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Reply #150 posted 09/29/09 9:59am

mikesdyke

Good CD.Great Songs.
Is Mariah less focused on the industry and stardom? She recorded an album but she aint on every show, radio & country promoting.
She probably realises whats the point of breaking more records at the cost of not having a family and life. I think she will make albums forever. I think this is sign that girl is about to hang up her commercial shoes. an album here a movie there alas Striesand.

She's done it all and now she wants a life. go girl.
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Reply #151 posted 09/29/09 10:00am

suga10

I don't like the majority of the cd from what I've heard.

I do like Languishing and Its a Wrap.
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Reply #152 posted 09/29/09 10:22am

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IS it me or is Mariah less focused on the industry and stardom?


It's not you: She told USA Today that it's unlikely she'd launch a major tour in support of the new album.
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Reply #153 posted 09/29/09 10:34am

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Copycat said:

mikesdyke said:


IS it me or is Mariah less focused on the industry and stardom?


It's not you: She told USA Today that it's unlikely she'd launch a major tour in support of the new album.


Clearly her focus is elsewhere. This is not to say her creativity or passion is any less. She probably doesn't want to do the 2 years of constant work required 'after' you release an album as she previously did. Artist, mother & wife is probably how she sees her future in the industry. Not a popstar.


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Reply #154 posted 09/29/09 10:50am

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Copycat said:

mikesdyke said:


IS it me or is Mariah less focused on the industry and stardom?


It's not you: She told USA Today that it's unlikely she'd launch a major tour in support of the new album.


She don't have to do anything else really...she has reached her peak(s)...it is seemingly a good time for her to have a family...even if its with that dork....
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Reply #155 posted 09/29/09 10:50am

suga10

I don't know if it has anything to do with Mariah or not, but clearly her quality of her work has a lot to do with the producers she has chosen to work with in recent years.

I miss the days she used to work with Walter Afanasieff. Mariah and him made some amazing songs together.

I don't care about what her priorities are. Make a quality music album, and that's it. I could care less about promotion, tour, or whatever.
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Reply #156 posted 09/29/09 11:38am

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Ribbon is a hot track.

The remake of what love is is a nice ballad.
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Reply #157 posted 09/29/09 1:19pm

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purplewisdom said:

Ribbon is a hot track.

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I want to like it but The Dream's vocals destroyed it for me. Could have been so good cry
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Reply #158 posted 09/29/09 5:09pm

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(Newsday) Associated Press Review


MUSIC REVIEW: CAREY'S "IMPERFECT ANGEL" IS PERFECT

"I should crack you right in your forehead," Mariah Carey sings on the breakup tune "It's a Wrap". The song, on her latest CD, "Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel", finds a hungover Carey kicking her lover to the curb with particularly harsh words.
"Another early morning, and you walk in like it's nothing ... ain't no doughnuts, ain't coffee," she sings with attitude in her signature high-pitch tone. "Let me take a breath and regain my composure, told you more time, if you (expletive) up it's over."
But even though she's spitting venom, Carey's cooing on the doo-wop sounding song is so sensuous and sweet, even the song's intended target will remain under her spell - as will her listeners. "Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel" is an exceptional album that is about love - being in it, out of it, over it and trying to reach it. While the subjects are tried and true, they are never tired, thanks to Carey's approach, which mixes a good dose of humor and wit with her multi-octave voice.
"Betcha Gon' Know", the disc's opening track, sets the tone as Carey compares the seriousness of her broken heart to news programs like "60 Minutes", "20/20" and "The Oprah Winfrey Show". Carey produced and wrote the majority of the album with Christopher "Tricky" Stewart and Terius "The-Dream" Nash - and those hitmakers add their own touch to "Imperfect Angel" without overdoing it.
"Ribbon", which bumps with southern flavor, is radio-friendly, showcasing The-Dream and Tricky's signature sound. As does "Standing O", with its addictive hook. Other notables tunes include "H.A.T.E.U." ("Having a Typical Emotional Upset"), a beautiful heartbreak ballad, and the top-notch "Candy Bling", a teenage love affair tune that finds Carey so in love she "can't delete your picture from my mind".
Some of the tracks use samples: "Inseparable" interpolates Cyndi Lauper's "Time After Time" and "The Impossible" finds Carey "layin' in the bed bumpin' Jodeci". The latter samples the R&B group's hit song "Forever My Lady".
"Imperfect Angel", though helmed by The-Dream and Tricky, still maintains a classic Mariah sound - especially on the soothing "Angels Cry" and its accompanying prelude, and the personal "Languishing", highlighted by a piano. No one is perfect - that's obvious. This CD is - that's obvious too.

