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Reply #270 posted 08/31/09 10:16pm

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Does anyone think its just plain weird how the funeral keeps getting delayed?

Now its September 3 or 4 or whatever.

What could be making them delay the event?

Lou Ferrigno said that MJ used to throw Mannequins into ambulances to fool the press. confused lol

Perhaps that's why this whole investigation makes no sense, and his family could care less about him being buried because something is seriously wrong about the whole situation.

And lets not forget that Roger Freidman called on TMZ's stupidity a few days ago, b/c they were punk'd with MJ documents.
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Probably the family can't bear to let him go.
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Reply #271 posted 08/31/09 10:23pm

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^ now that is weird.
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Reply #272 posted 08/31/09 10:35pm

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whatsgoingon said:

suga10 said:

Does anyone think its just plain weird how the funeral keeps getting delayed?

Now its September 3 or 4 or whatever.

What could be making them delay the event?

Lou Ferrigno said that MJ used to throw Mannequins into ambulances to fool the press. confused lol

Perhaps that's why this whole investigation makes no sense, and his family could care less about him being buried because something is seriously wrong about the whole situation.

And lets not forget that Roger Freidman called on TMZ's stupidity a few days ago, b/c they were punk'd with MJ documents.
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Probably the family can't bear to let him go.


For three months?
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Reply #273 posted 08/31/09 11:19pm

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Former Protégé Vouches for Jackson

Thursday, April 07, 2005

By Roger Friedman


No matter who testifies next in Michael Jackson's alleged "prior acts" of sexual abuse mini-trial, the prosecution will have to deal with the fact that only one boy will show up to say he was molested many years ago by the pop star.

Now comes Robert Newt, 30, long a "Holy Grail" for The National Enquirer from its investigation into Jackson circa 1993.

Newt and his twin brother Ronald Newt Jr. (now deceased) were aspiring performers and spent two weeks as guests in the Jackson family home in Encino, Calif., around 1985. They were about 11 years old. This all occurred before Neverland was completed. Michael, Janet Jackson and LaToya Jackson were all there, as well as the Jackson parents.

Fast-forward to December 1993. The National Enquirer, desperate to get a scoop that Jackson has abused children, heard that the Newt kids once spent time with Jackson.

The tabloid offered the Newts' father, Ronald Newt Sr., $200,000 to say that something happened between his kids and Jackson.

Newt, a San Francisco "character" and filmmaker whose past includes pimping and jail time, considered the offer.

A contract was drawn up, signed by Enquirer editor David Perel. Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager, who is also now deceased, met with Newt and his son at the Marriott hotel in downtown San Francisco.

It seemed that all systems were go. But the Newts declined the offer at the last minute.

Ron Newt Sr., to whom $200,000 would have seemed like the world on a silver platter, wrote "No good sucker" where his signature was supposed to go. The reason: Nothing ever happened between Jackson and the Newt boys.

Indeed, no kids, no matter how much money was dangled by the tabloids, ever showed up to trade stories of Jackson malfeasance for big lumps of cash after the first scandal broke in 1993.

"Maybe there aren't any other kids," a current Enquirer editor conceded.

I met Bobby Newt yesterday near the office where he works as a mortgage broker in suburban Los Angeles.

Just as his dad promised me a few days earlier, he's a good-looking kid. He's half black and half Chinese.

Robert and his twin brother were likely very cute kids. They have the same features as other boys advertised as alleged Neverland "victims." But all Bobby Newt remembers of his encounter with Jackson is good times.

And all he remembers about the man from The National Enquirer is that he wanted Bobby, then 18, to lie.

"He said, 'Say he grabbed you on the butt. Say he grabbed you and touched you in any kind of way,'" Newt said. "He told us he took all these people down. Now he was going to take Michael down. That he would really destroy him. He told us he took all these other famous people down.

All the major people that had scandals against them. He said, 'We take these people down. That's what we do.'"

Prior to Bobby's meeting with Mitteager, Bobby's father met with him and brought along an intermediary, San Francisco politician, businessman and fellow jailbird Charlie Walker.

