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Thread started 09/18/09 9:47am

rainman1985

Let's talk DMX!

Am I the only who wishes he'd blown up a few years earlier? I think he should have done a full on Horror-Core album ala Gravediggaz. Unreleased freestyles (often re-interpretted into weaker songs on his later albums) are downright scary. I can't imagine 2pac, Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z... etc beating him in a battle. He doesn't get enough credit for his awesome flows, yeah the growling and "WHAT!"'s got a bit repetitive and his attempt at Party anthems can't compare to Pac or Bigger but when it comes to passionate delivery and interesting, energetic flows he's hard to top.
I wish he wasn't so closely associated with Swizz Beatz, even though they've made a few hits I feel Swizz's electro-club brand of Hip-Hop didn't quite fit X as well as say a Jay-Z type.
Honestly can you think of collabo he's done where he was outshone by another MC?
All his albums I personally feel suffered from average production, Irv Gotti and Swizz aint no master composers, X was the strength behind his huge sales, not hot producers.
Fave Songs:
Why We Die (Busta Rhymes)
It's Murda (Ja Rule)
Homeboyz (2pac's Rap Phenomenom Mixtape)
24 HRS to Live (Ma$e)
Where's the Hood At?
X Gon Give it to Ya
Some X Shit
Stop Being Greedy
Niggaz Done Started Something (I wish this was a solo song, I only ever listen to his verse)
East Coast Freestyle
Ghetto Life Freestyle
Damien
Who We Be (The RMX with Pac's Baby Don't Cry Chorus)
Shot Down

What is the deal with these two new albums? They keep getting pushed back.
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Reply #1 posted 09/18/09 10:39am

kenlacam

I am a fan of DMX.He is definitely ahead of his time, it is just a sad shame that he has allowed drugs to overtake his rap career. I wish he would get his crap together, because he has the potential for being a great star.
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Reply #2 posted 09/18/09 10:43am

Timmy84

DMX was talented and that's my cousin's favorite rapper, but yeah it's sad what's happened to him. I hope he gets his mind right.
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Reply #3 posted 09/18/09 4:35pm

PDogz

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With all due respect to his fans, I wouldn't miss DMX if he never recorded another track.
"There's Nothing That The Proper Attitude Won't Render Funkable!"

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Reply #4 posted 09/18/09 5:58pm

kitbradley

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I used to be really into him, too. Have all of his CDs.
"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates
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Reply #5 posted 09/18/09 6:07pm

rainman1985

I remember when Ja Rule called him "Crack Man X" after X started dissing him. It was funny. I always thought X was a hater when it came to Ja.
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Reply #6 posted 09/18/09 6:22pm

phunkdaddy

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rainman1985 said:

I remember when Ja Rule called him "Crack Man X" after X started dissing him. It was funny. I always thought X was a hater when it came to Ja.


lol
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #7 posted 09/18/09 6:33pm

Harlepolis

rainman1985 said:

I remember when Ja Rule called him "Crack Man X" after X started dissing him. It was funny. I always thought X was a hater when it came to Ja.


Everybody is a hater when it comes to the lil' cookie monster,,,,me on top of them bored2

As for X, I hope he battles those demons,,,and I pray for his kid & wife. That woman of his is a ROCK, I really admire her for gluing all the pieces toghether through out all this madness.
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Reply #8 posted 09/18/09 6:46pm

phunkdaddy

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PDogz said:

With all due respect to his fans, I wouldn't miss DMX if he never recorded another track.


I feel ya.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #9 posted 09/18/09 6:56pm

Timmy84

Harlepolis said:

rainman1985 said:

I remember when Ja Rule called him "Crack Man X" after X started dissing him. It was funny. I always thought X was a hater when it came to Ja.


Everybody is a hater when it comes to the lil' cookie monster,,,,me on top of them bored2

As for X, I hope he battles those demons,,,and I pray for his kid & wife. That woman of his is a ROCK, I really admire her for gluing all the pieces toghether through out all this madness.


I agree with that. I wish her well too as well as DMX and their children. And Ja? I only got this to say:

"C IS FOR COOKIE!" bored2 lol
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Reply #10 posted 09/18/09 7:08pm

rainman1985

As far as his wife goes, last I heard he'd left her for a girl in her early 20's... I felt sorry for her.
I don't know much about drug problems and certainly didn't know they were still a issue. Him pretended to be a federal agent was funny for the "WTF were you thinking?" aspect.
The funniest thing anyone ever said bout Ja was Busta in the Murder Inc Diss over the Hail Mary track.
"Can't help but think about the game and
WHAT WOULD IT BE WITHOUT YOUuUuUuU" In Ja's cookie monster voice.

