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Reply #990 posted 09/08/09 6:57am

suga10

How come this issue is still being discussed about the kids biology?

Who cares.

MJ is their father regardless of whether he's biologically or not related to them.
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Reply #991 posted 09/08/09 7:17am

Timmy84

suga10 said:

How come this issue is still being discussed about the kids biology?

Who cares.

MJ is their father regardless of whether he's biologically or not related to them.


Bottom line now can we PLEASE bury this? Nice of RIGHT ON to do this, thanks for the cover, Copycat. smile

Anxious to see what Janet and her crew are going to do for MJ at the VMAs! But knowing me, I'll rather see it on YouTube, can't stand MTV these days but PROPS to Ms. Jackson! biggrin
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Reply #992 posted 09/08/09 7:33am

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‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #993 posted 09/08/09 8:04am

Copycat

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THIS IS IT Official Movie Poster




I'm diggin' this poster, so much so that I'm in search of a larger image.
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Reply #994 posted 09/08/09 8:50am

susi

Was Omer Bhatti at Michael Jackson's funeral?
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Reply #995 posted 09/08/09 8:59am

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dag said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I think MJ's kids are mixed...they just aint mixed with him. confused

Just a question to those who don´t think these are not Mike´s kids. Mike has always been very open about the fact that he wanted big family, at least 10 children, He wanted to beat his father. He stated it many times, in his autobiography, in his interviews and even when Bashit asked him when was he gonna have the next child, he said "I wish I could have it today". Now if MJ was using surrogates to have children, WHY did he have only 3 children? If those kids are his (as I believe) and he cared about who he was going to have kids with meaning he wanted to trust and know that person etc., than it is understandable, but how do you explain that if you believe he used surrogate mothers and fathers, cause this way he could have easily had 20 children, if he wanted.



Because surrogates cost money and they can keep costing money as we saw with Debbie Rowe. Add to that the money it takes to keep things private (especially true paternity) and it becomes increasingly more difficult to have a large brood without the press all up in your business. Look at the flack that Angelina and Brad get for adopting their kids. Someone of MJ's stature and known addiction to cosmetic surgery would have a really hard time trying to procure 20 kids. Look, at the end of the day I don't care how he got them because he is now gone but at the time when those babies first popped up and the circumstances under which they popped up, it just seemed to me MJ was still dealing with issues about his appearance. He also once said he wanted to adopt children from every continent but of course that never happened and was never going to.
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Reply #996 posted 09/08/09 9:19am

Copycat

Four thread pages of paternity speculation and discussion on multi-racial features or the lack thereof in the children. Talk about beating a dead horse. confused
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Reply #997 posted 09/08/09 9:30am

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I haven't been on the org for a couple of days due to my computer being in the shop so before I say anything, Hey! lol


Anyway

As I see both the Michael Jackson RIP and the Michael Jackson Reality Check on the first page, I wanted to say this:

With all that's been said, I can honestly say that I don't really care about the bullshit being said because I choose to remember Michael my own way

I didn't see the sinister or manipulative side or this creepiness some people here in both threads are raving about. I simply saw a good man. A man with flaws, yes, but a good man.

I don't believe nor care about the allegations, rumors, or unfounded speculation because at the day, that's all it is: unfounded. In fact, alot of it contradicts itself

Neverland was a cool place to me. I wanted to go lol People may have thought it was weird, but hey, Donald Trump has everything in his house gold plated. I've seen celebrities have some unique shit at their houses, and to me, Michael was no different.


I don't care about the DNA of his kids. People saw it as weird but I saw it differently. I saw a guy who actually WANTED to be a dad. In the industry that Michael worked in, There are guys who have kids and will flat out deny them and refuse to support them. People don't talk about Karl Malone being 19 and getting a 13 year old pregnant and refusing to acknowledge that son who is now college football player or those twins in the WNBA

The countless rappers and singers with numerous kids that don't take care of or acknowledge, but people constantly wanna talk about Michael Jr, Paris, and Blanket's "real" father. Bullshit

I saw a father who loved his kids and 3 kids who loved their father. And that's what counts at the end of the day

I don't give a damn about the allegations. 1993, a grand jury didn't indict him even after all the bad press and the DA's office making the man strip so they can take pictures of his body (I don't think we can comprehend how humiliating and dehumanizing that is)

2005's case: you already know the story


I don't care.


No matter how much one think it's "illogical" for me to think that way, but it's my attitude and thoughts on it. I'm sorry but after June 25th, I don't care.