Walker is infamous in San Francisco circles for being "hooked up" to anything interesting cooking on the West Coast.

"My dad said these dudes are offering this money to take Michael Jackson down. And the guy [Mitteager] said, 'Say he touched you. All you have to do is say it. But you might have to take the stand. You might have to go on 'Oprah' in front of all these people. You have to be prepared for this thing. Just say it. And we'll give you money,'" Newt said.

Two pieces of evidence confirm the Newts' story. One is the actual contract proffered by the Enquirer and signed by Perel, who declined to comment for this story.

The contract, written as a letter, says it's an agreement between the tabloid and the Newts for their exclusive story regarding "your relationship with and knowledge of Michael Jackson, and his sexuality, your knowledge of Michael Jackson's sexual contact and attempts at sexual contact with Robert Newt and others."

Mitteager expected them to sign, even though it was completely untrue and there was, in fact, no story.

He knew you were lying, I reminded Bobby Newt.

"Exactly! And he didn't care! He was like, 'Just say it and we'll give you the money.' And I was like, 'He [Jackson] never touched me!" Newt said. "He [Mitteager] was really fishing and really digging. Think about it — most people you say it to, 'We'll give you this money,' even [if it's not true]. And they'd take it."

Bobby Newt recalled more details of the 30-minute meeting with The National Enquirer's reporter:

"He was trying to coach me — if I decided to take the money, what would happen. He said 'You know, it's going to be a huge scandal. You'll probably have a lot of people not liking you. You're going to be famous!' But to me, you'd be ruined. And the truth is Michael didn't do anything even close to trying to molest us."

Ironically, the second piece of evidence also backs up the Newts' story. Unbeknownst to them, they were taped by Mitteager.

I told you last week that Mitteager did more surreptitious taping than Richard Nixon. When he died, the tapes were left to Hollywood investigator Paul Barresi. His dozens of hours of tapes include a conversation between Mitteager, Ron Newt Sr. and Charlie Walker.

When I read some of the transcript back to Newt the other day, he was shocked.

"I said all that," he observed, surprised to have his memory prodded some 12 years later.

Back in the mid-'80s, Ron Newt Sr. put his three sons together as a singing group much as Joseph Jackson did. He called them The Newtrons.

After much pushing, he got the attention of Joe Jackson, who agreed to manage the group. Joe Jackson got the Newtrons a showcase at the Roxy in West Hollywood.

Michael showed up and loved them. The result was a two-week stay for the boys at the Encino house on Hayvenhurst Ave., where they were supposed to work on their music.

"We would see Michael in passing. We didn't see him, maybe, because he was working on an album. We saw him downstairs in the kitchen and we talked to him," he said.

The Newtrons eventually got a record contract and recorded the Jackson 5 hit "I Want You Back" at Hayvenhurst. They also spent the night at Tito Jackson's house. But nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

"I don't know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks," he said. "And he didn't try anything."

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson "victim" Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

Jackson's former maid Blanca Francia implicated Robson in the case during Monday's testimony. Robson is not testifying for the prosecution.

"Wade is straight as they come. He's getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either," Newt said.

He shakes his head, thinking about those who have made claims against Jackson.

"You have to look at these people, go back and see when their relationship with Michael fractured. The calls stopped coming," he said.

And Newt should know. After the adventure in 1985, the Newts never saw Jackson again. It didn't bother them, Bobby says, as much as it might have others.

"They probably didn't like it. And this is their way of getting back at him," he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/st...08,00.html

Unebelievable how sick and cruel people can be. Poor Mike had to suffer so much. neutral
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #274 posted 08/31/09 11:22pm

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this is such a cute picture of paris. i have to say she was kinda funny looking when she was little. but she had her moments, like this one. thank god she's grown into her looks now.


She´s beautiful.

I love these that have come out recently. Mike was such a wonderful father.




