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PrintableTimmy84 said: Aww...
Poor Mike, I can see bones sticking out. 
[Edited 9/17/09 0:59am] Yeah | |
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purplesweat said: dag said: Looking at the footage, it does look weird. I´ve never seen Mike move this way. His actions are too...over the top. Like he's trying way too hard even for a rehearsal (or especially for one). Some people on other sites said it's like a Broadway style dance and too effeminate for him (not that he wasn't a little bit but his MOVES never really were). Maybe this was one of those "walk throughs" that he didn't think the world would see. I read that MJ would "coast" through rehearsals and be Michael Jackson for the actual performance. "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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carlcranshaw said: purplesweat said: His actions are too...over the top. Like he's trying way too hard even for a rehearsal (or especially for one). Some people on other sites said it's like a Broadway style dance and too effeminate for him (not that he wasn't a little bit but his MOVES never really were). Maybe this was one of those "walk throughs" that he didn't think the world would see. I read that MJ would "coast" through rehearsals and be Michael Jackson for the actual performance. 
With the walk, it seemed like he was just joking around and having fun  [Edited 9/17/09 8:38am] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Timmy84 said: It's his comments that make me disappointed. If you're a friend of someone, I wouldn't be saying some of the stuff he said. Kind of friend is that?
Actually, Quincy was not one to hold his tongue even when MJ was alive....I think if MJ had more honest, keeping-it-real friends like Quincy, we would still have the greatest entertainer of all times walking this earth... | |
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ENTREVISTA: QUINCY JONES
"Michael Jackson no tenía tanto talento" IKER SEISDEDOS - Madrid - 14/09/2009 Translation: Interview:Quincy Jones "Michael Jackson did not have much talent" P. Did you thought he would be able to make the 50 concerts? R. No. I remember being in London where it sold out in a couple of hours. I called, was excited, beside himself. He said, "I'll do it for the kids." It was the last time we spoke. P. Did he talk about his children? R. Always. All the time. P. What's like to see canceled tribute concert in Vienna that his brother Jermaine has endeavored to ride? R. They asked for my participation. Everyone seems to organize concerts in memory of Michael. Do not count me out. The past is not for me. At the bottom of my heart I am a jazz musician and jazz musicians are not repeated. P. Was there competition between you? R. That’s really good! Of course not. I've worked with Louis Armstrong, Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Billie Holiday, Aretha Franklin and, above all, Ray Charles ... Think they'd be jealous of Michael Jackson? Michael did not have much talent. It was big, but did not play in the league of those just mentioned. I have seven children and participated in 40 movies. No time to waste on nonsense. P. Is it true that after his death you stated that Michael Jackson never wanted to be black? R. I would not get into that subject. P. Would you say died from a negligence medical? R. Even less I decide on that. P. Tried help? R. It was impossible. When you get so big, you stop listening. The big problem is the people around someone like that. They spend 24 hours saying how wonderful he is. It is not easy to overcome that. P. When I saw him last? R. I'll tell you better the first. He was 12. We were at home of Sammy Davis Jr. The whole interview in Spanish: http://www.elpais.com/art...icul_1/Tes "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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murph said: Timmy84 said: It's his comments that make me disappointed. If you're a friend of someone, I wouldn't be saying some of the stuff he said. Kind of friend is that?
Actually, Quincy was not one to hold his tongue even when MJ was alive....I think if MJ had more honest, keeping-it-real friends like Quincy, we would still have the greatest entertainer of all times walking this earth... I don't know... Quincy once said that he and Michael weren't really friends, just business associates he also said he didn't know Michael, he knew the music.... [Edited 9/17/09 10:07am] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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harbars said: let's not get to carried away with the Q bashing. Sure he said some stupid fucking shit of late and needs a slap for that. but u know the cat is real old now and prolly just a few marbles are running loose up in that noggin.
