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Reply #60 posted 09/17/09 9:43pm

Sprite

For the person who asked what performances Beyonce lip synced?

Beyonce lip synced when she fell during a tour.

Beyonce lip synced when she performed at the Oscars with Jack Klugman. It was all over the news and the internet. However, Beyonce was the only one who lip synced. Jack Klugman sanged live.

I think she even lip synced at the VMAs awards.
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Reply #61 posted 09/17/09 9:47pm

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errant said:

so who works harder than Beyonce then? I mean, if it's not her... then who?


I think quite a few female artists work hard.




as I said... who works harder than Beyonce?
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Reply #62 posted 09/17/09 9:49pm

midiscover

Um this is absurd! Don't you have to be in the business for a LONG ass time to get this title. neutral
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Reply #63 posted 09/17/09 9:51pm

Sprite

[quote]Thank you. Beyonce's songs aren't the most interesting or lasting songs ever written. They get old quite quick and don't age well (except Crazy in Love). It'd be incredibly easy for a female singer to really kickstart her career and write her own songs, sing live and dance amazingly if they wanted to be better than her or as popular as her. [quote]

Beyonce has been caught in a lie many times about writing her own songs. She claimed she wrote "Irreplaceable" when it was actually written by Ne-Yo. And Beyonce lip syncs, and all Beyonce does is swing her hair, shake her azz/crotch and throw her legs up, similar to a stripper. That's not dancing. And she always opens her legs revealing things only her husband should see.

And, no, no one will become as popular as Beyonce right now because they only seem to want to build one or two black girls and Beyonce it is. It doesn't matter if the other black female artists are just as talented or more talented. Beyonce is the "chosen one" to get hyped, overrated, and overexposed. Lucky her.
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Reply #64 posted 09/17/09 9:58pm

Sprite

errant said:

Sprite said:



I think quite a few female artists work hard.




as I said... who works harder than Beyonce?


Many artists work as hard as Beyonce. Janet Jackson, Chante Moore, Mya, Angie Stone, Ciara, and others. Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't work hard.
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Reply #65 posted 09/17/09 10:00pm

midiscover

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errant said:





as I said... who works harder than Beyonce?


Many artists work as hard as Beyonce. Janet Jackson, Chante Moore, Mya, Angie Stone, Ciara, and others. Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't work hard.

Mya? Ciara? but I agree with Chante!
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Reply #66 posted 09/17/09 10:04pm

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Sprite said:

For the person who asked what performances Beyonce lip synced?

Beyonce lip synced when she fell during a tour.

Beyonce lip synced when she performed at the Oscars with Jack Klugman. It was all over the news and the internet. However, Beyonce was the only one who lip synced. Jack Klugman sanged live.

I think she even lip synced at the VMAs awards.


Finally!!!!! Someone who understands that Beyonce' uses pre-recorded vocals! Just like I said in this post (http://prince.org/msg/8/318305?jump=51#msg_6915381) .. I'll post the videos here to keep it all in one thread

in each of these Beyonce performances, during the first verse, she says "drop a couple hundred, tell em WHAT?!". The original line in the song is "drop a couple hundred, tell em leave it at the door". All these performances use the same pre-recorded track to "trick" the audience into believing it's "Live". Most people don't realize that the majority of Beyonce's shows are lipsynced.







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Reply #67 posted 09/17/09 10:05pm

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Beyonce has the SAME EXACT VOCALS in these performances during her first verse.










Now this performance (http://vodpod.com/watch/1...our-videos) is different because the pre-recorded track went out, forcing the group to sing live. Notice how you hear her pre-recorded track fade out and her mic gets turned up.
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Reply #68 posted 09/17/09 10:06pm

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errant said:





as I said... who works harder than Beyonce?


Many artists work as hard as Beyonce. Janet Jackson, Chante Moore, Mya, Angie Stone, Ciara, and others. Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't work hard.




seriously? I ask for women in showbusiness who work harder than Beyonce and the first name you come up with is Janet Jackson. that has GOT to be a joke. the woman hasn't worked hard at anything in 10 years. not at singing. not at touring. not at maintaining her integrity. not at writing music. not at promoting her albums. not even at MAKING her albums. I love her dearly, but if there's one thing that the last 10 years have taught us about Janet is that she just ain't that into it.
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Reply #69 posted 09/17/09 10:08pm

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I think she even lip synced at the VMAs awards.


