PPKING said:

I agree with that, they have been ripping MJ to sherds as live performer and vocalist saying that he COMPLETELY lost his voice while they forgot that the purple midget is not the same anymore...lol

The fact is that no one stays as they are Forever, people change when they get older, their voices change.....To insult other artists and to give prince an excuse is pretty much lame.

But prince has always been great preformer as whole , but as a vocalist he has always failed to impress me.
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Oh come the fuck on! TTD wanted to be Prince! He did!

From the very first time I ever saw him that was the impression I always had of him. He is talented and he can get funky. However, to not acknowledge that he was copying Prince so hard, that he even went with the name change move is just blind troll bullshit. He wanted to be Prince, he just discovered it would work better for him, if he cut that shit out and start trying to be himself. .

seeingvoices12 said:

The fanatics forget that Prince never was a great singer in the first place.

His chest voice is very limited.

When he must hit higher notes he must switch to head voice.

To compare Prince´s voice to alltime great singers like Marvin Gaye, Sananda, Michael Jackson,Al Green,Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Nat King Cole etc. is really absurd.

At least until mid 90s his limited chest voice was strong.
I was really shocked to see the Super Bowl Press Conference Show the other day.
His voice sounds weak and thin as if he lost or damaged a big part of his chest voice. But no wonder he gets older and the tours and the screaming all the years must effect his voice like any other singer.

His voice dosen´t sound so warm and rich right now. On the Montreux performance I hear that nowdays something is missing from his voice - the joy is gone he sounds very flat.
ANd the other thing is Prince as a medicore singer has very easy songs to sing. For example Take me with you, JOy Pepetition etc. because his chest range is very limited.Again he must switch to Head-Voice for songs like Kiss etc.

He cannot sing songs like My Way,Suspicous Minds, Dirty Diana, Billie Jean, Let´s get it on,If I can Dream etc-he could try and even if he could hit the notes(which I don´t believe-he must switch to Head Voice and that isn´t possible on songs like My Way)it would sound terrible because his voice isn´t strong enough.

So for the fanatics to critize Whitney -who sings much more difficult songs -

I say it again clean up your own backyard Prince´s best years as a live singer are gone.

Of course he is still a fantastic performer but his voice is much weaker now-he hasn´t the power to sing Baby I´m a star like in the old days. I guess that´s called life.
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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Prince always wanted to be 50% Jimi Hendrix and 50% Little Richard so what???

And by the way you´re wrong Sanandas heroes are the Beatles!!He always sings some of their songs in concert and praises the Beatles ver often in Concert.
If he is asked in interviews which artists he admires the name Prince does not drop he like more the Stones and the Beatles and you could tell his sound is much more inspired by Stones and Beatles than by Prince. Have you heard his latest albums? He sounds nothing like Prince-better Yes!!

The Prince magic is long gone. To even mentioning him nowdays in the same sentence like Marvin Gaye, Miles Davis, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra is absurd. All these people were magic on stage they had a magic aura-even if their last performances weren´t 100% good because they were sick like Elvis but they still had the magic touch to get to the crowd that is why they are legends.
I´m sorry to say but Prince has lost the magic. When I´m seeing him perform on Ellen he is just performing but it is nothing that moves people he is just a verygood 50 year old musician performing. And the crowd feels this.Remember his Leno performance with Feel Good Feel Better. Even a druged up Elvis who cannot hit notes anymore would get much more to the crowd to the soul of the crowd.
Prince on Leno was just lame-look at the crowd they fall asleep.-Imagine Marvin, Michael, Jimi performing and the crowd would react as they reactet while Prince was performing-impossible!

Can we PLEASE lock this BS thread?

^ i already asked that to no avail

Graycap23 said:

So you must not face the truth?? This is really kindergarden.

Please don´t critize Prince but than you go to Whitney Threads etc and bitch like no morning.
If Prince is such a great performer as you say he can take the heat like any other artist must on this board.

I´m bringing forward arguments why I like something or don´t. Since when is this bad style? If you cannot follow my arguments or refuse to understand me just leave the thread. No one is keeping you here.
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^ incomparable ;

you keep on repeating the same shit over and over again , it's pointless
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Dewrede said:

If you don´t like my argumentation than just leave the thread.

Since when must I argument to please you?????

Threads like this one goes no where.
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Purplestar88 said:

You´re right!!!

Threads Like "Whitney Houston"(replace it with any other artist), what's the big deal? are really going nowhere-

-but all


the " what´s the big deal?" threads are still here I guess only if you say something against prince than it is going nowhere....

