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Reply #930 posted 09/07/09 1:52pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

Evvy said:



I know some light skin black people who dont tan this much in the sun-they burn-and i've never seen a caucasion person- with no mixed blood- tan this dark- red like a strawberry yes- brown like a grocery bag-- NO

this boy moves like Michael- his mannerisms and expressions....


not to say that he isnt his kid but yea just thought i'd clarify that statement, there ARE caucasian people that tan that dark. italians and portugese are good examples. idk if they're really considering to be caucasian all things considered but yea. i actually know portugese kids that tan as dark as a light skinned hispanics so yea



you are very right- i picked the wrong word in "caucasian"=- cause Debbie is not italian or spanish or asian- she has pale skin that will strawberry before it chocolates in the sun-

get my drift.....
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Reply #931 posted 09/07/09 2:03pm

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Evvy said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:



not to say that he isnt his kid but yea just thought i'd clarify that statement, there ARE caucasian people that tan that dark. italians and portugese are good examples. idk if they're really considering to be caucasian all things considered but yea. i actually know portugese kids that tan as dark as a light skinned hispanics so yea



you are very right- i picked the wrong word in "caucasian"=- cause Debbie is not italian or spanish or asian- she has pale skin that will strawberry before it chocolates in the sun-

get my drift.....


lol yea i got you. tho what IS debbie btw? i mean for all we know she could be ethnic and still burn (my bestie is like this, half brazilian, half portugese and she BURNS in the sun)
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Reply #932 posted 09/07/09 2:04pm

cdcgold

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Evvy said:



I know some light skin black people who dont tan this much in the sun-they burn-and i've never seen a caucasion person- with no mixed blood- tan this dark- red like a strawberry yes- brown like a grocery bag-- NO

this boy moves like Michael- his mannerisms and expressions....


not to say that he isnt his kid but yea just thought i'd clarify that statement, there ARE caucasian people that tan that dark. italians and portugese are good examples. idk if they're really considering to be caucasian all things considered but yea. i actually know portugese kids that tan as dark as a light skinned hispanics so yea


honestly go talk to any black person about how the people in their family look. you will here so many stories. i'm telling you black people can look like anything under the sun, any color or hair texture. ( while white people are diverse too its just not the same as black people, thats why its almost impossible for all these white men to be the father if debbies the mother. you don't get dominant genes out of a pool of recessive genes. 2 blue eyed parents will not have a brown eyed child that is the case 99% of the time)

most people who defend mj's kids arent doing it cause their crazy. their doing it cause its insulting and because they know its not impossible. their are "full" black people with 2 black parents who look whiter than michaels kids. i could sit here and write all day about people i've met and the people in my own family. my great aunt( my grandmothers sister) has the weirdest skin tone ever, its like a mixture of pink and brown and she can't tan to save her life, she just burns and not only that she has Blue eyes. same brown skinned mother and father as all her siblings and she is the only one who looks like that, I'm sure there are italian and portugese people who tan darker than my aunt, but that doesnt mean my aunt isnt black. besides wasn't it proven that italians have african ancestry anyway?
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Reply #933 posted 09/07/09 2:06pm

cdcgold

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Evvy said:




you are very right- i picked the wrong word in "caucasian"=- cause Debbie is not italian or spanish or asian- she has pale skin that will strawberry before it chocolates in the sun-

get my drift.....


lol yea i got you. tho what IS debbie btw? i mean for all we know she could be ethnic and still burn (my bestie is like this, half brazilian, half portugese and she BURNS in the sun)


as far as i know debbie was adopted into a jewish family, but she is not jewish ethnically as in a semite. my guess is she is scandinavian. she has very strong nordic european features.

on another note i've notices that usually with biracial couples if the white parent has that strong nordic look like debbie the kids sometimes come out whiter as opposed to the classic american white look.

you know like boris beckers kids. i've heard people say his daughter looks albino, but i don't agree if she looks albino than so does boris cause she looks like he spit her out on a platter.

