MendesCity said:

MendesCity said:

I agree!

But eversince the start of the 90s, pop music has been leaning more toward the "manic depressive" syndrome.

Harlepolis said:

I think rock has been in a whiny phase for quite a while. I prefer Nirvana for having full blown man sized depression

Harlepolis said:

but actually I know people in every art (movies, books, music, etc) who seem to think that the more depressing & disturbing, the better the art.

It even applies to your own Billie Holiday. They'd say "man, SHE had issues--I love her!"

Cinnie said:

The album is dated like a motherfucker tho.

NDRU said:

Now see, thats EXACTLY my issue when artists tackle other grounds instead of the "dark area",,,they get dismissed

I don't understand that, REAL art to me is unlabeled, and maybe I'm abit naive but I thought ANYTHING genuine regardless of its "mood" get across easily,,,,,Billie Holiday is mostly known as a "torch singer" sadly(and I was guilty of assuming that as well) but contrary to the popular image,,,,she had alot of variety in her plate(All you gotta do is listen to Please Don't Talk About Me when I'm gone, Ain't Nobody's Business, Now Or Never and etc).

I can understand and respect it if some people are set in their own ways, tastes wise,,,,but hell, even a manic depressive has a variety of moods that couldn't survive without 'em music is def the same.

Harlepolis said:

a true artist expresses all their moods, not just the depressing ones, and not just the happy ones for that matter.
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why can't there be room for emotionally heavy, honest art AND fun mindless fun/pretty art?

when i'm in the mood to listen to nirvana, i listen to nirvana.

when i want to hear deee-lite, i listen to deee-lite.

just because i like one doesn't mean i can't like the other.

are people really THAT one-dimensional?

Anxiety said:

What are you, running for office?

NDRU said:

If by "office" you mean "the bathroom", then yes I am. I had some pretty intense Mexican food for dinner last night.

Anxiety said:

Read this thread from start to finish and you'll have your answer

Harlepolis said:

yeah, well.

Anxiety said:

sounds like a job for a wide stance!

My favorite songs are either crazy catchy dance or manic depressive singer songwritery. so maybe thats why I love Of Montreal crazy dance with crazy depressing lyrics!

Imago said:

Anxiety said:

Actually, it's 'person' and it's called Riverpoet-something

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

When I saw the thread this is what came to mind.

How the fuck is thriller and sgt pepper's overrated when they changed the music industy.

I don't think 'Thriller' is overrated at all.It really is an incredible album.A landmark album that truly changed the world.

voyevoda said:

How did "Thriller", change the industry? In hindsight, "Thriller's" sound, was no different that anything else at that time. Promotion was key, in "Thriller's" success. Had others received that kind of promotion, I am sure the race for number one, would have been much closer.

SoulAlive said:

Precisely. i would say it wasn't acclaimed by critics upon release, even MJ's fans don't consider it his best. on this here board, OTW and Dangerous consistantly get the nod over it.

My opinion of it, is that it shaped future RnB, how albums are presented, how singles were released from albums, videos and on it goes. it was a blueprint for the industry to follow.

I still prefer OTW.

Cinnie said:

It was EVERYWHERE and when I got older and listened to it, it didn't have as big of an impression with me. I still liked it but I wasn't in love with it. "The Chronic" and "Doggystyle" were staples in my house

voyevoda said:

How did 'Thriller' change the music industry?
The videos did, but they aren't the album are they?

SUPRMAN said:

Dude if people in fucken caves of Afghanistan know the songs to this album then it deserves all the praise it gets. I like off the wall better but thriller is not overrated.

voyevoda said:

Yep Thriller is a great "POP" album and the videos enhanced the LP .... the sound of the album just like alot of the beatles later work sounds current, the billie jean bass line will move kids to dance 20 years from now

Any David Bowie or U2 albums are

voyevoda said:

It's older than the kids in llth grade this year, it's allowed to sound "dated"

bboy87 said:

That sounds so wrong, but I must say the chronic and doggystyle are essential to my current living situation.

Cinnie said:

Let me rephrase that...the album sounds like shit.So does his 2nd album. What the fuck is dre doing anyways these days. Last time I saw him he looked like he had taken steroids.
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voyevoda said:

I'm sure that's not the only Western pop album they've been exposed to.
Just because people have heard it doesn't make it good.
They probably can sing Britney and Madonna songs also.