His talent remains undisputed. don't forget his long and destinguised career before Mike, and some of his killer albums, film scores and big band prodcutions. he for sure made a huge contribution as (co)producer with Mike, assembling musicians, helping select tracks, tracking the album, co-writing a track, and running the floor. getting the best performances and getting mike to open up songwriting wise. ain't no little deal what he did on those albums. And rod and the bros. johnson has no input on bad (LMAO at that) I didn't say The Johnsons and Rod had input on Bad. They did on OTW and Rod was heavily involved in Thriller. Bad was mostly MJ, Philliganes, Bottrell, and Quincy and his team [Edited 9/17/09 10:11am] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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What a cutie.
 "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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bboy87 said: murph said: Actually, Quincy was not one to hold his tongue even when MJ was alive....I think if MJ had more honest, keeping-it-real friends like Quincy, we would still have the greatest entertainer of all times walking this earth... I don't know... Quincy once said that he and Michael weren't really friends, just business associates he also said he didn't know Michael, he knew the music.... [Edited 9/17/09 10:07am] Indeed he did say that. Hey, Maybe Micahel wanted a friend to "keep it real" with him, but Quincy turned his back the second it was no longer cool to know him, so even if he reached out I don't think he would have got a response. | |
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bboy87 said: murph said: Actually, Quincy was not one to hold his tongue even when MJ was alive....I think if MJ had more honest, keeping-it-real friends like Quincy, we would still have the greatest entertainer of all times walking this earth... I don't know... Quincy once said that he and Michael weren't really friends, just business associates he also said he didn't know Michael, he knew the music.... [Edited 9/17/09 10:07am] And yet I've read many interviews where Quincy has said MJ was like a son to him...Let's be real here...MJ and Q had a complicated relationship...And many of the negative stuff that was said (MJ has been on record from friends with some pretty dismissive comments about Q) was done so in the '90s after the two had falling out after the Bad album...Indeed, their relationship was rocky, but they publicly still stated their love and respect for each other in later years... All this to say that I've seen this Quincy-really-didn't-do-shit talk before...But usually it was found on MJ fan boards...For years the more hardcore MJ fans have attempted to take credit away from Q's impact on MJ's career...Frankly it's getting a little tired.... Q was a great producer...And he had a huge impact on MJ becoming the global superstar we know today just as much as MJ helped Quincy become a superstar producer beyond his days as a jazz, early pop, and soul producer.... | |
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murph said: bboy87 said: I don't know... Quincy once said that he and Michael weren't really friends, just business associates he also said he didn't know Michael, he knew the music.... [Edited 9/17/09 10:07am] And yet I've read many interviews where Quincy has said MJ was like a son to him...Let's be real here...MJ and Q had a complicated relationship...And many of the negative stuff that was said (MJ has been on record from friends with some pretty dismissive comments about Q) was done so in the '90s after the two had falling out after the Bad album...Indeed, their relationship was rocky, but they publicly still stated their love and respect for each other in later years... All this to say that I've seen this Quincy-really-didn't-do-shit talk before...But usually it was found on MJ fan boards...For years the more hardcore MJ fans have attempted to take credit away from Q's impact on MJ's career...Frankly it's getting a little tired.... Q was a great producer...And he had a huge impact on MJ becoming the global superstar we know today just as much as MJ helped Quincy become a superstar producer beyond his days as a jazz, early pop, and soul producer.... Maybe he's senile.  | |
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Timmy84 said: murph said: And yet I've read many interviews where Quincy has said MJ was like a son to him...Let's be real here...MJ and Q had a complicated relationship...And many of the negative stuff that was said (MJ has been on record from friends with some pretty dismissive comments about Q) was done so in the '90s after the two had falling out after the Bad album...Indeed, their relationship was rocky, but they publicly still stated their love and respect for each other in later years... All this to say that I've seen this Quincy-really-didn't-do-shit talk before...But usually it was found on MJ fan boards...For years the more hardcore MJ fans have attempted to take credit away from Q's impact on MJ's career...Frankly it's getting a little tired.... Q was a great producer...And he had a huge impact on MJ becoming the global superstar we know today just as much as MJ helped Quincy become a superstar producer beyond his days as a jazz, early pop, and soul producer.... Maybe he's senile. Or maybe, like most older folks, Quincy no longer feels he has to censor himself ... | |
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A Longer version.