and theres this little tennis playing boy whos half black and his mother has that nordic look and he's blond and looks white ( but he has gotten darker as he got older). and so is his sister.

just something i observed.
[Edited 9/7/09 14:12pm]
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Reply #934 posted 09/07/09 2:09pm

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THIS IS IT Official Movie Poster

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Reply #935 posted 09/07/09 2:12pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

Evvy said:



I know some light skin black people who dont tan this much in the sun-they burn-and i've never seen a caucasion person- with no mixed blood- tan this dark- red like a strawberry yes- brown like a grocery bag-- NO

this boy moves like Michael- his mannerisms and expressions....


not to say that he isnt his kid but yea just thought i'd clarify that statement, there ARE caucasian people that tan that dark. italians and portugese are good examples. idk if they're really considering to be caucasian all things considered but yea. i actually know portugese kids that tan as dark as a light skinned hispanics so yea


My mother is not even Italian or Portuguese, she is Polish, but because she has spent so many years in the sun, she is permamently a very very tan/olivey colour and does not have pinkish undertones that some people think all white people possess. People usually assume she's from Spain, Italy, or thereabouts.

Anyway, I think people are making too big a deal about what features someone must have to be white, black, mixed. Races aren't clear cut, there's a lot of similarities between and in the end we're not too different. The kids are what they are and whatever race they want to associate with will be fine.
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Reply #936 posted 09/07/09 2:16pm

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Michael Jackson 'will be top earning celebrity next year

Michael Jackson is set to be the world's top earning celebrity brand next year, making up to £150 million ($246 million US) from beyond the grave, even more than Ronaldo and the Beckhams.

The predictions come from the top 1,000 licensing and merchandising experts across Europe taking part in the trade event Brand Licensing in London at the end of this month.

They include owners of celebrity brands and licences as well as those from retail, manufacturing, promotion and advertising industries.

Ciarán Coyle, managing director, The Beanstalk Group, said: "The Michael Jackson estate could earn an estimated £100 to £150m in royalties from licensing in 2010.

"His image and legacy is licensed on anything from coins and clothes, to coffee table books and singing stuffed animals.

"To put that into context, Elvis' estate was worth £30m last year and only a fraction of this was from licensing deals.

"The reason his estate will do so well as a licensing property is because Jackson had both fame and an emotional connection with potential consumers."

http://www.telegraph.co.u...-year.html
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Reply #937 posted 09/07/09 2:31pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

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oh good, that's a nice photoshop job. sheesh people are weird.


they're not photoshopped, they're outtakes from 3T's photo shoot for their single "Why (Feat. Michael Jackson)"



wtf mj wheres your headd omg
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Reply #938 posted 09/07/09 2:33pm

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cdcgold said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:



lol yea i got you. tho what IS debbie btw? i mean for all we know she could be ethnic and still burn (my bestie is like this, half brazilian, half portugese and she BURNS in the sun)


as far as i know debbie was adopted into a jewish family, but she is not jewish ethnically as in a semite. my guess is she is scandinavian. she has very strong nordic european features.

on another note i've notices that usually with biracial couples if the white parent has that strong nordic look like debbie the kids sometimes come out whiter as opposed to the classic american white look.

you know like boris beckers kids. i've heard people say his daughter looks albino, but i don't agree if she looks albino than so does boris cause she looks like he spit her out on a platter.

and theres this little tennis playing boy whos half black and his mother has that nordic look and he's blond and looks white ( but he has gotten darker as he got older). and so is his sister.

just something i observed.
[Edited 9/7/09 14:12pm]

all I know is 95% of y'all was jumpin up and down saying the kids don't have no color in or out of the sun- and finally since the masks are gone and you see the color everybody wanna say something else--alls I gotta say is whateva!- that boy is black.....
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Reply #939 posted 09/07/09 2:36pm

