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Reply #1560 posted 09/18/09 8:04am

babybugz

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It doesn't take a rocket Scientist to tell that Michael did not look well , the way the clothes are hanging off of him etc. And his weight was not related to his death but people saying he look good no he does not . he was singing and dancing but sorry he did not need to be on nobody stage looking like that smh.
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Reply #1561 posted 09/18/09 9:19am

Timmy84

babybugz said:

It doesn't take a rocket Scientist to tell that Michael did not look well , the way the clothes are hanging off of him etc. And his weight was not related to his death but people saying he look good no he does not . he was singing and dancing but sorry he did not need to be on nobody stage looking like that smh.


Yeah his weight was not related to his death but he didn't look like a million bucks either.
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Reply #1562 posted 09/18/09 11:52am

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Pseudonyms In Cases Pose Challenge For Authorities

September 18



Before her death in 2007, model Anna Nicole Smith is believed to have used at least half a dozen different names to obtain powerful prescription medications.

In the case of Michael Jackson, who died June 25 after being administered a powerful sedative and other drugs, the pop star obtained prescriptions by what authorities believe was the use of at least 19 pseudonyms, including "Omar Arnold," " Jack London" and "Josephine Baker."

Trying to decode these fake names has proven a challenge for law enforcement -- even when they are investigating the death of a celebrity, as in the cases of Jackson and Smith.

But officials said they are trying new ways to identify prescription drug buyers who use pseudonyms before its too late.

The California attorney general's office this week touted improvements to the state's prescription medication tracking system will help authorities more easily identify those who use pseudonyms and aliases to illegally obtain controlled drugs as well as the doctors who enable them.

While the issue has been in the news because of the Jackson death investigation, officials said improper use of prescription drugs is a major problem that costs healthcare providers.

"We have so much [drug traffic] moving on the streets and we have so much moving in doctors' suites, and we have to attack both," Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown said.

It is illegal to prescribe drugs in the name of anyone but the intended user, and physicians found using pseudonyms have lost their medical licenses and faced criminal charges. But doctors and investigators were previously unable to track or cross reference pseudonyms or aliases used to obtain controlled medications.

Upgrades to the Controlled Substance Utilization Review and Evaluation System, known as CURES, allow healthcare professionals and law enforcement officials to make instant checks through an Internet-based system of more than 100 million entries for controlled substances -- including anti-anxiety medications, painkillers and sedatives -- prescribed in California.

Sara Simpson, special agent in charge with the state Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement, said at a news conference that the system will be a powerful investigative tool, quickly allowing investigators to connect the dots between doctors, drugs and patients in cases that involve abuse of powerful prescriptions.

Clues to abuses can be checked not only through names on prescriptions but through doctors, she said.

"These patient profiles can be run by the doctor's name," Simpson said. "So If we know a specific doctor is overprescribing or prescribing without pathology, then we can look at his patient record and see if those names actually are true and correct names or are they actually false people."

The Los Angeles Police Department is investigating several doctors who treated Jackson before his death. Last month, the LAPD requested Brown's office to join the review, which includes assistance researching the CURES databases.

In announcing his agency's involvement, Brown told The Times it was too soon to say whether the doctors would face criminal charges or lesser administrative fines or penalties.
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Reply #1563 posted 09/18/09 12:48pm

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One of my favs ever.....



I get emotional when i hear this song sad
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #1564 posted 09/18/09 1:06pm

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utopia7 said:

Timmy84 said:

Aww...



Poor Mike, I can see bones sticking out. sad
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JESUS CHRIST MICHAEL sad sad sad sad I just don't UNDER-STAND how anyone with eyes can carry on with rehearsal and not say Michael or Mr.Jackson you don't look well. are you okay ? etc and on top of that it's miraculous his body could withstand what he put it through dancing and sleep medication.