(Newsday)


Funny how reviews are nothing more than an opinion, someone needs to post the Daily News NYC review, her hometown, One star.

And here it is.....


New York Daily News
By Jim Farber
Rating: 1 / 5 stars

Mariah Carey's 'Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel' obscures any chance at vocal perfection
Carey couldn't have picked a more ironic title for her latest CD. While the singer dubbed it "Confessions of an Imperfect Angel," much of the disc strives for a perfectionism you'd expect of someone caught in the dark grip of O.C.D.

From the treatment of the vocals, to the strategy of the songwriting, to the use of instrumentation, "Angel" reeks of idealization and self-consciousness.

That's most obvious in the way the producers dealt with Carey's signature feature - her voice. Rarely do we hear it clearly. Nearly every syllable sounds like it's been tricked up by a war room full of compressors, echo-chambers, filters, audio-tuners, and God knows what other contraptions too much time and money can buy.

At the start of the opening cut "Betcha Gon Know," Carey's voice gets flattened into an affectless monotone that makes her sound like Hal from "2001." In "Why Are You" the hooky parts sound as artificially treated as any vocal trick from T-Pain. In places, so much air and echo whooshes around Carey's voice, she seems to hiss.

Isn't this how producers treat stars who can't sing?

Then again, non-singers regularly score big singles these days. So perhaps it was a savvy move for Carey to mimic their style.

Certainly, it's a cynical move, if hardly a new one for the singer. Carey's last CD, "E=MC2" also applied a heavy layer of gauze to her voice, though a less gloppy one than this time. Likewise, her last CD pushed her further into hip-hop's most melodically spare palette. The more years that pass following Carey's time with Tommy Motolla, the more she shuns her broad and tuneful ballads in favor of something melodically bare and rhythmically slovenly.

This time, Carey takes that m.o. to the extreme. Like some female equivalent to R.Kelly, most of the new songs feature no more than 3 notes a piece, repeated in a sing-songy drone. As sheer craft, it's so depressing, even something like Foreigner's "I Want To Know What Love Is" (which Carey covers at the CD's close) sounds like The Beatles by comparison.

To camouflage the bare tunes, Carey over-indulges her most mocked features: those rococo melismas and that shrieking tea-kettle whistle. One track, "Angel (The Prelude)" consists of nothing but the latter.

The instrumentation proves just as eagerly artificial. If there's a non-synthezed instrument here, it's keeping itself well hidden. Carey even carries over the impersonal nature of the CD to her lyrics. Despite the "Memoir" moniker, there isn't a single telling disclosure. Or so we have reason to presume. Though this is her first CD since she married Nick Cannon, only two tracks treat love as anything but an act of betrayal or a spur to longing.

The result may mean to mirror the youthful frustrations of hip-hop-inflected R&B but it's an antique version of it. R&B stars like Beyonce and Keisha Cole have lately progressed into something far more sophisticated than this. Coupled with the nervous over-correction of her voice, the result makes Carey seem like the proverbial aging actress who's trying so hard to cover her perceived flaws, all she does is call more attention to them.


Say what you want about the actual album and view of it, but that line about "this is how you treat singers who cant sing, is dead fucking on point", and i hate Jim Farber, but thats where he nailed it on the production
[Edited 9/29/09 17:14pm]

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Reply #159 posted 09/29/09 6:28pm

Serena

lastdecember said:


Funny how reviews are nothing more than an opinion, someone needs to post the Daily News NYC review, her hometown, One star.

And here it is.....


