Countthedays said:

Boy, the snobbery in this board is beyond me

Is it THAT impossible to enjoy Aretha & Chaka and turn around and enjoy Mariah & Whitney at the same time? I'm a living proof of that

You guys have such limited view on what music should/shouldn't be,

Harlepolis said:

They're used to only one form of music, lol... we grew up with Whitney & Mariah so it isn't that hard to dig both generations. But I guess some folks don't wanna hear that.

Timmy84 said:

Nah, I don't buy that excuse Its alright if people are set in their own ways, freedom of choice, right? But some of these snobs are dictating,,,no, trying to dictate on what should be music and shouldn't be.

And your opinion is valid, becaaaaause?

My mother is 48 years,,,,,but I've caught her listening to my collection alot(younger artists) its not the "old grouchy" factor, I think some people are just naturally snobs and close minded,,,,but of course they interpret it as "high standards".

Um,,,,RIGHT

Harlepolis said:

Totally

Talent is talent and regardless of whether you like her material or not Whitney HAD chops like no other. Whomever can't at least acknowledge her talent is just straight up hatin'.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

why do you always bring up other artists when somebody post something you dont like? just because a prince fan dont care for whitney dont mean you have to turn this into a whitney vs prince thread.

Harlepolis said:

Believe me I agree with you.

Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

That wasn't directed at you, baby

You know me and my typical "generally speaking" rant

lowkey said:

I don't get that shit either.

Harlepolis said:

Oh OK.

lowkey said:

i was refering to the poster and the attitude of some of these posters on the org who believe if you don't play 80,000 instruments like prince then you suck. I've seen it time and time again. the person who started this thread was obviously attempting to do that. you don't have to like her. However, Whitney may not be musician but she was an incredible vocalist who has left an impact on the music industry.
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trueiopian said:

right, and the people who bring her up claim to hate her..they are closet janet fans

Riverpoet31 said:

people didnt embrace janet until she got away from her family.you can say what you want about her singing or whatever but there is no way she could have sustained that kinda career based solely on her brother.the control album was successful because of the music and she carved out her own iconic career.

Riverpoet31 said:

Another lame group-thinking trait,,,,,throwing assumptions & pre-conceived ideas

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

you dont have to sell me on whitney, i've been a fan since she came out, i just dont understand the point in bringing up other artists when there is a debate about a particular artist. i dont look at artists and feel like they all have to sound a certain way or they're no good, my favorite female artists are chaka,janet,mary,sade and toni braxton , none of these women sound alike but i love their music. i do agree with you when it comes to alot of prince fans looking down at other artists if they dont write,produce,arrange,play all the instruments on their songs,listening to some of the garbage prince has recorded maybe he should have worked with other people (no offense prince fans, i just find him very overrated).

lowkey said:

exactely and that was what i was trying to say and point out. It's in every die hard fan base, not just mj fans.

Whitney had an excellent voice in the 80's and in
the early part of the 90's before her adventures into
drugs. It's just that the music she sung bored the hell out of me.
Her songs were borderline elevator music. In all seriousness i can't
think of any song by Whitney i would store in my catalog outside of
Heartbreak Hotel. I'm glad however she's getting her life back together
and doing something positive to give back to her longtime fans.

phunkdaddy said:

phunkdaddy said:

Co-signing than a motherfucka on the last part. Thank GOD!

phunkdaddy said:

I love a lot of her music so I can't agree with that but I agree with the rest. As far as vocals go, Whitney at her peak could not be topped. Her tone, delivery, the power of her voice- all untouchable as far as i'm concerned. She's probably my favorite female vocalist ever along with Tina Turner. I love me some Whitney and although i'm not too impressed with the new material i've heard so far from her, i'm glad she's back and getting her life & career back in order. It's nice to read positive things about her for a change.

SoulAlive said:

He makes Vainandy sound like a fuzzy teddy bear coiled up in a Downy dipped blanket !

I was never a true fan beyond her first album and a few live concerts. Still, I'm happy to see her back, and wish her well. It was jarring to see how close she came to offing herself with her decent into drugs. I remember seeing her on a tv tribute (was it to Michael?) and honestly thinking she was going to go the way of Garland and drop dead within days . It's good she's overcome that demon and is here for her kid, slowly rebuilding her career.

As for the slamming of her voice: honestly, what did folks expect??? The woman smoked the teeth out her own damned mouth for over a decade, I'm surprised she even still has a larynx let alone can open her mouth to sing. Hopefully with time and training she will be able to do more with her instrument. Clearly, it's severely damaged after all those years of drug use, but there are experts out there who can help her with this. Dame Shirley Bassey had rehabilitation, Celine Dion as well ( both being told that they would never sing again at one point).Hopefully Houston will get the help she needs so she can continue to do what she loves.

BlaqueKnight said:

Most of what you said is what my folks say about Whitney. And my dad is a funk dude, so he wouldn't put on some Whitney himself, but the voice was there.

Ottensen said:

He sure does! Vainandy's rants are humorous and tongue in cheek,but this one is downright cruel!

BlaqueKnight said:

You hit the nail on the head with this statement. When Whitney came out, she changed how black female pop stars were perceived. Sure, Janet was around, but Janet was a different kind of pop star. I'm not a big Whitney fan either, but I do respect her accomplishments.

Who else could have taken a 100 year old song and changed the entire mood of the country? Not to mention have a number one hit with it.

As talented as Whitney is.....my musical world would NOT be a single note different if I had NEVER heard her sing.

I'll leave it at that.

Graycap23 said:

Good way of putting things into perspective. I agree, also.

daPrettyman said:

whitney was actually before janet,(not including her 2 pre-control albums),janet came out and was the complete opposite of whitney. thats what made them both blow up they came along and it wasnt nobody else at the time doing what they did.i remember it was whitney who introduced the debut of 'what have you done for me lately' on friday night videos.