Maybe someone did,but alot of people don't want to tell other people how they are really feeling,so I'm sure that Michael would have just answered with "Yes,I'm fine". neutral
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #1565 posted 09/18/09 1:27pm

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I been jamming to this song music
I finally brought the destiny and triumph album the other day
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Reply #1566 posted 09/18/09 1:58pm

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I still miss him. He's in heaven I think.

sigh sigh


Janet looked amazing on the VMAs. LaToya looked dreadful on The View.
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Reply #1567 posted 09/18/09 4:39pm

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this song/video is beautiful. made me tear up. such innocence

"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1568 posted 09/18/09 5:21pm

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Is that really Elvis narrating?
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Reply #1569 posted 09/18/09 5:36pm

Timmy84

Arnotts said:

carlcranshaw said:


Is that really Elvis narrating?


No. lol
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Reply #1570 posted 09/18/09 5:38pm

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babybugz said:



I been jamming to this song music
I finally brought the destiny and triumph album the other day

Did you get the duo pack? I did and I love it!
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Reply #1571 posted 09/18/09 5:42pm

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no one answered why that elvis video was posted?
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1572 posted 09/18/09 6:13pm

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no it's not elvis, he was already dead, not a good idea in the otherwise quintessential elvis bio.
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Reply #1573 posted 09/18/09 6:21pm

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murph said:



And yet I've read many interviews where Quincy has said MJ was like a son to him...Let's be real here...MJ and Q had a complicated relationship...And many of the negative stuff that was said (MJ has been on record from friends with some pretty dismissive comments about Q) was done so in the '90s after the two had falling out after the Bad album...Indeed, their relationship was rocky, but they publicly still stated their love and respect for each other in later years...

All this to say that I've seen this Quincy-really-didn't-do-shit talk before...But usually it was found on MJ fan boards...For years the more hardcore MJ fans have attempted to take credit away from Q's impact on MJ's career...Frankly it's getting a little tired....
, sorry everybody.
Q was a great producer...And he had a huge impact on MJ becoming the global superstar we know today just as much as MJ helped Quincy become a superstar producer beyond his days as a jazz, early pop, and soul producer....

I agree.

Quincy was a great producer, it's annoying to see Quincy get bashed BUT it's also annoying to see people say that he did everything and that Michael was just the singer. I've seen people on this very board say that Quincy was probably the one who wrote Billie Jean and other songs lol

Quincy had a role and he filled it well and Michael did his part also well. I think certain things get exaggerated but in the end, their team made awesome music

I don't know about Quincy no longer censoring himself. He made some comments (which I posted) when Michael was ALIVE that were questionable but then the whole stuff about Michael's kids are fucked up.
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I love quincy, he and Michael were perfect for each other, hell no he didn't make Michael, Michael was a prodigy before he ever layed eyes on quincy. But...quincy brought Mikes music to it's peak, I don't like what he's been saying but no ones perfect. I don't believe he's senile either, i don't excuse people's behaviors like that. He just fucked up, it happens. He's still great. No man is an Island, it's common knowledge Prince took music outright from his bands and underlings, Duke Ellington did it but was very open and democratic about it. Frank Sinatra needed a band, songwriters, arrangers and producers and he was a genius as was Elvis who could only play rhythm and never wrote a song. Genius does not equal superman
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Reply #1574 posted 09/18/09 7:16pm

Serena

mozfonky said:

Frank Sinatra needed a band, songwriters, arrangers and producers and he was a genius as was Elvis who could only play rhythm and never wrote a song. Genius does not equal superman
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I recently bought an awesome Rat Pack DVD (I was brought up listening to all those good old guys, including Ellington, Satchmo, etc..) and Quincy was conducting the orchestra. Even though I'd read in the review below, about him being involved, I'd forgotten and was surprised when I saw him...plus he was so young!