New York Daily News
By Jim Farber
Rating: 1 / 5 stars

Mariah Carey's 'Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel' obscures any chance at vocal perfection
Carey couldn't have picked a more ironic title for her latest CD. While the singer dubbed it "Confessions of an Imperfect Angel," much of the disc strives for a perfectionism you'd expect of someone caught in the dark grip of O.C.D.

From the treatment of the vocals, to the strategy of the songwriting, to the use of instrumentation, "Angel" reeks of idealization and self-consciousness.

That's most obvious in the way the producers dealt with Carey's signature feature - her voice. Rarely do we hear it clearly. Nearly every syllable sounds like it's been tricked up by a war room full of compressors, echo-chambers, filters, audio-tuners, and God knows what other contraptions too much time and money can buy.

At the start of the opening cut "Betcha Gon Know," Carey's voice gets flattened into an affectless monotone that makes her sound like Hal from "2001." In "Why Are You" the hooky parts sound as artificially treated as any vocal trick from T-Pain. In places, so much air and echo whooshes around Carey's voice, she seems to hiss.

Isn't this how producers treat stars who can't sing?

Then again, non-singers regularly score big singles these days. So perhaps it was a savvy move for Carey to mimic their style.

Certainly, it's a cynical move, if hardly a new one for the singer. Carey's last CD, "E=MC2" also applied a heavy layer of gauze to her voice, though a less gloppy one than this time. Likewise, her last CD pushed her further into hip-hop's most melodically spare palette. The more years that pass following Carey's time with Tommy Motolla, the more she shuns her broad and tuneful ballads in favor of something melodically bare and rhythmically slovenly.

This time, Carey takes that m.o. to the extreme. Like some female equivalent to R.Kelly, most of the new songs feature no more than 3 notes a piece, repeated in a sing-songy drone. As sheer craft, it's so depressing, even something like Foreigner's "I Want To Know What Love Is" (which Carey covers at the CD's close) sounds like The Beatles by comparison.

To camouflage the bare tunes, Carey over-indulges her most mocked features: those rococo melismas and that shrieking tea-kettle whistle. One track, "Angel (The Prelude)" consists of nothing but the latter.

The instrumentation proves just as eagerly artificial. If there's a non-synthezed instrument here, it's keeping itself well hidden. Carey even carries over the impersonal nature of the CD to her lyrics. Despite the "Memoir" moniker, there isn't a single telling disclosure. Or so we have reason to presume. Though this is her first CD since she married Nick Cannon, only two tracks treat love as anything but an act of betrayal or a spur to longing.

The result may mean to mirror the youthful frustrations of hip-hop-inflected R&B but it's an antique version of it. R&B stars like Beyonce and Keisha Cole have lately progressed into something far more sophisticated than this. Coupled with the nervous over-correction of her voice, the result makes Carey seem like the proverbial aging actress who's trying so hard to cover her perceived flaws, all she does is call more attention to them.


Say what you want about the actual album and view of it, but that line about "this is how you treat singers who cant sing, is dead fucking on point", and i hate Jim Farber, but thats where he nailed it on the production
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falloff God, she's HORRIBLE, I don't know how anyone can take that screeching! I'd rather have 10 root canals all in the same day than have to listen to her. barf
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Reply #160 posted 09/29/09 7:38pm

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Bumped it in the car today and caught even more adlibs. Definitely a fun disc.
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Reply #161 posted 09/29/09 7:46pm

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i like it. will definitely have to listen to it uninterrupted to get a better opinion. it was a nice cool cloudy gray day and the over all mid to slow tempo mood of the album was perfect.

NOW the booklet was very self indulgent. kind of 'look at all the glamourous things i own and places i can go'. good for her; but it came across as bragging and in poor taste. IMO.

