VoicesCarry said:

i'll have to take a gander when i get home. though my mom has moved her music collection so i'll have to do some digging around. and i know i've been a fan longer than you've been alive and i'm not that much older than you LOL

ehuffnsd said:

And this makes a difference how?

I'm just saying, I've been collecting hardcore for 10 years and this is the first time I've ever heard anyone suggest that the credits were changed at some point. It's just amusing that it's happening in the context of this debate. There would be hundreds of thousands of copies of this first pressing in existence - and no one's ever mentioned it online? Odd to say the least. It's not like the Japanese first pressing of Control with the bonus track that remained unknown to most fans for many years because it was so scarce.

Regardless of what people may believe about Janet's artistic contributions, the RRHOF honours the career accomplishments of an artist, so she is more than deserving (I am glad we agree on this point).
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VoicesCarry said:

no i mentioned it about a month ago and i said i think but wasn't certain. i would have looked for it when i was home last but i was caught up in my brothers 30th birthday and a 10 year high school reunion so i didn't have the time to go digging through my mom's music collection to find the cassette in question. i can't remember if i ended up taking it or if i left in with her stuff.

ehuffnsd said:

Okay...

VoicesCarry said:

i only mentioned the fan thing cause i remember one time you called me a hater and i had to remind you i was fan before you and thinking about it was a fan before you were even born.

ehuffnsd said:

I called you a hater? I'm sorry, I don't remember that. Doesn't sound like me - I've never used the word "hater" on this forum.

VoicesCarry said:

something similar. you at one point in time were very defensive of J, more than you are now

ehuffnsd said:

Okay....

Back to the discussion...

VoicesCarry said:

Ofcourse she'll get inducted. She has 4 superb albums. That's more than Madonna. And I like Madonna more
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errant said:

Yeah,most of those songs were written for Sharon Bryant,the former lead singer of Atlantic Starr.That would have been her solo debut album.



That's true.By the time they worked with Janet on 'Control',Jam and Lewis had already established themeselves as the top R&B production team,with major hits by SOS Band,Cherelle,Alexander O'Neal,Change,Gladys Knight And The Pips,Cheryl Lynn,Real To Reel and others.

No way! If she wasn't Michael's sister she would not have had the success that she has had. She is not a good singer and has a limited vocal range. While she seems like a sweet lady she just does not have the musical credibilty.

Absolutely! I don't see why she doesn't deserve it. Her influence on Pop/R&B, dance and even film should earn her a spot in the Hall. Maybe they're waiting for Control's 25 years.
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Guys and Gals,

Come on, I like some of her stuff but groundbreaking or definitive I don't believe it is.

There are better artists some of which that I don't even personally like that should be in there before.

Everyone can't be in there....

If Madonna is there.....Janet should be as well.

aalloca said:

Sustaining a 30-year career in the industry, 6 No. 1 albums, 10 No. 1 hits on the Hot 100 (27 Top Tens), 16 No. 1 hits on the R&B charts.....yes, Janet has had more than enough success to warrant her inclusion. She has made some of the definitive pop/R&B records of the past 25 years.
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lipstick said:

She's the only other Jackson to achieve superstardom. I guess that success was derived purely from being Michael's sister? No.

VoicesCarry said:

Not trying to get in a pissing match, but doesn't Britney also have tons of #1 this and that... It just means popularity.

I like Janet, but again folks here tend to inflate her quite a bit.

aalloca said:

britney only has two #1s .

aalloca said:

inflate her? i'm in no mood for a pissing match, either, but please. if anything people are constantly trying to discredit her. and why people always bring Britney up in the same sentence as janet is beyond me. britney is basically a carbon-copy of janet, and people just cannot seem to see that.

aalloca said:

I agree with you, but Janet seems to meet the criteria for getting inducted.

http://www.rockhall.com/i...n-process/

It seems to be based more on influence. No one here can deny that she has influenced an entire generation of performers. After Janet blew up, you started to see people like Pebbles, Vanessa Williams, Christina Aguilera, Britney, and even Jody Messina do the similar staging and performances to Janet. So the influential part is definitely there.

lipstick said:

This claim is about as dated as headbands and leg warmers

If it wasn't for Joe Jackson (Her father) she wouldn't be where she is right now! I don't understand why people keep crediting Michael for Janet's success. I understand MJ was very talented! But there's no need to discredit the whole entire family. He wasn't the only one that could sing and dance.

When Janet got a contract MJ didn't even reach his pinnacle of success. It was Janet's last name that got her one foot in the door. Not her brother! If you want to know what Jackson gave another artist a career that would be Jermaine Jackson. He's the reason why there ever was a Debarge. If he didn't listen to that tape Bobby Debarge handed then there wouldn't be a Debarge. But Janet on the other doesn't have to thank anyone for her success but herself!

When do they announce the nominees for the 2010 inductees?

trueiopian said:

trueiopian said:

why did A&M give her a deal in the first place? she didn't hand them a demo tape.

ehuffnsd said:

Joe Jackson, lol

Timmy84 said:

so her last name got her in the door?

ehuffnsd said:

From Wikipedia
Although Jackson was initially apprehensive about starting a music career, she agreed to participate in recording sessions with her family. The first of these, a duet with her brother Randy titled "Love Song for Kids", took place in 1978. When Jackson was sixteen, her father arranged a contract for her with A&M Records.[3] Her debut album, Janet Jackson, produced by soul singers Angela Winbush, René Moore and Leon F. Sylvers III, was released in 1982, the entire production of which was overseen by her father Joseph.[3] It peaked at number six on the Billboard Hot R&B albums chart.[7]

Jackson's second album, Dream Street, was released two years later. Her father recruited her brothers to help produce the album: Marlon co-wrote two of the album's tracks, while Tito, Jackie and Michael provided background vocals.[3] Dream Street reached number nineteen on the R&B albums chart; its sales were less than that of Jackson's debut album.[7] The album's only hit, "Don't Stand Another Chance", peaked at number nine on Billboard's R&B singles chart.[8] In late 1984, Jackson eloped with childhood friend and fellow R&B singer James DeBarge. They divorced shortly afterwards, and the marriage was annulled in mid-1985.[9][10]

ehuffnsd said:

Got her a deal. I also think being on "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Good Times" also helped.

It's what SHE did that helped her to become successful as a singer and entertainer.

Plus she really didn't wanna be a singer initially but because of JOE, she felt she had no choice. After going through so much between '82 and '85, she began to become just as determined to make her own name rather than stay inside the Jackson shadows.
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Timmy84 said:

i don't doubt her hardwork got her where she was, but if she wasn't a jackson she wouldn't have had the headstart to that place.