Michael's death has been ruled a homocide "injection by another".

His doctor, Dr. Conrad has told investigators that he gave MJ several sedatives in the hours before death culminating in the likely lethal injection of propofol....

So why in the BLEEP is this man not arrested already???


What are they waiting for?? My husband thinks nothing will happen to the doctor (they always get away with shyt). but I thought... "no, this is MICHAEL JACKSON we are talking about"

but maybe DH is right... is the LA police and DA office going to let Conrad walk??

prodigalfan said:

i'm assuming the police wanna get more evidence to make sure he's convicted. the world is watching and the last thing they wanna so is have him arrested and then let him walk.

the lapd fails most times and i thingk they're corrupt and they've made many mistakes already but i'm hoping that they're back on track and NAIL this guy cause if he doesn't go to jail someone is gonna kill him on the streets anyways...the man can't leave his house and rightfully so.

if there's no arrest TRUST that they'll be a riot at the downtown station.

There are MANY people to round up with this case plenty questioning from Pharmacies to other Doctors this has to tracked months to years back. Since aliases was involved it's hard to trace. Micheal's part in this needs to be pieced together also

just a speculative observation

mimi07 said:

I agree. I believe he will be arrested and charged. I also believe he will make some kind of deal and play guilty because if he goes to trial, he will be found guilty anyway and will have to serve the full sentence. I'm thinking he'll get 3-5 years in prison but will only serve maybe 2. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I don't think so. The more severe sentences go for people who commit intentional homicide, and though I believe this doctor was reckless and irresponsible, he really did not intentionally killed Michael.

I think LAPD SHOULD take their time and do things right instead of rushing and fucking it up more so than they have already.
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I hope a mob rips him apart.

prodigalfan said:

No need to rush. They are building a thorough case (hopefully). I really do think they'll get this one right. It's possible the crimes associated with Jackson aren't even his only offenses. They'll be combing through records, people he got drugs from... this could be a massive web of wrongdoing.
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He is not the only guilty party, I am sure the other doctor's involved too. He is just the fall guy for the others. He is just as guilty though.

The LAPD LYING saying he's the ONLY one they're investigating, if he's the only one, why ain't he arrested yet?

Exactly. Some other fools are gonna be charged too, it's expected.

Timmy84 said:

From what I heard on CNN lastnight, they do not want another OJ case. They want to make sure that everything is air tight.

shorttrini said:

I've been hearing that.

The Jackson family and his fans are looking for an excuse to make Michael look innocent and you are aware that Michael has been taking prescription pills for 25+ years. Over the years, his doctors were happy being on the MJ payroll. The final verdict to this case: Michael Jackson killed Michael Jackson.

medion said:

unless michael jackson injected himself with the lethal dose of propofol then michael jackson didn't not kill himself.



i watched some show about women behind bars months ago, this woman was a prostitute and she was doing drugs with a client and he asked her to give him some more heroine or something and she gave him some and then he got tired and she left but he ended up dying but she didn't know and she didn't mean to kill him but that doesn't matter and she got charged with the death.

my point is even if the person...in this case michael "asked" for it the person who administers it is responsible and in this case it's worse it's a DOCTOR and that doctor had already given him many sedatives within a short period of time...he should know better. i'm no MD and i even know what he did was negligent and reckless.plus he didn't even have all the proper equipment and then he waits over an hour to call 911. when someone is in cardiac arrest they have only minutes. michael was long gone by the time paramedics got to the house...they wanted to call it at the house but murray said no and made them work on mike and bring him to the hospital so there wouldn't be an immediate investigation. i mean the doctor didn't even wanna sign the death certificte.

that doctor f**ked up and he's wrong, he knows he was wrong for what he did...he had NO business giving someone anesthesia when he's a cardiologist. he had dollar signs in his eyes.

but of course there are other doctors involved but murray gave the stuff to michael and was with him when he passed so he does deserve most of the blame.
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Superstition said:

I hope you are right... because it is true Conrad or MJ had to have a source for the propofol bvecause it is not like a doctor can write a script for CVS pharmacy... that has to come from a hospital type pharmacy because propofol was never intended for home or outpatient use. Maybe some hospital pharmacy personel will get caught as well. I hope so.

medion said:

Not quite... MJ could not get propofol without help. and anyone who has access to propofol SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER! If it was only morphine or ativan etc... I could say okay because it is reasonable that a doctor could say that he assusmed he was the only one writing scripts or that he insturcted MJ to only take this much and MJ took that much... but when it comes to THAT sedative...


no one will get a pass. It is criminal that MJ was given access to propofol or was given TO him outside hospital setting. PERIOD! criminal.