Sammy actually got to do a full set, which was AMAZING! The bongo-only accompanied song blew me away. I'd never seen him perform like that, even with all the times I've seen him on various shows. Here's part of the review from Amazon that sold me on it:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/...CK8ZAS0CNF

"The show is in black and white, but since it was recorded by a major television network for the purposes of making a documentary on Sinatra, the camerawork and sound are quite good. Again, it is easily the highest quality video and sound recording of essentially the same act they did for years in Vegas and at the Villa Venice in Chicago for Sam Giancana.

(Incidentally--The charity that this show was meant to raise cash for was a halfway house for ex-cons in St. Louis called Dismas House.)

There are a few twists that make this show unique from the shows the Rat Pack did at the Sands in Las Vegas. A very young Johnny Carson (just a few years into his gig replacing Jack Paar as host of the Tonight Show) is filling in on short notice for Joey Bishop as Master of Ceremonies. A bit nervous but good natured about the gang's shennanigans, he fills in ably.

Peter Lawford, by this time falling out of favor with Sinatra, is not even mentioned, much less seen --in the show.

A rather young Quincy Jones (referred to as "Q") conducts the orchestra.

Sammy Davis clearly steals the show. Typically, in the Vegas and Chicago nightclub acts, Frank and Dean playfully interrupt Sammy throughout his act whether he is singing, dancing or attempting to do impressions. Here, they actually allow him to do his full act with virtually no interuption. What a treat. Sammy demonstrates a number of popular dance steps, does some marvelous, passionate singing numbers, and also sings Be-Bom accapella solely with a bongo accompianing him. He also gets through most of his celebrity impersonations (he impersonates various stars like Nat King Cole, Marlon Brando, Billy Eckstein etc. singing parts of "One for My Baby") without interuption until the very end. What a remarable talent Davis was."
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Reply #1575 posted 09/18/09 8:08pm

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EXCLUSIVE: Rabbi Boteach Releasing Book Based On Michael Jackson Interviews
by Gary Rosenblatt
Editor and Publisher

NBC Dateline is planning a one-hour special this coming week on Rabbi Shmuley Boteach’s latest book, based on 30 hours of taped interviews he did with Michael Jackson more than eight years ago – interviews he describes as “raw, intimate, revealing.”

But the rabbi won’t be watching the show because it is scheduled to be broadcast on Friday night (Sept. 25). Which is only fitting because Shabbat, and its observance, is what strengthened the relationship between the rabbi and the late pop star, and it will be a theme in the television broadcast.

The program will explain that the rabbi was taped in advance because he could not participate on Shabbat. And Rabbi Boteach, an author, lecturer and host of the television show,
“Shalom in the Home,” will note that he and Jackson shared an interest in and commitment to turning Friday night into family night throughout the country, encouraging Americans to make time for families to eat and talk together without distractions.

In addition, NBC has agreed to broadcast at least five 30-second public service announcements featuring prominent figures, including Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Newark Mayor Cory Booker, and TV personalities Kathy Lee Gifford and Dr. Phil (McGraw), endorsing Rabbi Boteach’s national initiative to strengthen families by promoting meaningful time spent together on Friday nights.

The rabbi heads an organization called This World: The Values Network, which seeks to bring Jewish values to mainstream American culture.

“Michael loved coming to our house for Friday night dinners with his kids,” Rabbi Boteach told The Jewish Week. The rabbi, who met Jackson 10 years ago through a mutual friend, mentalist Uri Geller, said the pop star and his children behaved completely normally, and seemed to enjoy the informality and warmth of the Boteach home, in Englewood, NJ, where they could act naturally.

“We started our conversations on Shabbat, the only day of the week with no intrusions or distractions. He had nothing but distractions in his life, he was always so busy.”

In the summer of 2000, and for about 10 months, the two men met regularly during the week, and Rabbi Boteach interviewed Jackson about his life, his views on celebrity and what motivated him.

The rabbi planned to publish the book, at Jackson’s request, but then shelved the idea after Jackson was arrested in 2003 on charges of child molestation.

After Jackson died suddenly in June, Rabbi Boteach decided to go ahead with the book, titled “Michael Jackson Tapes: A Tragic Icon Reveals His Soul in Intimate Conversation,” to be published by Vanguard next week.