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Reply #162 posted 09/29/09 8:51pm

missmad

it comes out on friday here getting it can't wait!
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Reply #163 posted 09/29/09 10:55pm

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JackieBlue said:

Bumped it in the car today and caught even more adlibs. Definitely a fun disc.


i was just listening to Impossible and discovered a cute nod to Crybaby! it's at the 3:00 mark:

"ok so it's 5 am" (followed by a cute laugh).
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Reply #164 posted 09/30/09 5:17am

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PricelessHo said:

JackieBlue said:

Bumped it in the car today and caught even more adlibs. Definitely a fun disc.


i was just listening to Impossible and discovered a cute nod to Crybaby! it's at the 3:00 mark:

"ok so it's 5 am" (followed by a cute laugh).


I totally missed the Crybaby reference! I did think to myself, 'damn, that's early'. lol
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Reply #165 posted 09/30/09 7:54am

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I get paid Friday so i'll get it then lol
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Reply #166 posted 09/30/09 8:29am

piepie1976

9.99 at bestbuy.com. free shipping too.
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Reply #167 posted 09/30/09 8:35am

Copycat

I went to a big-box retailer early in the a.m. and picked up 2 copies. I feel that artists should be compensated for their craft. Her first-week sales projections look promising. Go get 'em, Mimi.
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Reply #168 posted 09/30/09 8:59am

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I'm lovin the tracks on new album, I already feel they're better than her last album. I'm buying this album tomorrow. I have all of her albums anyway,so. lol

How many times I gotta say the world album?^^ sheesh
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I've lost the use of my heart, But I'm still alive, Still looking for the life, The endless pool on the other side, It's a wild wild west, I'm doing my best, I'm a soldier of love, Every day and night, I'm soldier of love, All the days of my life.
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Reply #169 posted 09/30/09 10:17am

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ok Ribon's got me music
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Reply #170 posted 09/30/09 10:19am

Cinnie

I bought it the day it came out (yesterday), and I love it. Perfect autumn disc.
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Reply #171 posted 09/30/09 10:23am

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Cinnie said:

I bought it the day it came out (yesterday), and I love it. Perfect autumn disc.


TOTALLY.
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Reply #172 posted 09/30/09 10:33am

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Cinnie said:

I bought it the day it came out (yesterday), and I love it. Perfect autumn disc.


I think of you when I hear Ribbon and Candy Bling...i dont know why but I think of you everytime those come on. Ya'll should have heard me singing Ribbon at the top of my lungs int he car last night. Love it now. But still I fast forward the beginning...may have to cut and edit that out and do a fade in
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The album still goes downhill to me after It's A Wrap goes off.
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Reply #173 posted 09/30/09 10:53am

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I went to a big-box retailer early in the a.m. and picked up 2 copies. I feel that artists should be compensated for their craft. Her first-week sales projections look promising. Go get 'em, Mimi.


How well she's doing? Has HITS already put out an estimate on her debut sales?
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Reply #174 posted 09/30/09 11:27am

Copycat

No, I used a more reliable method of tallying CD sales: I spoke with a cashier at Target. biggrin
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Reply #175 posted 09/30/09 11:52am

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Copycat said:

No, I used a more reliable method of tallying CD sales: I spoke with a cashier at Target. biggrin



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Reply #176 posted 09/30/09 1:13pm

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Copycat said:

No, I used a more reliable method of tallying CD sales: I spoke with a cashier at Target. biggrin



falloff


Well actually is more reliable to talk to someone that sells the product, than a HITS estimate after 2 days?? for any cd not just mariah, hasnt anyone ever noticed that BS ?? they can predict your numbers day one?? hmmm thats because its all BS people, soundscan cspan its all about 60% of reality.

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Reply #177 posted 09/30/09 1:25pm

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As it was mentioned before Mariah is already pretty much done with this project, there wont be a tour, she is promoting a fragrance right now, so its not a priority, so if you think Prince walks away from things quick, it seems like she walked away before this was on the shelves

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Reply #178 posted 09/30/09 2:07pm

Cinnie

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No, I used a more reliable method of tallying CD sales: I spoke with a cashier at Target. biggrin



"her new CD is merrrvelous!"
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Reply #179 posted 09/30/09 4:51pm

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Cinnie said:

Copycat said:

No, I used a more reliable method of tallying CD sales: I spoke with a cashier at Target. biggrin



"her new CD is merrrvelous!"


lol
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