And Blanket is the cutest baby ever.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #275 posted 08/31/09 11:50pm

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dag said:

cdcgold said:

this is such a cute picture of paris. i have to say she was kinda funny looking when she was little. but she had her moments, like this one. thank god she's grown into her looks now.


She´s beautiful.

I love these that have come out recently. Mike was such a wonderful father.




And Blanket is the cutest baby ever.


Nice pictures. I dont understand why MJ was dying Prince's hair at such a young age ..
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Reply #276 posted 09/01/09 12:00am

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Some information came to the ears of MJFrance about the film "Michael Jackson This Is It" that we all expect to October 28 next. Thus, the trailer of the film should be broadcast worldwide exclusive at the MTV Video Music Awards in New York September 13, 2009 from 21h (local time).
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Reply #277 posted 09/01/09 12:20am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Nice pictures. I dont understand why MJ was dying Prince's hair at such a young age ..

Do you think he was bleaching his hair even at this age? It´s very hard for me to believe.

I know a kid´s hair can change. I was born with black hair, than I had completely fair hair and now I´ve got brown hair naturally. I really don´t know.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #278 posted 09/01/09 1:41am

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The reason for the delay in the funeral arrangements (this time) from August 29 to September 3 has been reportedly due to the fact that some members of the Jackson family didn't feel it was right for Michael to be buried on his birthday (namely his mother).

As for the delay to this point, who knows, it is possible that the family wanted to put him at peace when the brain, and lung tissue were returned and when the coroner would no longer need the body. Lord knows the last thing this needs if for the body to be exhumed.

Swa
"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #279 posted 09/01/09 6:18am

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Swa said:

The reason for the delay in the funeral arrangements (this time) from August 29 to September 3 has been reportedly due to the fact that some members of the Jackson family didn't feel it was right for Michael to be buried on his birthday (namely his mother).

As for the delay to this point, who knows, it is possible that the family wanted to put him at peace when the brain, and lung tissue were returned and when the coroner would no longer need the body. Lord knows the last thing this needs if for the body to be exhumed.

Swa


I don't think there was ever a definite date set for the funeral. The date keeps changing constantly.
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Reply #280 posted 09/01/09 9:16am

Timmy84

dag said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Nice pictures. I dont understand why MJ was dying Prince's hair at such a young age ..

Do you think he was bleaching his hair even at this age? It´s very hard for me to believe.

I know a kid´s hair can change. I was born with black hair, than I had completely fair hair and now I´ve got brown hair naturally. I really don´t know.
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My nephews, brother, great-grandma, grandma and mother were all born with blondish hair. All of their hair color changed to black (or at least auburn) when they got older. There's been black folks that were born with blondish hair (Flo Ballard being an obvious one).
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Reply #281 posted 09/01/09 10:34am

Timmy84

Michael Jackson tribute lineup to be unveiled soon

(AP) – 4 hours ago

VIENNA — It's almost as mysterious as Michael Jackson's moon walk.

Fans still don't know who will perform at a major tribute to the late pop star that will be held outside a 17th-century palace in Vienna later this month.

But they will, exactly one week from now: Organizers say Jackson's brother Jermaine will hold a news conference in the Austrian capital next Tuesday to unveil the lineup for the Sept. 26 concert.

Jermaine Jackson has promised that some of the world's top entertainers will perform Michael's greatest hits on a crown-shaped stage being erected outside Vienna's former imperial Schoenbrunn Palace.

He says the event will be broadcast live to 1 billion fans around the world.

Michael Jackson died June 25 in Los Angeles.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Reply #282 posted 09/01/09 10:39am

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Timmy84 said:

dag said:


Do you think he was bleaching his hair even at this age? It´s very hard for me to believe.

I know a kid´s hair can change. I was born with black hair, than I had completely fair hair and now I´ve got brown hair naturally. I really don´t know.
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My nephews, brother, great-grandma, grandma and mother were all born with blondish hair. All of their hair color changed to black (or at least auburn) when they got older. There's been black folks that were born with blondish hair (Flo Ballard being an obvious one).



what? really? And what's your color now?