She did. I even have the HQ Pre-recorded version of "Single Ladies" where parts are left out intentionally so she can add a "where all my single ladies at?!" line while performing.
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Reply #70 posted 09/17/09 10:13pm

Sprite

errant said:

Sprite said:



Many artists work as hard as Beyonce. Janet Jackson, Chante Moore, Mya, Angie Stone, Ciara, and others. Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't work hard.




seriously? I ask for women in showbusiness who work harder than Beyonce and the first name you come up with is Janet Jackson. that has GOT to be a joke. the woman hasn't worked hard at anything in 10 years. not at singing. not at touring. not at maintaining her integrity. not at writing music. not at promoting her albums. not even at MAKING her albums. I love her dearly, but if there's one thing that the last 10 years have taught us about Janet is that she just ain't that into it.


Well, in my opinion, Janet is a hard worker. What do you mean maintaining her integrity? If you are talking about the superbowl incident. Geez, it was an accident. Beyonce doesn't have too much integrity with being half naked and always opening up her legs and grabbing her panties on stage with a very short dress on, looking like a stripper. And Beyonce does not write her music she lies about that, and has been busted several times, including being busted by Ne-Yo. Beyonce does not work hard at MAKING her albums. Also, Janet's record company stopped promoting her albums after she got blacklisted after the superbowl incident. It was not Janet's fault.

Plus, Janet is older than Beyonce, and has been out since 1974. Janet's been in the game since she was 8 years old. She's been acting and singing. Beyonce will cool off later on in the years as well, but that doesn't mean that Janet is not a hard working woman. There are many people that think it's a joke that Beyonce is called the "hardest working woman in show business."
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Reply #71 posted 09/17/09 10:14pm

Sprite

ViintageJunkiie said:

Sprite said:

For the person who asked what performances Beyonce lip synced?

Beyonce lip synced when she fell during a tour.

Beyonce lip synced when she performed at the Oscars with Jack Klugman. It was all over the news and the internet. However, Beyonce was the only one who lip synced. Jack Klugman sanged live.

I think she even lip synced at the VMAs awards.


Finally!!!!! Someone who understands that Beyonce' uses pre-recorded vocals! Just like I said in this post (http://prince.org/msg/8/318305?jump=51#msg_6915381) .. I'll post the videos here to keep it all in one thread

in each of these Beyonce performances, during the first verse, she says "drop a couple hundred, tell em WHAT?!". The original line in the song is "drop a couple hundred, tell em leave it at the door". All these performances use the same pre-recorded track to "trick" the audience into believing it's "Live". Most people don't realize that the majority of Beyonce's shows are lipsynced.









Thank you, viintage junkiie.
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Reply #72 posted 09/17/09 10:18pm

midiscover

Sprite said:

errant said:





seriously? I ask for women in showbusiness who work harder than Beyonce and the first name you come up with is Janet Jackson. that has GOT to be a joke. the woman hasn't worked hard at anything in 10 years. not at singing. not at touring. not at maintaining her integrity. not at writing music. not at promoting her albums. not even at MAKING her albums. I love her dearly, but if there's one thing that the last 10 years have taught us about Janet is that she just ain't that into it.


Well, in my opinion, Janet is a hard worker. What do you mean maintaining her integrity? If you are talking about the superbowl incident. Geez, it was an accident. Beyonce doesn't have too much integrity with being half naked and always opening up her legs and grabbing her panties on stage with a very short dress on, looking like a stripper. And Beyonce does not write her music she lies about that, and has been busted several times, including being busted by Ne-Yo. Beyonce does not work hard at MAKING her albums. Also, Janet's record company stopped promoting her albums after she got blacklisted after the superbowl incident. It was not Janet's fault.