Why now?

Rabbi Boteach said the primary reason is because Jackson very much wanted it published. In addition, “this is a great morality tale” about the dangers of celebrity and excess, the rabbi said, that applies not only to Jackson but to American culture as well.

“And in the words of Hillel, if not now, when?”

Rabbi Boteach said that “whether you loved or hated Michael Jackson, this was a tragic waste of a life. He had a mixed history, he reached many people and he may have been guilty of terrible things, but that doesn’t mean he had nothing to say. He’s never given credit for becoming very introspective about life in general, and his own life. I want people to hear him in his own voice and judge him based on the full facts.”

The main body of the book is “60,000 words of Michael” being interviewed, Rabbi Boteach said, with little commentary. It also includes an introduction by the rabbi offering an overview of their friendship, which cooled after Jackson’s 2003 arrest, and an afterward on celebrity, featuring what the rabbi calls his own “mea culpa” about his personal need for attention.

Rabbi Boteach said Jackson told him that what he sought from the time he became a child star was neither wealth nor fame, but love, especially from his father.

“Michael represented an extreme form of brokenness,” the rabbi said, noting that, like American culture, “he had everything but was often depressed, living in a world that was increasingly sexualized. He had the resources to take his dysfunction to a particular extreme, but we may be headed in the
same direction.”

A second book of the taped interviews, focusing on why Jackson sought refuge in childhood as an adult, is scheduled to be published next year.

http://www.thejewishweek....ional.html

more from michael's shady ass friends
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1576 posted 09/18/09 8:12pm

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^ cha ching
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Reply #1577 posted 09/18/09 8:16pm

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Yes, and of course I'm a huge fan of Sammy. I saw on youtube that one of the reasons his name isn't out there as much is that the IRS owns the name and they don't do entertainment stuff. Tragic. One of the greatest entertainers to ever grace the planet, bad enough he had to play humble to make a name for his brilliance, now he's in danger of being forgotten about.
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Reply #1578 posted 09/18/09 8:27pm

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eek damn....


"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1579 posted 09/18/09 8:40pm

Timmy84



It's tragic we never seen him onstage playing any instrument.
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Reply #1580 posted 09/18/09 8:41pm

mimi07

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i miss his tacky look at me jackets sad





so freakin cute!
[Edited 9/18/09 20:43pm]
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Reply #1581 posted 09/18/09 8:42pm

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yeah it would have been nice to see him play



"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1582 posted 09/18/09 8:49pm

Timmy84

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yeah it would have been nice to see him play





I wonder who's dude with him. hmmm
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Reply #1583 posted 09/18/09 8:56pm

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i should have probably posted this also wink


[Edited 9/18/09 20:56pm]
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1584 posted 09/18/09 8:57pm

Timmy84

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i should have probably posted this also wink


[Edited 9/18/09 20:56pm]


Oh that's him with MJ? Cool.
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Reply #1585 posted 09/18/09 9:04pm

mimi07

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yeah
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1586 posted 09/18/09 9:27pm

Serena

mozfonky said:

Yes, and of course I'm a huge fan of Sammy. I saw on youtube that one of the reasons his name isn't out there as much is that the IRS owns the name and they don't do entertainment stuff. Tragic. One of the greatest entertainers to ever grace the planet, bad enough he had to play humble to make a name for his brilliance, now he's in danger of being forgotten about.



eek I never knew that, it's horrible!

btw...you might want to pick up that DVD, it gave me chills!
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Reply #1587 posted 09/18/09 11:44pm

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PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
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Reply #1588 posted 09/19/09 1:42am

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those are great pics of mike with the guitar. nod cool
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Reply #1589 posted 09/19/09 5:27am

Arnotts

Timmy84 said:

Arnotts said:


Is that really Elvis narrating?


No. lol

Hey mad I didn’t know when it was released. I thought it could have been a documentary made just before he died or something
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