Timmy84 said: And more breaking news, the grass outside is green.
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utopia7 said: Timmy84 said: And more breaking news, the grass outside is green.
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SCNDLS said: utopia7 said: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Don't believe Timmy, he lyin'! ![]() My nose ain't grown yet. ![]() ![]() | |
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Unfortunately, Tonex is such a fringe member of the gospel community now, I dont know that it will have any impact on changing any attitudes or opening hearts to accept and love our gay brothers and sisters. I think its going to take a more "traditional" person like a BeBe (not that he is closeted) to come out to open any doors. | |
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Timmy84 said: SCNDLS said: Don't believe Timmy, he lyin'! ![]() My nose ain't grown yet. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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Shango said: Timmy84 said: My nose ain't grown yet. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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Alamine said: 11 September 2009
WATCH: Gospel Star Tonex Confirms Rumors and Same Sex Attraction Anthony Charles Williams II, the Stellar Award-winning gospel singing artist, producer and minister better known by his stage name Tonex, confirms his long-rumored sexuality and admits that he "is" attracted to men. Tonex's admission on the popular The Lexi Show, a popular gospel and Christian YouTube show, is perhaps the first time a gospel singer has confirmed their homosexuality, writes Darian Aaron, the Atlanta-based blogger and gospel music fan. "Tonex boldly opens the closet door in a way that I could never imagine anyone else in the gospel music industry having the courage to do. As a childhood victim of molestation, Tonex refuses to blame his same-sex attraction on this experience like many of his colleagues who "struggle" with homosexuality (i.e. Donnie McClurkin) and corrects the interviewer when she attempts to frame the discussion in this way. 'It wasn't a struggle. And then people like to blame the struggle on molestation. No. Just say you were attracted to men and be honest and quit blaming it on that experience', says Tonex." Although Tonex does not come out and say he is gay, several times in the interview he emphasizes that he "is attracted" to men and that is "not a struggle". On numerous previous times, the flamboyant recording artist has denied that he was gay, most famously on the 2007 video of The Naked Truth and an infamous YouTube video where he swore and used profanity. "I take ownership for that," Tonex now admits. Tonex also blasts the black church for its hypocrisy and its mistreatment of LGBTs: "The church has completely faggotized everybody who's gay, sends them to hell over the pulpit and the church literally screams hooray and are happy about that. And yet, we celebrate the pastor who has a clean record and a clean look, but yet he is still doing the same thing that the same gender loving people are doing." ![]() [Edited 9/12/09 10:32am] If he knew he was gay then why the fuck did he get married in the first place? He had to know this waaaayyyy before he said "I Do" to his ex-wife! ![]() I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault! | |
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he looks sweeter than a potato...
jus sayin... ![]() | |
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..wait a minute..Clifton Davis???!!??
..the "Amen/That's My Mama" Clifton Davis? I knew he was married and had kids during those years but I thought he left his wife for his co-star Anna Marie Horsford...(or however you spell her last name). Didn't know he was gay...(not that there's anything wrong with that). | |
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Be what ever u want.....just keep the music coming. | |
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SPYZFAN1 said: ..wait a minute..Clifton Davis???!!??
..the "Amen/That's My Mama" Clifton Davis? I knew he was married and had kids during those years but I thought he left his wife for his co-star Anna Marie Horsford...(or however you spell her last name). Didn't know he was gay...(not that there's anything wrong with that). Years ago there were rumors about him and a famous singer who made one of his songs popular as a teen. "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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carlcranshaw said: SPYZFAN1 said: ..wait a minute..Clifton Davis???!!??
..the "Amen/That's My Mama" Clifton Davis? I knew he was married and had kids during those years but I thought he left his wife for his co-star Anna Marie Horsford...(or however you spell her last name). Didn't know he was gay...(not that there's anything wrong with that). Years ago there were rumors about him and a famous singer who made one of his songs popular as a teen. All I can say is it's untrue and I know WHICH TEEN SINGER you're talking about. ![]() | |
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Timmy84 said: carlcranshaw said: Years ago there were rumors about him and a famous singer who made one of his songs popular as a teen. All I can say is it's untrue and I know WHICH TEEN SINGER you're talking about. ![]() I believe Cliff is out there but not with that particular singer. | |
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Graycap23 said: Timmy84 said: All I can say is it's untrue and I know WHICH TEEN SINGER you're talking about. ![]() I believe Cliff is out there but not with that particular singer. For real. | |
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I totally respect what Tonex did. One of the hardest things you can do is come out when you in the Church. The fear of judgment is so thick, it can be crippling. I just hope other folks in the pupit who are hiding behind it will see what Tonex has done, come out and be honest with themselves and their families, let alone all of us. As you can see here, we can already tell you who the "How YOU doin's?" are already, for the most part. If these people in the Gospel community are going to walk in "spirit and in truth", then they just need to be who they are already, cause God already knows what's up.
Big ups to Tonex, from one Gay Christian Brother to another. ![]() I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: I totally respect what Tonex did. One of the hardest things you can do is come out when you in the Church. The fear of judgment is so thick, it can be crippling. I just hope other folks in the pupit who are hiding behind it will see what Tonex has done, come out and be honest with themselves and their families, let alone all of us. As you can see here, we can already tell you who the "How YOU doin's?" are already, for the most part. If these people in the Gospel community are going to walk in "spirit and in truth", then they just need to be who they are already, cause God already knows what's up.