I never have heard of people whose hair has gotten lighter. I know people who were blondes and changed to brunette, but never someone who was born with black hair and became blonde or a ginger.
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Reply #283 posted 09/01/09 10:40am

Timmy84

graecophilos said:

Timmy84 said:



My nephews, brother, great-grandma, grandma and mother were all born with blondish hair. All of their hair color changed to black (or at least auburn) when they got older. There's been black folks that were born with blondish hair (Flo Ballard being an obvious one).



what? really? And what's your color now?

I never have heard of people whose hair has gotten lighter. I know people who were blondes and changed to brunette, but never someone who was born with black hair and became blonde or a ginger.


I was born with black hair and still have it. lol
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Reply #284 posted 09/01/09 10:46am

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dag said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Nice pictures. I dont understand why MJ was dying Prince's hair at such a young age ..

Do you think he was bleaching his hair even at this age? It´s very hard for me to believe.

I know a kid´s hair can change. I was born with black hair, than I had completely fair hair and now I´ve got brown hair naturally. I really don´t know.
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My cousins daughter was born with a full head of black hair,and now she is blonde.
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Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #285 posted 09/01/09 11:53am

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Reply #286 posted 09/01/09 12:23pm

Timmy84

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The "prince" of pop. cool
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Reply #287 posted 09/01/09 12:41pm

cdcgold

dag said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Nice pictures. I dont understand why MJ was dying Prince's hair at such a young age ..

Do you think he was bleaching his hair even at this age? It´s very hard for me to believe.

I know a kid´s hair can change. I was born with black hair, than I had completely fair hair and now I´ve got brown hair naturally. I really don´t know.
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yeah it was byed. but michaels so rich maybe he could get a really safe hair dye for kids or something. Gwen stefani bleached kingstons hair. and some people are saying britney bleached her boys hair, so maybe there is a safe way to do it.
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Reply #288 posted 09/01/09 12:54pm

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cdcgold said:

dag said:


Do you think he was bleaching his hair even at this age? It´s very hard for me to believe.

I know a kid´s hair can change. I was born with black hair, than I had completely fair hair and now I´ve got brown hair naturally. I really don´t know.
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yeah it was byed. but michaels so rich maybe he could get a really safe hair dye for kids or something. Gwen stefani bleached kingstons hair. and some people are saying britney bleached her boys hair, so maybe there is a safe way to do it.
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Really? I didn´t know that. Where did you hear that. Was it a reliable source?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #289 posted 09/01/09 1:13pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

EmeraldSkies said:



Pics?
[Edited 8/31/09 13:02pm]




I had this for a while
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Reply #290 posted 09/01/09 2:54pm

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http://www.youtube.com/wa...WdaCW4qyuU

A never-seen alternate version of Jackson's "Blood on the Dance Floor" video which Paterson shot with an 8mm camera--grainy, overexposed, and sexy as shit--was shown, and Paterson said, "Michael loved it, but Sony hated it and refused to release it, which is where all the trouble might have started."

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Reply #291 posted 09/01/09 2:59pm

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WdaCW4qyuU

A never-seen alternate version of Jackson's "Blood on the Dance Floor" video which Paterson shot with an 8mm camera--grainy, overexposed, and sexy as shit--was shown, and Paterson said, "Michael loved it, but Sony hated it and refused to release it, which is where all the trouble might have started."

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nod nod nod nod Totally love it, even more than the released version.

I´ve made a new thread about it.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #292 posted 09/01/09 4:18pm

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ooho i like that more too

more people giving mj lame advice surprise surprise
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Reply #293 posted 09/01/09 4:32pm

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Spokesperson: Hoax Video Of Michael Jackson Was An Experiment
September 1, 2009

A hoax video purportedly showing Michael Jackson emerging from a coroner's van was an experiment aimed at showing how quickly misinformation and conspiracy theories can race across the Internet, German broadcaster RTL said Tuesday.

The video was posted by RTL on YouTube for a single day a week ago and received 880,000 hits.