Michael Joesph Jackson, to me, was a good guy, talented, unique, but very damaged, but what can you expect after being through what he went through?

and that's how I choose to remember him. He was the guy who made me love music, dance, and entertainment

I respected him, I admired him, He was the coolest muthafucka in the world


THAT's how BBoy87 remembers his favorite artist, and it ain't gonna change any time soon lol
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Reply #998 posted 09/08/09 9:47am

Timmy84

Copycat said:

Four thread pages of paternity speculation and discussion on multi-racial features or the lack thereof in the children. Talk about beating a dead horse. confused


Shit, and Prince's picture being posted eleven million times. rolleyes Makes me wanna rip that picture. Just so they can see MJ's eyeballs in that kid?! Talk about obsessive. Michael Jackson will be pissed with all of us discussing shit like that.
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Reply #999 posted 09/08/09 9:54am

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Timmy84 said:

Cut the race crap. The shit's getting old.



Absof*ckinlutely.

fryingpan
"My God it's full of Stars"
Indigo Club, September 21st 2008, 4.24am
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Reply #1000 posted 09/08/09 11:18am

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Copycat said:




Mary J. Blige to Lead Jackson Tribute in Vienna
September 8, 2009


Artists including R&B stars Mary J. Blige, Akon and Chris Brown as well as veterans Natalie Cole and Sister Sledge will perform at the Vienna Michael Jackson tribute concert later this month, organizers said on Tuesday.

Thirteen artists so far have been confirmed to perform at the concert, set in front of Vienna's Schoenbrunn castle on September 26, Michael's brother Jermaine Jackson and producer Georg Kindel told reporters at a news conference in Vienna.

Jermaine will sing a virtual duet with his late brother, who died from a drug overdose on June 25 and will be brought to life by video projections on the concert stage.
All the artists will sing Michael Jackson's greatest hits and will be supported by the band and dancers which were to accompany Jackson on his planned "This Is It" series of comeback concerts in London before the king of pop died in June.

In a grand finale, all of them will sing "We Are The World" and "Heal The World" together, Kindel said. Jackson's children and his mother Katherine will also be in Vienna.

A total of 20 to 25 artists are expected for the concert. More names will be revealed at separate news conferences in London on Wednesday and in Berlin on Thursday, Kindel said.

Tickets for the concert are being sold in stages for 63 to 518 euros ($91-$745) each. More than half have been sold.


http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...id=8513014



That will be both creepy,and cool. Is this going to be televised?
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #1001 posted 09/08/09 11:20am

Timmy84

EmeraldSkies said:

Copycat said:




Mary J. Blige to Lead Jackson Tribute in Vienna
September 8, 2009


Artists including R&B stars Mary J. Blige, Akon and Chris Brown as well as veterans Natalie Cole and Sister Sledge will perform at the Vienna Michael Jackson tribute concert later this month, organizers said on Tuesday.

Thirteen artists so far have been confirmed to perform at the concert, set in front of Vienna's Schoenbrunn castle on September 26, Michael's brother Jermaine Jackson and producer Georg Kindel told reporters at a news conference in Vienna.

Jermaine will sing a virtual duet with his late brother, who died from a drug overdose on June 25 and will be brought to life by video projections on the concert stage.
All the artists will sing Michael Jackson's greatest hits and will be supported by the band and dancers which were to accompany Jackson on his planned "This Is It" series of comeback concerts in London before the king of pop died in June.

In a grand finale, all of them will sing "We Are The World" and "Heal The World" together, Kindel said. Jackson's children and his mother Katherine will also be in Vienna.

A total of 20 to 25 artists are expected for the concert. More names will be revealed at separate news conferences in London on Wednesday and in Berlin on Thursday, Kindel said.

Tickets for the concert are being sold in stages for 63 to 518 euros ($91-$745) each. More than half have been sold.


http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...id=8513014



That will be both creepy,and cool. Is this going to be televised?


That sounds like a Natalie Cole/Lisa Marie thing when they sung with the digital versions of their fathers. confused I imagine they'll sing "Smile". confused
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Reply #1002 posted 09/08/09 11:34am

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Timmy84 said:

EmeraldSkies said:




That will be both creepy,and cool. Is this going to be televised?