Big ups to Tonex, from one Gay Christian Brother to another. ![]() As Marvin said, "God is our friend". ![]() | |
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Timmy84 said: purplecam said: I totally respect what Tonex did. One of the hardest things you can do is come out when you in the Church. The fear of judgment is so thick, it can be crippling. I just hope other folks in the pupit who are hiding behind it will see what Tonex has done, come out and be honest with themselves and their families, let alone all of us. As you can see here, we can already tell you who the "How YOU doin's?" are already, for the most part. If these people in the Gospel community are going to walk in "spirit and in truth", then they just need to be who they are already, cause God already knows what's up.
Big ups to Tonex, from one Gay Christian Brother to another. ![]() As Marvin said, "God is our friend". ![]() He wasn't lyin. ![]() I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: Timmy84 said: As Marvin said, "God is our friend". ![]() He wasn't lyin. ![]() He sure wasn't. ![]() | |
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Graycap23 said: Timmy84 said: All I can say is it's untrue and I know WHICH TEEN SINGER you're talking about. ![]() I believe Cliff is out there but not with that particular singer. OK. That's good to hear. But look at the look in the singer's eye when he sings the song Clifton wrote on that record company anniversary performance from the 80's. He looks kind of sad. "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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carlcranshaw said: Graycap23 said: I believe Cliff is out there but not with that particular singer. OK. That's good to hear. But look at the look in the singer's eye when he sings the song Clifton wrote on that record company anniversary performance from the 80's. He looks kind of sad. Yeah you got a point I guess, lol | |
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SavonOsco said: It's a hustle for many and we all know that..alot of them are just people that couldnt get a break in the R&B genre and moved to gospel. Like who? I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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carlcranshaw said: SPYZFAN1 said: ..wait a minute..Clifton Davis???!!??
..the "Amen/That's My Mama" Clifton Davis? I knew he was married and had kids during those years but I thought he left his wife for his co-star Anna Marie Horsford...(or however you spell her last name). Didn't know he was gay...(not that there's anything wrong with that). Years ago there were rumors about him and a famous singer who made one of his songs popular as a teen. Whoa, whoa, WTF did I miss? ![]() | |
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![]() Whether Tonex affirms his same-sex attraction as a natural, benign variation of how God makes us or feels he's called to celibacy in faith, I truly respect and applaud him for this. "Rightness" or "wrongness" of same-sex attraction aside, this crushing fear of admitting that we are so oriented and these sad attempts to equivocate who we are by automatically blaming it on some trauma (not that I'm saying trauma never has an influence on sexual expression) have GOT to go! Good on him! Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Adisa said: SavonOsco said: It's a hustle for many and we all know that..alot of them are just people that couldnt get a break in the R&B genre and moved to gospel. Like who? Dave Hollister Coko Kelly Price And a set of other names that escape me at the moment. Point is, if you're a gimmick-free R&B VOCALIST, the industry is not a place to be these years. | |
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Harlepolis said: Adisa said: Like who? Dave Hollister Coko Kelly Price And a set of other names that escape me at the moment. Point is, if you're a gimmick-free R&B VOCALIST, the industry is not a place to be these years. All those people got a break in R&B. What we all know is that, historically, folks cut their teeth singing gospel in the church, then go professional in the secular and R&B, and sometimes return to their original gospel roots. SavonOsco's statement to me said that there are specific people who tried to go pro in R&B, couldn't, and then tried another genre, in this case gosepel. If that's what the statement meant I am asking who s/he is talking about. ![]() [Edited 9/14/09 19:27pm] I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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kenlacam said: Interesting read, but it's nothing new. James Cleveland was also gay, and Bobby Jones is still in denial.
If Bobby Jones is still in denial, then Kirk Franklin is past denial. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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carlcranshaw said: Graycap23 said: I believe Cliff is out there but not with that particular singer. OK. That's good to hear. But look at the look in the singer's eye when he sings the song Clifton wrote on that record company anniversary performance from the 80's. He looks kind of sad. It was also rumor that this singer was gonna have a sex change operation and wanted to married Clifton Davis yup ![]() i think spoke out against it tho' ![]() | |
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Chic35 said: BeBe Winans now that is a shock!
![]() Be Be Winans has never been proven gay. He gave an interview in Jet a few years back that was very homophobic. And he was saying things like gay men had no place in the church or in gospel music. So, I'm not sure why people are now saying he's gay. "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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Adisa said: Harlepolis said: Dave Hollister Coko Kelly Price And a set of other names that escape me at the moment. Point is, if you're a gimmick-free R&B VOCALIST, the industry is not a place to be these years. All those people got a break in R&B. What we all know is that, historically, folks cut their teeth singing gospel in the church, then go professional in the secular and R&B, and sometimes return to their original gospel roots. SavonOsco's statement to me said that there are specific people who tried to go pro in R&B, couldn't, and then tried another genre, in this case gosepel. If that's what the statement meant I am asking who s/he is talking about. ![]() [Edited 9/14/09 19:27pm] from what I have seen when one has a successful r&b career and they are really selling well they'll continue to do r&b it's only when they start to fail in that area that they usually return to there gospel roots. | |
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