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Diana Ross at Taco Bell asked about MJ

http://www.tmz.com/videos...3a2964da88
[Edited 9/7/09 9:18am]

lol they're wrong for that, but he should have gone mad
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Reply #940 posted 09/07/09 2:39pm

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I might be the only one that has no interest in talking about his kids



Same here.
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Reply #941 posted 09/07/09 2:48pm

Moonwalkbjrain

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cdcgold said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:



not to say that he isnt his kid but yea just thought i'd clarify that statement, there ARE caucasian people that tan that dark. italians and portugese are good examples. idk if they're really considering to be caucasian all things considered but yea. i actually know portugese kids that tan as dark as a light skinned hispanics so yea


honestly go talk to any black person about how the people in their family look. you will here so many stories. i'm telling you black people can look like anything under the sun, any color or hair texture. ( while white people are diverse too its just not the same as black people, thats why its almost impossible for all these white men to be the father if debbies the mother. you don't get dominant genes out of a pool of recessive genes. 2 blue eyed parents will not have a brown eyed child that is the case 99% of the time)

most people who defend mj's kids arent doing it cause their crazy. their doing it cause its insulting and because they know its not impossible. their are "full" black people with 2 black parents who look whiter than michaels kids. i could sit here and write all day about people i've met and the people in my own family. my great aunt( my grandmothers sister) has the weirdest skin tone ever, its like a mixture of pink and brown and she can't tan to save her life, she just burns and not only that she has Blue eyes. same brown skinned mother and father as all her siblings and she is the only one who looks like that, I'm sure there are italian and portugese people who tan darker than my aunt, but that doesnt mean my aunt isnt black. besides wasn't it proven that italians have african ancestry anyway?


oh trust me i kno. i'm black myself. and yea italians and i think the portugese as well have moorish ancestors
but yea i wasnt trying to say tht those arent his kids but lets be real it IS a possiblity, and rly its not a totally bad thing. i mean it does raise some questions, but watever. in the end he is their father in the ways tht count. fuck geneology
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Reply #942 posted 09/07/09 2:49pm

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cdcgold said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:



lol yea i got you. tho what IS debbie btw? i mean for all we know she could be ethnic and still burn (my bestie is like this, half brazilian, half portugese and she BURNS in the sun)


as far as i know debbie was adopted into a jewish family, but she is not jewish ethnically as in a semite. my guess is she is scandinavian. she has very strong nordic european features.

on another note i've notices that usually with biracial couples if the white parent has that strong nordic look like debbie the kids sometimes come out whiter as opposed to the classic american white look.

you know like boris beckers kids. i've heard people say his daughter looks albino, but i don't agree if she looks albino than so does boris cause she looks like he spit her out on a platter.

and theres this little tennis playing boy whos half black and his mother has that nordic look and he's blond and looks white ( but he has gotten darker as he got older). and so is his sister.

just something i observed.
[Edited 9/7/09 14:12pm]


cool thats interesting
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Reply #943 posted 09/07/09 2:49pm

Timmy84

I swear y'all know when to go off topic, lol
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Reply #944 posted 09/07/09 2:56pm

cdcgold



lol i have no words for that outfit





lol That hair!!!!
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Reply #945 posted 09/07/09 3:06pm

Timmy84

RZA, I think, sampled this a while back:

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Reply #946 posted 09/07/09 3:08pm

Timmy84



The Jackson 5's REAL first "hit". nod
Sold 10,000 copies in 1968.
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Reply #947 posted 09/07/09 3:21pm