Timmy84 said:

i think they said he's the only one they're investigating for the homicide, other are being investigated but id dea related i guess

mimi07 said:

wow, I didn't know that. So MJ had been dead for a while. I really believe this guy fell asleep when he should have been watching him. That is why the idiot should have had a team of nurses or some other critically trained medical personel to have shifts of watching him.

I don't understand that. I worked for a nursing agency once and our assignement was a little old lady who need home dialysis. This is something that could be done at home by the patient herself or her family but they were rich and not medically trained. That woman had around the clock nurses at her home... even if she was not due for a dialysis exchange. Around the clock nursing. That is what MJ doctor should have done as well. At least minimize the risk.

Maybe it was a case of assisted suicide.

Who knows.

And Murray just gave in to Michael's wishes.

That's why LAPD is not being so harsh on Murray.


Or their tests were inclusive, and they used the Propofol excuse to end all the speculation.
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prodigalfan said:

yeah they said michael flatlined when the paramedics tried checking on him and murray inisted they keep working on him and they worked on michael at the house for about 40 minutes before they went to the hospital and in the ambulance murray was sill working on michael.

if murray was truly regret full and if this was really an accident why couldn't he sign the damn certificate. WHY hasn't he talked to the family, a real man would face the family and explain what happened to their loved one and he could express his sorrow but he hasn't said ANYTHING to them but his ass could make a youtube video thanking supporters?????

something is NOT right here

mimi07 said:

That don't make sense. I'm sure they probably got enough evidence, they're lagging if that's the case and to me it seems they're making a lot of EXCUSES as to why they haven't cuffed him. I'm not buying it. They're investigating the others not necessarily for what they're doing with Murray but they think (or know) others played a role in what eventually happened to MJ. If they messed this up, this'll just be like what happened with Elvis. Real talk.

mimi07 said:

exactly also the nurses running to the warehouse at around 11 am, just sketchy shit
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this doctor is clearly a scapegoat. If he goes down I hope it's not alone. But I really hope he evades murder charges.

They got enough evidence to charge the dude with negligence, what more do they want? And why just him and not those "two women"? Come on LAPD, they're making it harder than it is. Really who runs shit over there? I shouldn't be surprised, they release female celebrities 48 seconds after they get convicted of committing a crime, lol.

suga10 said:

Sad, but these are my thoughts too.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

The way those cowards at the LAPD acting, he ain't gonna get shit. And you can FORGET murder charges.

Timmy84 said:

yeah except 10x worst, don't play with michael's international fans...he has fans everywhere... like the middle east ...where they bomb places ...i'm juss sayin lapd better know what's up.but seriously i'm tellin u if this guy walk free he WILL get killed by some fan.

this case is complicated and they know what's at stake so i won't get on the lapd too much yet.

PLUS knowing the jackson family they're not going to rest until they get to the bottom of this and rightfully so.

mimi07 said:

They know but they slow. Joe's got the belt ready for they asses.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

when murray accepted to do this he put himself in this position. he knew what could happened if something goes wrong, he;s the doctor and he knows what he's qualified to do and took it apon himself to do something not in his field.

YES there are other doctors involved that should get prosecuted and i think something will happen to them but murray is the main target and rightfully so since his actions directly lead to michael's passing
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Timmy84 said:

they'll probably fuck it up. They almost always do.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

BET he don't get charged. Watch.

suga10 said:

highly doubtful, but even so, that's illegal in the state of california. dr. kevorkian, an infamous 'assisted suicide' doctor in oregon, just got of prison for 2nd degree murder.

i think what the police are struggling with is whether this is manslaughter or 2nd degree murder.

manslaughter, with its unintentional gross negligence implications, is mitigated by the doctor's other actions. if dr. murray had injected mj, left and came back to find him in distress, then did everything in his power to assist him, and mj still died, then i can see manslaughter. the doctor was negligent by leaving him, not having the proper equipment to revive him, and using a medicine beyond its intended use.

but, for me, what elevate this to a higher charge is the fact that not only did he do the above, he then:

*did not call 911 asap
*did not inform the paramedics what he gave mj immediately
*made a series of phone calls while mj lied there dying
*lied about not knowing the address of the residence
*stalls for time by looking for security, prince
*did not tell anyone at the hospital what he gave mj
*did not want to speak to police about the circumstances of mj's death
*dropped out of sight for 2 days
*finally, after lawyering up, admitted to the propofol

moreover, if the rumors are true, mj was likely already dead when the paramedics arrived. i'm sorry but this scenario points to something more than manslaughter. even if he got *only* manslaughter, they're probably going to tack on obstruction of justice, inappropriate use of a drug, administering to (presumed) addict, and maybe other charges.