Personally I don't mind Ja, not a huge fan of his party songs but "Daddy's Little Baby", both "Race Against Time"'s, "Fuck You", "Last of the Mohicans" and "Only Begotten Son" are good tracks. If he's a Pac imitator then so is 3/4 of the rap AND R&B cats that have come out since '97. That Blood in My Eye album was pathetic though, "The Wrap" and the new version of "It's Murda" were the only tracks I liked and his replies to 50's disses were weak.
[Edited 9/18/09 19:11pm]
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Reply #11 posted 09/18/09 7:09pm

phunkdaddy

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If Ja is the cookie monster,then what is DMX cookie monster
Sr. lol
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #12 posted 09/18/09 7:10pm

rainman1985

Does anyone think he's been outshone by another MC on a collabo?
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Reply #13 posted 09/18/09 7:11pm

BklynBabe

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crack is wack but cocaine is a hell of a drug... disbelief

That woman of his is a ROCK,

unfortunately she's a CRACK ROCK!

look at all the folk that have been laid low by the almighty cocaina
Whitney Houston
Lindsay Lohan
River Phoenix
Baatin
Bobby Brown
D'Angelo
Jim Morrison
Rick James

I can't even go into all the folk that have been laid low by the blow

And then you have the weedies:
Redman
Method Man
Snoop

And then you get your highfaluting druggings with Oxy Codone, Ambien, whatever the hell that shit Anna Nicole was on, and MJ taking it to the next level-propofol anesthesia.

Well anyway I like DMX with Party Up and Come back In One Piece and that's pretty much enough for me. He had the skills to do the damn thing but oh well.
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Reply #14 posted 09/18/09 7:11pm

Timmy84

phunkdaddy said:

If Ja is the cookie monster,then what is DMX cookie monster
Sr. lol



[Edited 9/18/09 19:11pm]
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Reply #15 posted 09/18/09 7:17pm

rainman1985

YES! D is Oscar the Grouch! Good call. Someone should get a pic of Oscar and past X's mug over the top and attribute a quote to it... just sayin.
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Reply #16 posted 09/18/09 7:26pm

Timmy84

rainman1985 said:

YES! D is Oscar the Grouch! Good call. Someone should get a pic of Oscar and past X's mug over the top and attribute a quote to it... just sayin.


Oscar or Rowlf, lol
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Reply #17 posted 09/18/09 7:32pm

LittleBLUECorv
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There was a supposedly super group in the works with the three hottest rappers under Def Jam circa 1999. Jay-Z from Roc-a-Fella, Ja Rule from Murder, Inc. and DMX from Ruff Ryders.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Reply #18 posted 09/18/09 7:44pm

Timmy84

LittleBLUECorvette said:

There was a supposedly super group in the works with the three hottest rappers under Def Jam circa 1999. Jay-Z from Roc-a-Fella, Ja Rule from Murder, Inc. and DMX from Ruff Ryders.


I heard about that too.
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Reply #19 posted 09/18/09 7:46pm

rainman1985

LittleBLUECorvette said:

There was a supposedly super group in the works with the three hottest rappers under Def Jam circa 1999. Jay-Z from Roc-a-Fella, Ja Rule from Murder, Inc. and DMX from Ruff Ryders.

This is quite well known, they would have been called Murda Inc. and Irv Gotti would have overseen the album. From what I've heard Jay was the one to pull the plug but X started dissing Ja around this time too. I think the first "Irv Gotti Presents" album was originally gonna be that project. I think it would have been great.
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Reply #20 posted 09/18/09 7:52pm

LittleBLUECorv
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rainman1985 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

There was a supposedly super group in the works with the three hottest rappers under Def Jam circa 1999. Jay-Z from Roc-a-Fella, Ja Rule from Murder, Inc. and DMX from Ruff Ryders.

This is quite well known, they would have been called Murda Inc. and Irv Gotti would have overseen the album. From what I've heard Jay was the one to pull the plug but X started dissing Ja around this time too. I think the first "Irv Gotti Presents" album was originally gonna be that project. I think it would have been great.