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Ladysmith Black Mambazo - The Moon Is Walking

biggrin makes my heart smile. I would love to see this group perform this song live in tribute to Michael.
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Reply #948 posted 09/07/09 3:22pm

tmo1965

cdcgold said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:



not to say that he isnt his kid but yea just thought i'd clarify that statement, there ARE caucasian people that tan that dark. italians and portugese are good examples. idk if they're really considering to be caucasian all things considered but yea. i actually know portugese kids that tan as dark as a light skinned hispanics so yea


honestly go talk to any black person about how the people in their family look. you will here so many stories. i'm telling you black people can look like anything under the sun, any color or hair texture. ( while white people are diverse too its just not the same as black people, thats why its almost impossible for all these white men to be the father if debbies the mother. you don't get dominant genes out of a pool of recessive genes. 2 blue eyed parents will not have a brown eyed child that is the case 99% of the time)

most people who defend mj's kids arent doing it cause their crazy. their doing it cause its insulting and because they know its not impossible. their are "full" black people with 2 black parents who look whiter than michaels kids. i could sit here and write all day about people i've met and the people in my own family. my great aunt( my grandmothers sister) has the weirdest skin tone ever, its like a mixture of pink and brown and she can't tan to save her life, she just burns and not only that she has Blue eyes. same brown skinned mother and father as all her siblings and she is the only one who looks like that, I'm sure there are italian and portugese people who tan darker than my aunt, but that doesnt mean my aunt isnt black. besides wasn't it proven that italians have african ancestry anyway?


I'm NOT convinced that these kids are NOT Michael's for the reasons that cdcgold has stated. I'm black and I know from my own family experiences that with American blacks, who have been mixed with white, latino, asian, native American, and everything else, that anything is possible when it comes to genetics. One has to take into account the entire family, not just one individual to have any basis to make a judgment on parentage based on looks.

There are people in my family who have 2 dark skinned parents and the kids are light skinned. To someone on the outside this may look strange, but it's common in my family. On my mother's side, they are a mixture of mostly black, some german, and some native american. When you have kids by someone who has a mixed backgroud (whether they look it or not) you will come out with all kinds of interesting looking offspring.

When it comes to Michael Jackson, take a look at Latoya. Assume Michael looked like Latoya and had kids by a white woman with little or no mixed heritage. Then it's not so hard to believe that Prince, Paris, and Blanket are his. Joe's eyes are light colored; so are Debbie's; hence it's not out of the question for Paris to have light colored eyes.

Another thing I've noticed about the Jackson family. Some of the brothers have kids by light skinned black women, latino, or other non-white races. These kids are light skinned with somewhat straight or curly hair. Given that Michael had kids by a white women, it's entirely possible and likely that the kids have straight hair. None of MJ's kids look completely white - their skin is very dark compared to white people. To me, Blanket looks just like Michael did when he was that age - the shape of his eyes and face are MJ's 100%. Prince's face is shaped a little like MJ's when he was a kid too. Paris takes after Debbie.

So, those of us who still believe that MJ is the biological of his kids are not just in denial.
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Reply #949 posted 09/07/09 3:23pm

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lol i have no words for that outfit




AWWWWW lol
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Reply #950 posted 09/07/09 3:28pm

cdcgold



this is a nice picture of mj and the fam meeting nelson mandela.
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Reply #951 posted 09/07/09 3:49pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:



those kids are biracial. This lady who works with my mom at my church has a grandchild that looks like paris jackson. his mom is white and his dad is black. he has blue eyes and hair like paris...skin tone is just like Paris and Prince's. There were two gurls at my work last nite...i work as a lounge attendant in the bathroom. I thought they were mexican but they were both half white and black. white textured hair and light skin. funny how people think biracial ppl should look a certain way....kinda racist isn't it?

With me its not just about that. They just dont look like Michael Jackson


That means nothing. I have a daughter who looks nothing like me. I'm her mother. My mother looks nothing like her mother, neither does my uncle, my mother's brother.
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Reply #952 posted 09/07/09 4:13pm

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The Rock& Roll Hall Annex NYC Add Rare Michael Jackson Memorabilia
September 2009


The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Annex NYC, located in Soho, is home to decades of rock & roll memorabilia including items from the late Michael Jackson.

These items include:

Handwritten lyrics to “Billie Jean” – written by Michael Jackson and released on the album Thriller, 1982.