The broadcaster has since removed the video from YouTube, but it has been picked up by other Web sites around the world.

"We wanted to show how easily users can be manipulated on the Internet with hoax videos," spokeswoman Heike Schultz of Cologne-based RTL told The Associated Press. "Therefore, we created this video of Michael Jackson being alive, even though everybody knows by now that he is dead — and the response was breathtaking."

Jackson died June 25 in Los Angeles.


The video — posted under an "anonymous source" — shows a coroner's van entering what seems like a parking garage and the King of Pop getting out of the back with another person. The lighting is bad, the sound muffled and the footage appears amateurish.

"Unfortunately, many people believed it was true," Schultz said. "Even though we tried to create the video in a way that every normal user can see right away that it is a fake."

She said the video was shot near Cologne — "definitely not in the U.S." The van in the video had the word "CORONER" printed in English, suggesting it had been recorded in America.


RTL admitted to the hoax in an Aug. 26 report on its daily news show Explosiv.

Hoaxes and rumors commonly spread like wildfire on the Internet.

Videos of flying saucers and impossible stunts routinely are among the most-viewed on video-sharing sites, though purported evidence of the deceased being alive is less common than false rumors of someone's death.

The rise of Twitter and its real-time microblogging has quickened the pace. American actor Patrick Swayze, who is battling pancreatic cancer, had to declare that he is still alive this year after thousands of Twitter users spread news that he was dead. Actor Jeff Goldblum had to do the same.

The RTL spokeswoman said some Jackson fans were upset by the German broadcaster's actions.

"We didn't want to dishonor Michael Jackson, but we needed a strong name to get this experiment going," Schultz said. "Had we used Britney Spears, then the fans of Britney would have complained."



http://wcbstv.com/enterta...58009.html
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Reply #294 posted 09/01/09 5:03pm

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dag said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Nice pictures. I dont understand why MJ was dying Prince's hair at such a young age ..

Do you think he was bleaching his hair even at this age? It´s very hard for me to believe.

I know a kid´s hair can change. I was born with black hair, than I had completely fair hair and now I´ve got brown hair naturally. I really don´t know.
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If I remember right Debbie did that because they were getting kidnapping threats.So she made him dye his hair and make the children wear masks in public to prevent them from being recognizable if they were ever without him. His natural hair must be blond. I might be wrong but I remember asking that question long time ago and that's why they told me in the MJ forums.
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Reply #295 posted 09/01/09 5:53pm

cdcgold

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cdcgold said:

this is such a cute picture of paris. i have to say she was kinda funny looking when she was little. but she had her moments, like this one. thank god she's grown into her looks now.


She´s beautiful.

I love these that have come out recently. Mike was such a wonderful father.




And Blanket is the cutest baby ever.



blanket looks nothing like he did when he was a baby and neither does prince, well when he was a little kid that is.
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Reply #296 posted 09/01/09 6:00pm

cdcgold

dag said:

cdcgold said:




yeah it was byed. but michaels so rich maybe he could get a really safe hair dye for kids or something. Gwen stefani bleached kingstons hair. and some people are saying britney bleached her boys hair, so maybe there is a safe way to do it.
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Really? I didn´t know that. Where did you hear that. Was it a reliable source?



no but i saw pics of britneys boys and their hair is much lighter. their hair is cut short now.









i don't remember either one of them being that blond, maybe the little one but sean had brown hair.
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Reply #297 posted 09/01/09 6:28pm

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this picture is hilarius he's like "why is he touching me" and that hair is a mess, its so obvious he;s not blond.



ALl the children as they were rehearsing a show for us. (notice the socks and shoes on Paris and Prince... just like Daddy)

this is always my favorite one. dang little kids sure did love mj their all over him.


man i love that chris tucker.
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Reply #298 posted 09/01/09 6:31pm

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Reply #299 posted 09/01/09 6:38pm

cdcgold

off topic but has anyone ever seen jackies son siggy. he looks older than jackie and looks like he's on drugs

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