" by Diana Ross

The 1978 disco movie 'Thank God It's Friday' is actually a Motown/Casablanca joint effort.


And also TaTa Vega's "Just Keep Thinking About You".
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Reply #11 posted 09/20/09 9:34am

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SoulAlive said:

scriptgirl said:

Bonnie Pointer of the Pointer Sisters?


nod She recorded two Motown cover songs---"Heaven Must Have Sent You" and "Sugar Pie Honey Bunch (I Can't Help Myself)"---in a disco style.These songs are more disco than anything else on the label at that time.


My favorite on her album is "Ah Shoot" which is more of a funk tune.
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Reply #12 posted 09/20/09 4:06pm

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SoulAlive said:

I think the disco phenomenon caught Motown by surprise.But they did release a few of the biggest disco hits of the era:

"Don't Leave Me This Way" by Thelma Houston
"Heaven Must Have Sent You" by Bonnie Pointer
"The Boss" by Diana Ross
"Love Hangover" by Diana Ross

The 1978 disco movie 'Thank God It's Friday' is actually a Motown/Casablanca joint effort.


What about High Inergy? Wasn't there first album release at the tail-end of the disco era?
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Reply #13 posted 09/21/09 3:02am

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SoulAlive said:

I think the disco phenomenon caught Motown by surprise.But they did release a few of the biggest disco hits of the era:

"Don't Leave Me This Way" by Thelma Houston
"Heaven Must Have Sent You" by Bonnie Pointer
"The Boss" by Diana Ross
"Love Hangover" by Diana Ross

The 1978 disco movie 'Thank God It's Friday' is actually a Motown/Casablanca joint effort.


Not to mention Marvin's "Got To Give It Up",,,a song he hated to sing lol
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Reply #14 posted 09/21/09 3:10am

SoulAlive

TonyVanDam said:

SoulAlive said:

I think the disco phenomenon caught Motown by surprise.But they did release a few of the biggest disco hits of the era:

"Don't Leave Me This Way" by Thelma Houston
"Heaven Must Have Sent You" by Bonnie Pointer
"The Boss" by Diana Ross
"Love Hangover" by Diana Ross

The 1978 disco movie 'Thank God It's Friday' is actually a Motown/Casablanca joint effort.


What about High Inergy? Wasn't there first album release at the tail-end of the disco era?


Oh yeah,I forgot about them.By 1979,they were definitely doing disco.
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Reply #15 posted 09/21/09 3:18am

SoulAlive

MOTOWN disco classic of the day: "Heaven Must Have Sent You" by Bonnie Pointer (1979)
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Reply #16 posted 09/21/09 3:34am

SoulAlive

Motown was often clumsy when it came to disco.A perfect example is the 1978 Diana Ross track "Lovin',Livin'Givin" which appeared on the 'Thank God It's Friday' movie soundtrack.This song is a poor imitation of the superior tracks that Donna Summer and her producers (Giorgio Moroder and Pete Bellotte) were doing at the time.
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Reply #17 posted 09/22/09 11:16am

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Motown did have some excellent disco cuts, but the disco era is when Motown started slipping as Berry Gordy was more interested in movies than music. He wasn't really paying attention, and their promotions were not always on point.

The Miracles, Dynamic Superiors, Jermaine Jackson, Carl Bean, Tata Vega, Marvin Gaye, Bottom and Company, Finished Touch, Flight, Switch, J5, Diana, Teena Marie, Rick James, Dazz Band, and others all recorded disco.

There was a 2CD set called Motown Disco that I think is out of print now.
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Reply #18 posted 09/22/09 11:23am

Timmy84

SoulAlive said:

Motown was often clumsy when it came to disco.A perfect example is the 1978 Diana Ross track "Lovin',Livin'Givin" which appeared on the 'Thank God It's Friday' movie soundtrack.This song is a poor imitation of the superior tracks that Donna Summer and her producers (Giorgio Moroder and Pete Bellotte) were doing at the time.


Yeah her version of "What You Gave Me" wasn't so cool either, it was like they were trying to find something that stuck for Diana. It wasn't until "The Boss" and "Diana" that she found her footing in disco/dance music.
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Reply #19 posted 09/23/09 2:04am

SoulAlive

Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:

Motown was often clumsy when it came to disco.A perfect example is the 1978 Diana Ross track "Lovin',Livin'Givin" which appeared on the 'Thank God It's Friday' movie soundtrack.This song is a poor imitation of the superior tracks that Donna Summer and her producers (Giorgio Moroder and Pete Bellotte) were doing at the time.


Yeah her version of "What You Gave Me" wasn't so cool either, it was like they were trying to find something that stuck for Diana. It wasn't until "The Boss" and "Diana" that she found her footing in disco/dance music.


Yeah,Motown didn't know how to promote and market Diana as a "disco diva".She had a massive disco hit in 1976,"Love Hangover",but they didn't know how to build upon that success.After that song,they should have paired her up with a producer like Freddie Perren,who was churning out one disco classic after another.Or Van McCoy would have been an ideal producer for her.It wasn't until 1979 that Diana finally had another excellent disco hit,"The Boss" and from what I understand,she chose to work with Ashford and Simpson against Motown's wishes.Her next album,produced by Chic,really took it to another level.Ironically,with that album,she was enjoying major disco success at the same time that Donna Summer's popularity was dwindling ('Diana' was a much bigger success than Donna's 1980 album 'The Wanderer').
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Reply #20 posted 09/23/09 4:19am

SoulAlive

FunkyGraf said:

Motown did have some excellent disco cuts, but the disco era is when Motown started slipping as Berry Gordy was more interested in movies than music. He wasn't really paying attention, and their promotions were not always on point.

The Miracles, Dynamic Superiors, Jermaine Jackson, Carl Bean, Tata Vega, Marvin Gaye, Bottom and Company, Finished Touch, Flight, Switch, J5, Diana, Teena Marie, Rick James, Dazz Band, and others all recorded disco.

There was a 2CD set called Motown Disco that I think is out of print now.


nod And in 1979,at the height of the disco era,they also released this vinyl 12" box set:

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Reply #21 posted 09/23/09 5:36am

SoulAlive

Timmy84 said:

After Donna Summer broke through, Motown begged Diana and Marvin to do disco songs. lol


Interestingly,many people think that Diana's song "Love Hangover" was directly inspired by Donna's "Love To Love You Baby",which was a big hit a few months earlier.But in late 1976,Donna came out with "Spring Affair",a song that some people think sounds similiar to "Love Hangover" (compare the basslines),lol.

As for Marvin...he attempted a disco album,'Love Man',in 1979 but it was shelved.

Amazingly,Stevie Wonder never jumped on the disco bandwagon.
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Reply #22 posted 09/23/09 10:09am

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SoulAlive said:



Amazingly,Stevie Wonder never jumped on the disco bandwagon.


you mean THANKFULLY!

lol
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Reply #23 posted 09/23/09 10:22am

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What about the Disc-O-Tech record series?
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Reply #24 posted 09/24/09 1:41am

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They did a lot of earlier disco cuts too, what about

Dancing Machine (Jackson 5 - 1974)
Keep on Trucking (Eddie Kendricks 1973) great proto disco
Boogie Down (Eddie Kendricks 1974)
I want you (Marvin Gaye 1976) has a disco feel
Got to give it up part 1 and 2 (Marvin Gaye 1977) about as disco as he got
You can't turn me off in the middle of turning me on (High Inergy 1977)
Movin Violation - (Jackson 5 1975)

And yes the Thelma Houston joint - Don't leave me this way, was a colossal hit in 1976/77.
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