Plus, Janet is older than Beyonce, and has been out since 1974. Janet's been in the game since she was 8 years old. She's been acting and singing. Beyonce will cool off later on in the years as well, but that doesn't mean that Janet is not a hard working woman. There are many people that think it's a joke that Beyonce is called the "hardest working woman in show business."
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Reply #73 posted 09/17/09 10:30pm

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midiscover said:

Sprite said:



Well, in my opinion, Janet is a hard worker. What do you mean maintaining her integrity? If you are talking about the superbowl incident. Geez, it was an accident. Beyonce doesn't have too much integrity with being half naked and always opening up her legs and grabbing her panties on stage with a very short dress on, looking like a stripper. And Beyonce does not write her music she lies about that, and has been busted several times, including being busted by Ne-Yo. Beyonce does not work hard at MAKING her albums. Also, Janet's record company stopped promoting her albums after she got blacklisted after the superbowl incident. It was not Janet's fault.

Plus, Janet is older than Beyonce, and has been out since 1974. Janet's been in the game since she was 8 years old. She's been acting and singing. Beyonce will cool off later on in the years as well, but that doesn't mean that Janet is not a hard working woman. There are many people that think it's a joke that Beyonce is called the "hardest working woman in show business."
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who says the insane are unpredictable? lol
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Reply #74 posted 09/18/09 1:40am

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Sprite said:

purplesweat said:



Wrong. She got with Jay Z around 2002. Destiny's Child was already hugely successful by 2000


She became successful in 2000 with Destiny's Child because of the group member changes. Beyonce said it herself. I have her autobiography "Soul Survivor" and Beyonce says that they would have never sold as many records as they did without the controversy/drama of the group.

And Jay Z did help her become successful. Her first two songs didn't do as well until she appeared in a Jay z video (Me and My Girlfriend) and then had Jay Z appear on her Crazy In love Video, rap on her video and perform with her at the BET awards. That's when she really blew up.


1. I didn't know squat about the group member changes til at least 2002. I was buying their records in 2000 and it's ridiculous to claim that the only reason anyone would listen to a song/album is because the members changed around. Yes, it got them their headlines and made them well known ("oh that's the group with all the different members!") but that alone was not the ONLY reason they became successful. Even Beyonce didn't say it's the only reason she said they wouldn't have sold AS many. Honestly, I never gave a damn about member changing since the only one I cared about was Beyonce since she had the interesting voice and the best on screen/stage presence.

2. Your claim about Jay Z doesn't make sense. She appeared on Bonnie and Clyde in Dec 2002. In JUNE 03, Crazy in Love was released with Jay Z and then Baby Boy later on with Sean Paul. Bonnie and Clyde did well with mainstream audiences because BEYONCE was on the track, not because of Jay Z. Most people in Australia barely knew who Jay Z was and I'd say most of Bey's target audience didn't either (girls aged 10-20). Crazy in Love did well because it was Beyonce's first solo song. So she couldn't have being doing badly with her first two songs since they weren't released til way after Bonnie and Clyde.

All these singers, except for Rhianna, are white. That's my point. She knocks out the black female artists.


Well, since one of them is black isn't that proof? Rihanna was everywhere in 2007 and ended up outselling Bey's Irreplaceable with Umbrella because while everyone's heard a Bey girl anthem before, it was a totally new sound and look for Rihanna plus an undeniably great song. To me, it's all about individuality.

Most record execs would look straight past Pink and Gaga if they were up and coming artists today because they think people can't handle "different" artists (with opinions). Pink's lucky she's been around for ages and has her great stage shows and Gaga pretty much got in the back door thanks to Perez Hilton whoring her out. Rihanna ditched the generic dancehall R&B crap and hit it big with her new electro R&B sound. Taylor has her skills to back up the lame songs. Britney has the benefit of a stellar first half of her career but will need to get into action for the next album.

Same with Beyonce, they are both in danger of fading eventually if they don't keep it fresh like their rivals are. But they have very dedicated fan bases who worship the ground they walk on so the chances of either of them fading completely is slim.

Um this is absurd! Don't you have to be in the business for a LONG ass time to get this title.


Almost 13 years isn't enough?
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Reply #75 posted 09/18/09 1:53am

purplesweat

Can we stop the lip syncing bullshit already?