Lets Just say that this video is a slap to the people who said that Mj lost his voice, you can tell that the voice is still there...R.I.P MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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murph said: bboy87 said: I don't know... Quincy once said that he and Michael weren't really friends, just business associates he also said he didn't know Michael, he knew the music.... [Edited 9/17/09 10:07am] And yet I've read many interviews where Quincy has said MJ was like a son to him...Let's be real here...MJ and Q had a complicated relationship...And many of the negative stuff that was said (MJ has been on record from friends with some pretty dismissive comments about Q) was done so in the '90s after the two had falling out after the Bad album...Indeed, their relationship was rocky, but they publicly still stated their love and respect for each other in later years... All this to say that I've seen this Quincy-really-didn't-do-shit talk before...But usually it was found on MJ fan boards...For years the more hardcore MJ fans have attempted to take credit away from Q's impact on MJ's career...Frankly it's getting a little tired.... Q was a great producer...And he had a huge impact on MJ becoming the global superstar we know today just as much as MJ helped Quincy become a superstar producer beyond his days as a jazz, early pop, and soul producer.... Just say what he said was stupid and laughable as hell,admit it, dammit For quincy to say that Mj didn't have much talent when he was the one who wrote and comopsed his songs is really stupid , Mj was capable and incredible songwriter, I will never ever deny quincy's touch on Mj records, but it was Mj who created timeless melodies and classics like billie jean and beat it, obviously the age factor affected his brain, I lost alot of respect for him, because he said all of that after Mj's death, why after his death,thats my point.MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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Timmy84 said: Aww...
Poor Mike, I can see bones sticking out.
[Edited 9/17/09 0:59am] Ridiculous  | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Aww...
Poor Mike, I can see bones sticking out.
[Edited 9/17/09 0:59am] Ridiculous What's ridiculous? | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: Ridiculous What's ridiculous? lol the way he looks smh , they trying to fool people with this movie | |
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seeingvoices12 said: A Longer version.
Lets Just say that this video is a slap to the people who said that Mj lost his voice, you can tell that the voice is still there...R.I.P true. there'll never be a voice like his. | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: What's ridiculous? lol the way he looks smh , they trying to fool people with this movie Oh, lol. I agree. It is ridiculous. Obviously something was bothering Michael in his final months. | |
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In the Halperin book I just read MJ really didn't want to do the tour because he would never be able to clear his debt and he wanted out.
In another BIO the Taraborrelli update it was describing MJ's later issues with Sony and how his spending habits overcame him. "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: lol the way he looks smh , they trying to fool people with this movie Oh, lol. I agree. It is ridiculous. Obviously something was bothering Michael in his final months. yea.. [Edited 9/17/09 14:29pm] | |
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Didn't Michael still sell 100 million albums on his own after leaving Q? | |
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I'm sorry but Michael reminds me of this in that Human Nature clip. He is THAT skinny.
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StillDirrty said: I'm sorry but Michael reminds me of this in that Human Nature clip. He is THAT skinny.
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.... [Edited 9/17/09 15:21pm] "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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seeingvoices12 said: A Longer version.
*I'm sorry Michael....I love you.....* But, LOL! @ 0:10 - 0:11. 
Seriously though, his voice sounds splendid.  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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babybugz said: StillDirrty said: I'm sorry but Michael reminds me of this in that Human Nature clip. He is THAT skinny.
 Oh no! What a comparison. I hate to admit, but I unfortunately can see what you mean.  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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dag said: What a cutie.
 cute, look at that smile"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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StillDirrty said: I'm sorry but Michael reminds me of this in that Human Nature clip. He is THAT skinny.
FORCE!!!! i don't think it's that bad...is it?
he's always been skinny, sometimes more than others [Edited 9/17/09 15:57pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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