missfee said:

Beyonce lip syncs.

SoulAlive said:

That's because she's greedy and she doesn't want anyone to steal her title as the "baddest chick in the game."

lowkey said:

And she wants to keep other black women from getting shine. She purposely puts out an album to crush other black women artist.

lowkey said:

I think of her as a stripper.

Sprite said:

So it's Beyonces fault that no other black female artists is widely known? If they can't shine while Beyonce is out, that's telling THEM they need to UPGRADE THEIR STAGE PRESENCE AND ATTITUDE. That has nothing to do with Beyonce.

ToraTora17 said:

You're wildin out with these gifs!

purplesweat said:

Wrong. She got with Jay Z around 2002. Destiny's Child was already hugely successful by 2000.



She wasn't a sex symbol until she went solo. She didn't make her relationship with Jay Z public until she was solo. The band member interchanging wasn't that big of a headline and DC got just as much attention as usual with Say My Name, which featured all 4 original members in song and video.



Wrong. I've seen her live and she didn't lip sync once in two and a half hours.

Find me a recent obviously lip synced performance of hers, please.



Proof? Other than biased speculation?



Thank you. Beyonce's songs aren't the most interesting or lasting songs ever written. They get old quite quick and don't age well (except Crazy in Love). It'd be incredibly easy for a female singer to really kickstart her career and write her own songs, sing live and dance amazingly if they wanted to be better than her or as popular as her. Look at her rivals - Britney, Gaga, Rihanna, Pink, Taylor.

Britney - always exciting, puts on an entertaining show, just starting to sing live.
Gaga - individuality, unique take on pop and her image, sings live.
Rihanna - very trendy, original videos, almost an electro R&B artist, usually sings live.
Pink - puts on great shows, sings live, writes own songs, open about her opinions.
Taylor - plays instruments, writes own songs, sings live (?)

The ones who DO and CAN compete with her all have their own individual streak and unique quality that separates them both from her and all her boring ass clones.

Vanilli said:

ditto

Sprite said:

You're probably right,but it's a tough business.You have to be aggressive and unrelenting.That's how Diana Ross,Madonna and others remained successful for so many years.Beyonce seems to have that same drive...that same ambition.

Vanilli said:

They are saying that because she is so OVER-EXPOSED!!!

SoulAlive said:

I dont get with all this Beyonce bashing - i think she's proved herself a highly talented and watchable artist over the years, both with Destiny's Child and solo. I think her main problem so far has been putting out a classic album. She's come close with Sasha Feirce, which has some really good songs on it, but is still lacking in some areas. it gets a bit monotonous, and most of the uptempo songs are quite weak IMO (apart from Single Ladies obviously).

I agree she has the drive and willingness to try new things to keep her going for a long time. Her success is nothing to do with Jay-z either.....her father on the other hand.....

paisleypark4 said:

An impressive visual,Im sure

ViintageJunkiie said:

i agree, current performers just dont cut it. beyonce cant stop nobody from shining if they got what it takes, the late 80's/early 90's had a number of female artists all in their prime competing with each other.

I think once Aaliyah passed away it just changed all the dynamics of the game. But we had many many female singers that should have been able to do it as big as Beyonce and some even bigger. Christina Milian is a big shock to me! Mya also has that triple threat. Even Ashanti is not so bad. And Brandy and Monica can still do their thing. Keyshia Cole is crazy raw.

CrozzaUK said:

I agree. She's got her classic song (Crazy in Love) but she's never had a solid album.

ToraTora17 said:

that pic is funny

she must be the hardest working woman....everyone knows who she is...her music is top of the charts...many videos of her fans trying to follow her dance.

purplesweat said:

She became successful in 2000 with Destiny's Child because of the group member changes. Beyonce said it herself. I have her autobiography "Soul Survivor" and Beyonce says that they would have never sold as many records as they did without the controversy/drama of the group.