Handwritten lyrics to “Beat It” – written by Michael Jackson and released on the album Thriller, 1982.

The Motown identification card issued to Jackson when Jackson 5 was signed to Motown Records in 1968.

Black leather gloves Jackson wore in the 1987 “Bad” music video

Handwritten lyrics to “Bad” – written by Michael Jackson and released on the album Bad, 1987.

Black military-style jacket with gold-beading Jackson wore in the 1985 “We Are the World” music video.

Handwritten lyrics to “We Are the World” –written by Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie, released as a single March 7, 1985.




http://www.rockannex.com/...el-jackson
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Reply #953 posted 09/07/09 4:16pm

tmo1965

cdcgold said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:



lol yea i got you. tho what IS debbie btw? i mean for all we know she could be ethnic and still burn (my bestie is like this, half brazilian, half portugese and she BURNS in the sun)


as far as i know debbie was adopted into a jewish family, but she is not jewish ethnically as in a semite. my guess is she is scandinavian. she has very strong nordic european features.

on another note i've notices that usually with biracial couples if the white parent has that strong nordic look like debbie the kids sometimes come out whiter as opposed to the classic american white look.

you know like boris beckers kids. i've heard people say his daughter looks albino, but i don't agree if she looks albino than so does boris cause she looks like he spit her out on a platter.

and theres this little tennis playing boy whos half black and his mother has that nordic look and he's blond and looks white ( but he has gotten darker as he got older). and so is his sister.

just something i observed.
[Edited 9/7/09 14:12pm]


Interesting.

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Reply #954 posted 09/07/09 4:23pm

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Michael Jackson Opus Reaches Global Audience
September 2009

Opus Media Group announces plans to produce the Official Michael Jackson Opus for fans all around the world.

Due to the overwhelming pre-order response via Ticketmaster, the exclusive retailer partner for the Official Michael Jackson Opus, the publisher we will be offering an initial selection of 12 different languages.

Each Opus will be printed in English and, on request, a manuscript will be made available to each owner for download in their chosen language.

The following languages will be offered initially:

French
Italian
Spanish
Japanese
Mandarin (Chinese)
Hindi (Indian)
Russian
Hebrew
Arabic
Portuguese
Swahili (African)
German

The Official Michael Jackson Opus will be specially priced at £109/$165 so that Michael Jackson’s fans from all around the world will have the opportunity to own this special keepsake.

All orders placed from now until September 30, 2009 will be delivered during the holiday season.
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Reply #955 posted 09/07/09 5:06pm

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #956 posted 09/07/09 5:10pm

cdcgold

tmo1965 said:

cdcgold said:



as far as i know debbie was adopted into a jewish family, but she is not jewish ethnically as in a semite. my guess is she is scandinavian. she has very strong nordic european features.

on another note i've notices that usually with biracial couples if the white parent has that strong nordic look like debbie the kids sometimes come out whiter as opposed to the classic american white look.

you know like boris beckers kids. i've heard people say his daughter looks albino, but i don't agree if she looks albino than so does boris cause she looks like he spit her out on a platter.

and theres this little tennis playing boy whos half black and his mother has that nordic look and he's blond and looks white ( but he has gotten darker as he got older). and so is his sister.

just something i observed.
[Edited 9/7/09 14:12pm]


Interesting.



that little girl has some striking eyes. they look like they could cut you.
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Reply #957 posted 09/07/09 5:19pm

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for the longest time I thought Mya Rudolph from SNL was white. I was shocked when I found out she's the daughter of Minnie Riperton.
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Reply #958 posted 09/07/09 5:28pm

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I dare anyone not to close their eyes and sway left to right to this one. Can't you hear all of the samples that have come from this infectious groove? Fugees' "Ready Or Not", Missy Elliot's "Sock It To Me", among others. Ahhh.... sweet music.
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Reply #959 posted 09/07/09 5:52pm

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