That sounds like a Natalie Cole/Lisa Marie thing when they sung with the digital versions of their fathers. confused I imagine they'll sing "Smile". confused


I liked the video that Natalie Cole did to go with the song that she sang with her father,I think in a way it was something that was comforting to her. I did'nt realize that Lisa Marie did this though,I never saw or heard anything of it. I'm sure that "Smile" will be the song of choice,I just hope that Jermaine is also doing as a way of healing,and not to try to promote himself. nod
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Reply #1003 posted 09/08/09 11:36am

Timmy84

EmeraldSkies said:

Timmy84 said:



That sounds like a Natalie Cole/Lisa Marie thing when they sung with the digital versions of their fathers. confused I imagine they'll sing "Smile". confused


I liked the video that Natalie Cole did to go with the song that she sang with her father,I think in a way it was something that was comforting to her. I did'nt relaize that Lisa Marie did this though. I never saw or heard anything of it. I'm sure that "Smile" will be the song of choice,I just hope that Jermaine is doing also as a way of healing,and not to try to promote himself. nod


Yeah that was cool @ the Natalie/Nat thing. Least it was 35 years after Nat's death. Yeah Lisa did it around 2006, she sung his "In the Ghetto" joint. And right on @ Jermaine doing it for healing, I definitely hope it will be, and for some reason I wanna believe it is. nod
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Reply #1004 posted 09/08/09 11:51am

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Why doesn't Jermaine go work at Pep Boys and pay child support for healing?
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Reply #1005 posted 09/08/09 11:53am

Timmy84

carlcranshaw said:

Why doesn't Jermaine go work at Pep Boys and pay child support for healing?


You forget that this dude's hair isn't what Pep Boys or any car/oil-influenced company NEEDS. They'll tell him to cut it off and he would reject saying he NEEDS this. lol
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Reply #1006 posted 09/08/09 12:11pm

EmeraldSkies

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carlcranshaw said:

Why doesn't Jermaine go work at Pep Boys and pay child support for healing?


What does him paying child support have to do with him dealing with the loss of his brother confuse
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Reply #1007 posted 09/08/09 12:18pm

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Timmy84 said:

carlcranshaw said:

Why doesn't Jermaine go work at Pep Boys and pay child support for healing?


You forget that this dude's hair isn't what Pep Boys or any car/oil-influenced company NEEDS. They'll tell him to cut it off and he would reject saying he NEEDS this. lol


Yeah that's true. I can see suing Pep Boys after Jermaine messed up my oil change and had the whole vehicle covered in oil. Then he'll come out singing "Smile though your car is f***** up."
‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #1008 posted 09/08/09 12:21pm

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Four thread pages of paternity speculation and discussion on multi-racial features or the lack thereof in the children. Talk about beating a dead horse. confused



Well these are the hot topics:

1. Who really killed MJ?
2. Where did all his money go?
3. Who fathered those children?
4. Why did he have to die?


People will be talking about this 10 years from now.
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Reply #1009 posted 09/08/09 12:36pm

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Timmy84 said:

Copycat said:

Four thread pages of paternity speculation and discussion on multi-racial features or the lack thereof in the children. Talk about beating a dead horse. confused


Shit, and Prince's picture being posted eleven million times. rolleyes Makes me wanna rip that picture. Just so they can see MJ's eyeballs in that kid?! Talk about obsessive. Michael Jackson will be pissed with all of us discussing shit like that.


all i got to say is: whateva!!; the boy is black.....
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #1010 posted 09/08/09 12:38pm

Evvy

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carlcranshaw said:

Timmy84 said:



You forget that this dude's hair isn't what Pep Boys or any car/oil-influenced company NEEDS. They'll tell him to cut it off and he would reject saying he NEEDS this. lol


Yeah that's true. I can see suing Pep Boys after Jermaine messed up my oil change and had the whole vehicle covered in oil. Then he'll come out singing "Smile though your car is f***** up."

not funny....at all
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Reply #1011 posted 09/08/09 12:43pm

Serena

Timmy84 said:

carlcranshaw said:

Why doesn't Jermaine go work at Pep Boys and pay child support for healing?


You forget that this dude's hair isn't what Pep Boys or any car/oil-influenced company NEEDS. They'll tell him to cut it off and he would reject saying he NEEDS this. lol


falloff
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Reply #1012 posted 09/08/09 12:52pm

NMuzakNSoul

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I played this game everyday when I was younger.
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Reply #1013 posted 09/08/09 12:58pm

tangerine7

V I D E OOOOO
http://news.sky.com/skyne...7007?f=rss
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Reply #1014 posted 09/08/09 1:23pm

cdcgold

EmeraldSkies said:

Copycat said:




Mary J. Blige to Lead Jackson Tribute in Vienna
September 8, 2009


Artists including R&B stars Mary J. Blige, Akon and Chris Brown as well as veterans Natalie Cole and Sister Sledge will perform at the Vienna Michael Jackson tribute concert later this month, organizers said on Tuesday.