And Jay Z did help her become successful. Her first two songs didn't do as well until she appeared in a Jay z video (Me and My Girlfriend) and then had Jay Z appear on her Crazy In love Video, rap on her video and perform with her at the BET awards. That's when she really blew up.

peacenlovealways said:

Lots of singers are hard working. Beyonce is just popular. Just because everyone knows who she is does not mean she's hardworking. And just because many of her fans try to follow her dance, it just means her music is trendy, it had nothing to do with her being hardworking.

Actually, the record companines and the media seem to hype only a few black women singers these days. It was not like this in the 80s and 90s. Back then, everyone could shine. It has nothing to do with "upgrading their stage prescence and attitude." However, it's different now, and they blow up one female artist. Beyonce knows this, and this is why she won't take a break. It's because of greed and she's afraid that someone will take her title of the "baddest chick in the game."
[Edited 9/17/09 21:18pm]

lowkey said:

Exactly. How can people blame Beyonce because she's out on her grind.

so who works harder than Beyonce then? I mean, if it's not her... then who?

Sprite said:

You have female artists such as Amerie, Ashanti, Keyshia Cole, Christina Milian, Jazmine Sullivan, the list goes on. None of them are even on Beyonce's record label if I'm not mistaken, so that's their labels fault. They push Beyonce hard because they know she can rack in the money. Them other artists just don't have what it takes. Beyonce is gonna take a break after her tour is over, but even if she takes a break, it ain't like it's gonna better the chances of another female taking her place because no one is on her level.

lowkey said:

Unfortunately, the music industry has changed now. In the 80s and 90s, lots of female artists were allowed to shine. Nowadays, they hype only a few female artists. There are many female artists who do not get any radioplay or promotions.....for example, Chante Moore, Angie Stone, Vanessa Willams, Shanice Wilson, T-boz, Mya, even Janet Jackson. However, these very same female artists got plenty of radio play and promotion back in the 80s or 90s. Beyonce gets a LOT of radio play and promotion. Plus, she's everywhere. She can't help but do good in the music industry. With all that promotion and radioplay, you can't help but know about her. Also, I remember a comedian said that they play Beyonce's music so much that after the 1,000 time, you start to like it. See, that's how Beyonce is able to do so good. She is practically shoved down our throats where others are not. They play her music so much and promote her very heavily. If other female artists were promoted like this, they would have a chance to shine, but some peoople don't even know that they have an album or song out. But EVERYONE will know about Beyonce's song.

I miss the 90s.
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ViintageJunkiie said:

Well, I disagree. There are many female artists on Beyonce's level and BEYOND, especially Brandy, Whitney Houston, Mya, Monica, Janet Jackson and others. And I don't want another female to take Beyonce's place. I want MANY females to take Beyonce's place. However, I don't mind Beyonce being out. I just want lots of female artists to shine like it was in the 80s and 90s. I think that's better, so people won't get sick of seeing just one person. That's why a lot of people don't like Beyonce. I think if she wasn't so overexposed, people wouldn't get tired of her and dislike her.

errant said:

I think quite a few female artists work hard.

SoulAlive said:

But back then, the music industry let other female artists shine during Diana Ross and Madonna's prime. However, during Beyonce's prime, the music industry has changed and only hypes up very few female artists. There are some female artists whose music is not being played or promoted.

This attitude would be fine if Beyonce was greedy in the 80s and 90s because the music industry wasn't limiting female artists like they are today. So with Beyonce doing that, it's hurting other black female artists.

Madonna and Diana Ross could do that back in the 80s and 90s because the music industry was different back then and everyone could shine. But, today, the music world is different and does NOT let everyone shine.

purplesweat said:

All these singers, except for Rhianna, are white. That's my point. She knocks out the black female artists.

Sprite said:

Come on now, you can't even put Janet in it because we all know Janet SHITS on Beyonce. Look at all those women that you named. They're all talented, but I just don't see how Beyonce is relevant to them, seeing that they were all out BEFORE Beyonce was even out. If anything, they should be the ones out in the spotlight. I'm not saying that they lost their touch, I'm just saying that they may need to work a little harder to promote themselves.