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Thread started 09/12/09 7:05am

Nvncible1

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Speeding up vocals to make artists sound younger?

hmmmmm?

Anyone else notice this?


especially radio over does this.


noticed when you hear the artist sing live the songs are pitched down.


They been dopin this since the 50s

and NO chipmunks do not count lol
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Reply #1 posted 09/12/09 8:40am

ernestsewell

Where do you people get these ideas from?

Radio stations speed up songs a slight bit to fit more bullshit music into an hour. They do it here on Fly92 all the time, and it's ridiculous.

About this "sound younger" part.....WTF? Why would a 17 year old artist need to sound any younger? That's a dumb idea.

A lot of artists will either sing their songs in the original key, or a half step or step down in concert. When you're touring and using your voice so much for nights on end, it saves the vocal cords to have it a bit lower live. Most times audiences don't notice anyway. However, lip sync artists like Britney and others: They have their songs in the same key, same pitch, same bpm, because.....well....they're not singing live anyway.
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Reply #2 posted 09/12/09 10:04am

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I've noticed it. Most of Diana Ross' CHIC album was sped up when Russ Terrana remixed it. There's some other Diana songs that sound unnaturally high-pitched. I've also wondered if the lead on Exposé's "What You Don't Know" was sped up. Gioia Bruno sounds rather Chipmunkesque on that one. hmmmmm?
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Reply #3 posted 09/12/09 1:17pm

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that radio idea seems plausible. but its on albums too. I've read about songs int he 50s where they've intentionally done that to make artists sound "youthful"
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Reply #4 posted 09/12/09 1:26pm

Timmy84

Mary Wells' "In and Out of Love" and Labelle's "Pressure Cookin'" were high-pitched.
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Reply #5 posted 09/12/09 10:56pm

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Nvncible1 said:

that radio idea seems plausible. but its on albums too. I've read about songs int he 50s where they've intentionally done that to make artists sound "youthful"



it wasn't to make the artists sound youthful, it was to give it a faster tempo so the kids could dance to it.
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Reply #6 posted 09/12/09 10:58pm

Timmy84

errant said:

Nvncible1 said:

that radio idea seems plausible. but its on albums too. I've read about songs int he 50s where they've intentionally done that to make artists sound "youthful"



it wasn't to make the artists sound youthful, it was to give it a faster tempo so the kids could dance to it.


Yeah a lot of the early Motown records were sped up too.
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Reply #7 posted 09/12/09 11:18pm

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Reply #8 posted 09/12/09 11:36pm

errant

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ernestsewell said:

Where do you people get these ideas from?

[snip]

About this "sound younger" part.....WTF? Why would a 17 year old artist need to sound any younger? That's a dumb idea.




okay, Bart... rolleyes
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Reply #9 posted 09/13/09 4:51am

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It happend to Bryan Adams when he first got signed, they did it, and his first single was so fast he had a disco hit. Also Billy Joel's Cold Spring Harbor, not purposely though, it got fucked up by the engineer, and when billy heard it, he got so depressed he attempted suicide

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Reply #10 posted 09/13/09 7:38am

Cinnie

lastdecember said:

It happend to Bryan Adams when he first got signed, they did it, and his first single was so fast he had a disco hit.


I love that song boxed

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ou_Dancing
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Reply #11 posted 09/13/09 7:41am

Cinnie

The only time I had heard of vocals being sped up with the intention of making the singer sound younger was when Brian Wilson's dad suggested this be done to "Caroline, No" off of Beach Boys' Pet Sounds.




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Reply #12 posted 09/13/09 8:46am

Timmy84

lastdecember said:

It happend to Bryan Adams when he first got signed, they did it, and his first single was so fast he had a disco hit. Also Billy Joel's Cold Spring Harbor, not purposely though, it got fucked up by the engineer, and when billy heard it, he got so depressed he attempted suicide


Billy thought he sounded like Alvin and the Chipmunks on Cold Spring Harbor, lol
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Reply #13 posted 09/13/09 10:17am

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I once recorded The Deele's I Surrender on cassette tape. On the CD player, the track is at a moderate tempo. But on the cassette tape player, the track is a little more uptempo.

This song is better on cassette!
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Reply #14 posted 09/13/09 11:43am

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lastdecember said:

Also Billy Joel's Cold Spring Harbor, not purposely though, it got fucked up by the engineer, and when billy heard it, he got so depressed he attempted suicide



omg, what an idiot.
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Reply #15 posted 09/13/09 12:44pm

Cinnie

errant said:

lastdecember said:

Also Billy Joel's Cold Spring Harbor, not purposely though, it got fucked up by the engineer, and when billy heard it, he got so depressed he attempted suicide



omg, what an idiot.

lol
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Reply #16 posted 09/13/09 1:57pm

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I noticed that on the video edit of Keri Hilson's song Knock You Down sounds a bit sped up because the drums are at a different pace than the album...
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Reply #17 posted 09/14/09 6:51am

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ABeautifulOne said:

I noticed that on the video edit of Keri Hilson's song Knock You Down sounds a bit sped up because the drums are at a different pace than the album...



thats one song that definetly made me notice. especially the TURNIN ME ON song. omg. wow. chipmunked the hell outta her on dat.
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Reply #18 posted 09/14/09 6:59am

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Timmy84 said:

errant said:




it wasn't to make the artists sound youthful, it was to give it a faster tempo so the kids could dance to it.


Yeah a lot of the early Motown records were sped up too.


Thats what I heard too! No wonder why when sometimes I have old albums on the pitch sounds slower on normal..compared to how I had heard it on the radio or just growing up hearing it. Hving to change the pitch to a higher one just to get the same effect.


Madonna admitted doing her vocals higher on some tracks for Hard Candy to get the old school feeling.
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Reply #19 posted 09/14/09 7:09am

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I think I read somewhere that Reggie Lucas did this with "Borderline" by Madonna. It does sound really high pitched and girlie, which is something she's never really been able to duplicate.
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Reply #20 posted 09/14/09 7:21am

RodeoSchro

Back in the '70's, the rumor was that Robert Plant's vocals were sped up on all the Led Zeppelin songs to make his voice sound higher.

I never found out if this was true or not.
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Reply #21 posted 09/14/09 8:13am

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Axchi696 said:

I think I read somewhere that Reggie Lucas did this with "Borderline" by Madonna. It does sound really high pitched and girlie, which is something she's never really been able to duplicate.



they did this with a lot of her early records. i think several songs on LAV (notably the title track) and Crazy For You got this treatment. i've always heard it about Borderline as well, but I don't know, her voice is kinda deep on that one, so I'm not sure if I buy it for that song. Lucky Star maybe.
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Reply #22 posted 09/14/09 8:51am

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Timmy84 said:

lastdecember said:

It happend to Bryan Adams when he first got signed, they did it, and his first single was so fast he had a disco hit. Also Billy Joel's Cold Spring Harbor, not purposely though, it got fucked up by the engineer, and when billy heard it, he got so depressed he attempted suicide


Billy thought he sounded like Alvin and the Chipmunks on Cold Spring Harbor, lol


Funny thing is that years later they re-worked the album for re-release and they still got it wrong. Billy has had it tough, 2 managers stole from him, and then on the early albums, they wouldnt let his band perform on it.

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Reply #23 posted 09/14/09 9:27am

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TonyVanDam said:

I once recorded The Deele's I Surrender on cassette tape. On the CD player, the track is at a moderate tempo. But on the cassette tape player, the track is a little more uptempo.

This song is better on cassette! smile


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