^ no , if you keep repeating the same shit over and over again for
apparently no other reason than to rile people up this thread isn't going anywhere

i'm done with this thread now
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See for example this Prince performance:

Here you can see he isn´t really singing but more "speaking in the mic" and if that sounds thin and weak. The guitar and music is still fantastic I must say-but I´m talkng about the voice

and compare it with a recent Sananda Performance:
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PPKING said:

It does not matter if it is Prince, Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Or Whitney Houston. I see no point in " Who 's the better dancer and singer?" I also don't get why some people think they are a expert about who is a "real singer?". I like what I like. I don't feel the need to put anyone down to bring someone else up. Prince, MJ, Janet, Whitney have their own appeal.

You can really compare the voice of singers if they performe in the same place -the acoustic is the same!

So here is Sananda at the Jay Leno Show.




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Many Fans think his Dreamer performance sooo was powerful. I say ok if you only know Prince but let´s compare his "powerful performance with Sanandas powerful performance.Prince isn´t the only guy who rocks today as many hardcore fans claim.











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Where are you getting these Prince videos? I didn't know they could be posted here. Anyway, great to see them since I've never seen any of these performances. I think this thread is silly but it's worth watching the Prince performances if nothing else before it gets locked. Prince is like fine wine.

Sananda's first TV performance in February 1987




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PPKING said:

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He was focusing on the guitar as this is a guitar driven song. Dude you just keep showing your ignorance. In addtion, P also performed a great vocal version of SHOE on Jay Leno. Nothing is wrong with dude's voice.
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PPKING said:

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No body really has a problem with Whitney's voice. She has been critized for the bland musical arrangements. In addtion, I don't recall anyone claiming that MJ had lost his voice. Once again you have two artist who can sign their asses off but did not always have the best material to sing but they were pop singers and the public loves bland pop music.

Your just showing us you don't shit about what goes on at this board or with pop music in general by keeping this thread going. No one thinks P is "Luther Vandroos who could outsing MJ, Prince and TTD in one setting but to imply that TTD was ever at P's level is absurd. P just got finish doing maybe two of the best concerts of his carreer while charging an insane price.

TTD is never going to reach P's level as artist or performer not when he was young and not now.
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Graycap23 said:

Im shocked you asking this thread to be locked , this is all personal opinion at the end ,to ask mods to lock the thread because you don't like what you reading is silly, just like you have the right to criticize, other have that right too especially when the starter of the thread never insulted anyone personally, its all critics about music.

laurarichardson said:

Sorry to bust your bubble, Luther vandroos is not a diverse vocalist like Mj, the fact you say that MJ produces bland pop music says alot, or in way or another proves you don't know shit about pop music in general.

seeingvoices12 said:

This thread has made one thing clear, Terence Trent D'Arby's I mean Sananda's wife is an orger. Her username is PPKing

PPKING said:

Now this is a freakin' ridiculous comparison PPKING. Apples and Oranges.

That Prince song (Everlasting Now) was a straight up party tune in a James Brown vein. It's a funky groove piece played to make you shake ya ass, not showcase vocal ability.

If you would have chosen the Leno Somewhere Here on Earth performance from last May alongside Sananda's What Can I Do vocal you would have been comparing two songs of a similar style and P just blows S away in terms of presence, feel and execution.

And look, part of this silly comparison shit has to do with the vocal qualities that are just part of nature's bestowal.

S has a raspy instrument along the lines of Otis Redding. P wasn't built that way so how can you say he can't touch Sananda? Of course he can't.

But Sananda can't touch Prince on the falsetto side so big deal, they're even.

I like 'em both but Sananda doesn't do it for me anywhere near what P does.

Now back to topic!
The problem I´ve with Prince music in the 90s and 2000s is that everthing sounds not "real" what I mean with it I explain. For example the song "Dreamer" it sounds like a Song that I´ve heard before but better. He wants to create a real rock song but he fails. It sounds like a copy not as an original track.
The song dreamer has all elements it needs to be a great rock ballad but in the end it fails.Dreamer and a lot of his new songs lack soul, lack creativity it sounds blank something is missing.
Sananda on the other hand has created songs in the last couple of years which sounds authentic not like a blueprint-Prince rock songs are so formular you can tell that Prince sat down in the studio and forcing himself to write a rock song as good as Hendrix but he fails big. Compare his Dreamer with Vodoo Child, Freedom etc. It´s not even close the sound sucks big time.
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seeingvoices12 said:

I bet you've never been o a Luther concert in your lie. You must be out of your mind. Luther is far more diverse of a vocalist than MOST singers. If you'd frequented his concerts like I did, you would know this. He CHOSE to do the music he did. You might wanna stay in your lane on Luther discussions, buddy.
And I agree, MJ was not bland by any means.

you´re all crazy here!!

And please stay on topic!!!
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