I thought they were gonna be called "Tha Murderers"?
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Reply #21 posted 09/18/09 7:55pm

Timmy84

LittleBLUECorvette said:

rainman1985 said:


This is quite well known, they would have been called Murda Inc. and Irv Gotti would have overseen the album. From what I've heard Jay was the one to pull the plug but X started dissing Ja around this time too. I think the first "Irv Gotti Presents" album was originally gonna be that project. I think it would have been great.

I thought they were gonna be called "Tha Murderers"?


Yeah that's what they were gonna be called at first. When Jay dropped out and X started beefing with Ja, that's when Irv and Ja renamed it "Murder Inc."
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Reply #22 posted 09/18/09 11:06pm

TonyVanDam

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Timmy84 said:

DMX was talented and that's my cousin's favorite rapper, but yeah it's sad what's happened to him. I hope he gets his mind right.


Had DMX sold out the dark side of Freemasonry by allowing Jay-Z to lead him, DMX would still be in the mainstream.

If I say nothing else, DMX did right by not playing along.
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Reply #23 posted 09/18/09 11:18pm

rainman1985

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

DMX was talented and that's my cousin's favorite rapper, but yeah it's sad what's happened to him. I hope he gets his mind right.


Had DMX sold out the dark side of Freemasonry by allowing Jay-Z to lead him, DMX would still be in the mainstream.

If I say nothing else, DMX did right by not playing along.

eek I thought Masonary was a WASP thing...
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Reply #24 posted 09/18/09 11:21pm

rainman1985

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


I thought they were gonna be called "Tha Murderers"?


Yeah that's what they were gonna be called at first. When Jay dropped out and X started beefing with Ja, that's when Irv and Ja renamed it "Murder Inc."


But the CD was called the Murderers and in the song Murda Inc they repeatedly say Murder Incorporated...
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Reply #25 posted 09/18/09 11:32pm

TonyVanDam

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rainman1985 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Had DMX sold out the dark side of Freemasonry by allowing Jay-Z to lead him, DMX would still be in the mainstream.

If I say nothing else, DMX did right by not playing along.

eek I thought Masonary was a WASP thing...


Prince Hall masons are all black men. But in later years some white and black masons have made efforts in doing business & social gatherings with each other (except for those in Mississippi, Alabama, & Georgia).

Many masons are good people. But a select few are elitists and have absolute no remorse about working directly with The Power That Be to get ahead in life.
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Reply #26 posted 09/18/09 11:38pm

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

rainman1985 said:


eek I thought Masonary was a WASP thing...


Prince Hall masons are all black men. But in later years some white and black masons have made efforts in doing business & social gatherings with each other (except for those in Mississippi, Alabama, & Georgia).

Many masons are good people. But a select few are elitists and have absolute no remorse about working directly with The Power That Be to get ahead in life.


Man, didn't you tell me Mike was in that shit? eek
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Reply #27 posted 09/19/09 2:08am

TonyVanDam

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Prince Hall masons are all black men. But in later years some white and black masons have made efforts in doing business & social gatherings with each other (except for those in Mississippi, Alabama, & Georgia).

Many masons are good people. But a select few are elitists and have absolute no remorse about working directly with The Power That Be to get ahead in life.


Man, didn't you tell me Mike was in that shit? eek


MJJ was NEVER a Freemason and neither were any of his brothers.

But there was a time during the 80's that Michael was working closely with people that were definitely elitists within the music industry. But as soon as Michael started to back off a bit, that when all of his legal trouble began.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Ji2HaJf1VI

http://www.youtube.com/wa...W43Mig1LYE
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Reply #28 posted 09/19/09 2:12am

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:



Man, didn't you tell me Mike was in that shit? eek


MJJ was NEVER a Freemason and neither were any of his brothers.

But there was a time during the 80's that Michael was working closely with people that were definitely elitists within the music industry. But as soon as Michael started to back off a bit, that when all of his legal trouble began.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Ji2HaJf1VI

http://www.youtube.com/wa...W43Mig1LYE


OIC.
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Reply #29 posted 09/20/09 8:26pm

DirtyChris

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"Slippin'"

"Keep Your Shit The Hardest"

"Coming From" (w/Mary J. Blige)

"Sincerity" (w/Mary J. Blige & Nas)

that song from The Murderers album
(that samples the Halloween/Michael Myers theme)

It's All Good

and a few others are all-time favorites

I'ma huge fan of this album:

if you can't tell lol
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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