I don't know how many times I have to say I WAS AT THIS SHOW:



and it was most certainly notlip synced, neither were any of the performances. She has back up vocalists and sometimes a backing track playing but usually she sang so well she drowned it out any way.

Anyway, why post the hardest song of them all to sing? If there is a pre recorded track for this song, NO WONDER. Have you seen the routine that goes with it? Do you people even know it occurred toward the end of the show where she'd be vocally and physically exhausted?

This is the very last song of the show, I suppose she pre recorded "i can see all of y'all, every one of you!" as well as all the other talking she does?:



Take note of that huuuuuge standing ovation at the end. At the end of the day, fans don't give a hoot what the org has to complain about Beyonce this week. cool
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Reply #76 posted 09/18/09 6:14am

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Sprite said:

For the person who asked what performances Beyonce lip synced?

Beyonce lip synced when she fell during a tour.

Beyonce lip synced when she performed at the Oscars with Jack Klugman. It was all over the news and the internet. However, Beyonce was the only one who lip synced. Jack Klugman eek sanged live.

I think she even lip synced at the VMAs awards.




smile You mean Hugh Jackman. Jack Klugman is the dude from the "Odd Couple"

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Reply #77 posted 09/18/09 7:15am

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I'm not really a Beyonce fan but there's no denying that she is a hard worker.She releases a new CD every other year,and always does a tour for each one.I remember,she even did a final tour with Destiny's Child,after she had already done her first solo tour.You can't say she is lazy.She records music and stands behind it,promoting the hell out of it with videos for every song,lol.


Not to mention, whether we like it or not, she always has her mug up on the screen for a movie role, no matter how terrible an actress she is...and her machine has the business acumen to make sure her movie projects always have cross promotion tied into her music releases and tours. Let's not even start on how many product endorsements she has; soft drinks, cosmetics, fragrances for A-list fashion designers, and that's just domestically. Jeezus, once you start adding on the international product endorsements in Europe, Japan, it's all pretty staggering. She may not be an icon, but she certainly is a brand and industry all unto herself.
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Reply #78 posted 09/18/09 7:20am

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steelyd said:

Sprite said:

For the person who asked what performances Beyonce lip synced?

Beyonce lip synced when she fell during a tour.

Beyonce lip synced when she performed at the Oscars with Jack Klugman. It was all over the news and the internet. However, Beyonce was the only one who lip synced. Jack Klugman eek sanged live.

I think she even lip synced at the VMAs awards.




smile You mean Hugh Jackman. Jack Klugman is the dude from the "Odd Couple"

[Edited 9/18/09 6:16am]


oh god. how i wish it WAS Jack Klugman. i'm going to entertain myself all day fantasizing about Beyonce and Jack Klugman doing a routine at the Oscars together lol
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Reply #79 posted 09/18/09 11:18am

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Why does Beyonce receive so much consistent disrespect? I still don't understand that.

No popular female music artist, who started at the same time or after Beyonce, has a more arduous job than her: Not Solange. Not Britney Spears. Not Lady Gaga. Not Pink. Not Taylor Swift. And certainly not Rihanna or Miley Cyrus. Ciara may be close in terms of level of difficulty in her dance performance, but she is not able to put anywhere near as much effort/strength into her live vocals as Beyonce.

Edit: I've taken Taylor Swift out of this particular topic, 'cause like Alicia Keys, she's a song-writing instrumentalist who never dances or performs choreography onstage. So I don't think they should be compared to Beyonce.
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Reply #80 posted 09/18/09 11:24am

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errant said:

Sprite said:



I think quite a few female artists work hard.




as I said... who works harder than Beyonce?


MADONNA!

BK doesn't work hard. she tries hard. But she's fake and artificial.
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Reply #81 posted 09/18/09 11:32am

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I really have a love/hate with beyonce
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Reply #82 posted 09/18/09 12:46pm

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purplesweat said:

Can we stop the lip syncing bullshit already?

I don't know how many times I have to say I WAS AT THIS SHOW:



and it was most certainly notlip synced, neither were any of the performances. She has back up vocalists and sometimes a backing track playing but usually she sang so well she drowned it out any way.