Thirteen artists so far have been confirmed to perform at the concert, set in front of Vienna's Schoenbrunn castle on September 26, Michael's brother Jermaine Jackson and producer Georg Kindel told reporters at a news conference in Vienna.

Jermaine will sing a virtual duet with his late brother, who died from a drug overdose on June 25 and will be brought to life by video projections on the concert stage.
All the artists will sing Michael Jackson's greatest hits and will be supported by the band and dancers which were to accompany Jackson on his planned "This Is It" series of comeback concerts in London before the king of pop died in June.

In a grand finale, all of them will sing "We Are The World" and "Heal The World" together, Kindel said. Jackson's children and his mother Katherine will also be in Vienna.

A total of 20 to 25 artists are expected for the concert. More names will be revealed at separate news conferences in London on Wednesday and in Berlin on Thursday, Kindel said.

Tickets for the concert are being sold in stages for 63 to 518 euros ($91-$745) each. More than half have been sold.


http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...id=8513014



That will be both creepy,and cool. Is this going to be televised?


i hope the kids won't be there to see this virtual duet. can you imagine little blanket running up to the stage to see his daddy and only getting air. talk about tramautizing
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Reply #1015 posted 09/08/09 1:25pm

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cdcgold said:

EmeraldSkies said:




That will be both creepy,and cool. Is this going to be televised?


i hope the kids won't be there to see this virtual duet. can you imagine little blanket running up to the stage to see his daddy and only getting air. talk about tramautizing


i dont think the kids are THAT gullible.
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Reply #1016 posted 09/08/09 1:31pm

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cdcgold said:

EmeraldSkies said:




That will be both creepy,and cool. Is this going to be televised?


i hope the kids won't be there to see this virtual duet. can you imagine little blanket running up to the stage to see his daddy and only getting air. talk about tramautizing


I know Blanket is very young,but they were at his funeral. I would think that by now he does understand that his daddy is in heaven. sad
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Reply #1017 posted 09/08/09 1:32pm

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Timmy84 said:

EmeraldSkies said:



I liked the video that Natalie Cole did to go with the song that she sang with her father,I think in a way it was something that was comforting to her. I did'nt relaize that Lisa Marie did this though. I never saw or heard anything of it. I'm sure that "Smile" will be the song of choice,I just hope that Jermaine is doing also as a way of healing,and not to try to promote himself. nod


Yeah that was cool @ the Natalie/Nat thing. Least it was 35 years after Nat's death. Yeah Lisa did it around 2006, she sung his "In the Ghetto" joint. And right on @ Jermaine doing it for healing, I definitely hope it will be, and for some reason I wanna believe it is. nod


Here's to hoping! coke
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Reply #1018 posted 09/08/09 2:18pm

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A belated happy b-day Mike. Sorry for my delay rose dove rainbo













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Reply #1019 posted 09/08/09 2:20pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

dag said:


Just a question to those who don´t think these are not Mike´s kids. Mike has always been very open about the fact that he wanted big family, at least 10 children, He wanted to beat his father. He stated it many times, in his autobiography, in his interviews and even when Bashit asked him when was he gonna have the next child, he said "I wish I could have it today". Now if MJ was using surrogates to have children, WHY did he have only 3 children? If those kids are his (as I believe) and he cared about who he was going to have kids with meaning he wanted to trust and know that person etc., than it is understandable, but how do you explain that if you believe he used surrogate mothers and fathers, cause this way he could have easily had 20 children, if he wanted.



Because surrogates cost money and they can keep costing money as we saw with Debbie Rowe. Add to that the money it takes to keep things private (especially true paternity) and it becomes increasingly more difficult to have a large brood without the press all up in your business. Look at the flack that Angelina and Brad get for adopting their kids. Someone of MJ's stature and known addiction to cosmetic surgery would have a really hard time trying to procure 20 kids. Look, at the end of the day I don't care how he got them because he is now gone but at the time when those babies first popped up and the circumstances under which they popped up, it just seemed to me MJ was still dealing with issues about his appearance. He also once said he wanted to adopt children from every continent but of course that never happened and was never going to.

I don´t think money would have mattered to him and I don´t think he would have problems procuring more kids. The number of 20 was, of course, exagerated, but he sure could have gotten more than 3 kids. I don´t understand what his appearance has to do with him having kids.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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