Anyway, why post the hardest song of them all to sing? If there is a pre recorded track for this song, NO WONDER. Have you seen the routine that goes with it? Do you people even know it occurred toward the end of the show where she'd be vocally and physically exhausted?

This is the very last song of the show, I suppose she pre recorded "i can see all of y'all, every one of you!" as well as all the other talking she does?:



Take note of that huuuuuge standing ovation at the end. At the end of the day, fans don't give a hoot what the org has to complain about Beyonce this week. cool


I never said she lipsynchs slow songs, it's the fast songs that's pre-recorded. As a fan of Beyonce, I can see through the smoke and mirrors. I know she's not perfect and I can accept that.
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Reply #83 posted 09/18/09 9:08pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

purplesweat said:

Can we stop the lip syncing bullshit already?

I don't know how many times I have to say I WAS AT THIS SHOW:



and it was most certainly notlip synced, neither were any of the performances. She has back up vocalists and sometimes a backing track playing but usually she sang so well she drowned it out any way.

Anyway, why post the hardest song of them all to sing? If there is a pre recorded track for this song, NO WONDER. Have you seen the routine that goes with it? Do you people even know it occurred toward the end of the show where she'd be vocally and physically exhausted?

This is the very last song of the show, I suppose she pre recorded "i can see all of y'all, every one of you!" as well as all the other talking she does?:



Take note of that huuuuuge standing ovation at the end. At the end of the day, fans don't give a hoot what the org has to complain about Beyonce this week. cool


I never said she lipsynchs slow songs, it's the fast songs that's pre-recorded. As a fan of Beyonce, I can see through the smoke and mirrors. I know she's not perfect and I can accept that.


Well, I was there and her voice is perfect so there.
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Reply #84 posted 09/19/09 1:25am

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purplesweat said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



I never said she lipsynchs slow songs, it's the fast songs that's pre-recorded. As a fan of Beyonce, I can see through the smoke and mirrors. I know she's not perfect and I can accept that.


Well, I was there and her voice is perfect so there.


You say the songs arent pre-recorded, I say they are. It's your word against mine, we'll agree to disagree.
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Reply #85 posted 09/19/09 3:10am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

purplesweat said:



Well, I was there and her voice is perfect so there.


You say the songs arent pre-recorded, I say they are. It's your word against mine, we'll agree to disagree.


I was there. I'll just keep saying it.
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Reply #86 posted 09/19/09 2:56pm

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I'm not a huge fan, and I do think the half-naked, stripper thing is her one trick--one that she'd better enjoy now, cause she's clearly gonna turn into a cow someday; she's genetically thick and on her way to losing the battle of the bulge--BUT I have to give it to her:

She's earned The Hardest Working Woman in Show Business title.

Hardest working does not mean the best dancer or singer. It just means that she does not stop putting in work. From the albums, to movies, clothes, interviews, TV appearances, etc. she's working.

I don't envy her or her life one bit. She works a heck of a lot of harder than I ever have.
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Reply #87 posted 09/19/09 4:25pm

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nobody strips harder or pops that coochie harder than Beyonce! razz

I think we can all agree on that...an 80 million dollar stripper is a hard working stripper indeed!

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Reply #88 posted 09/19/09 8:45pm

Sprite

BklynBabe said:

nobody strips harder or pops that coochie harder than Beyonce! razz

I think we can all agree on that...an 80 million dollar stripper is a hard working stripper indeed!



LOL!
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Reply #89 posted 09/19/09 8:48pm

Sprite

Karen71 said:

I'm not a huge fan, and I do think the half-naked, stripper thing is her one trick--one that she'd better enjoy now, cause she's clearly gonna turn into a cow someday; she's genetically thick and on her way to losing the battle of the bulge--BUT I have to give it to her:

She's earned The Hardest Working Woman in Show Business title.

Hardest working does not mean the best dancer or singer. It just means that she does not stop putting in work. From the albums, to movies, clothes, interviews, TV appearances, etc. she's working.

I don't envy her or her life one bit. She works a heck of a lot of harder than I ever have.


I just see greed and overexposure.
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