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SHOWDOWN: Alien Sex Fiend vs. Fields Of The Nephilim Where my org goths at?
Both were big names in the British goth scene in the 80s, but had vastly different styles. Alien Sex Fiend injected a lot of humor into their lyrics and image (how can you not be funny with a name like Alien Sex Fiend) and musically they sounded like zombies from outer space. Fields of The Nephilim on the other hand took themselves a lot more seriously and were strongly influenced by spaghetti westerns and Ennio Morricone. I like both but a little Alien Sex Fiend goes a long way since their music has not evolved that much over the course of their career while The Nephilim, driven by frontman Carl McCoy's perfectionism, became more and more majestic and epic with each release. I have every Nephilim album (not that there are many), but only a handful of ASF records. FIELDS OF THE NEPHILIM WINS. 
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I don't expect this thread to be very popular.  | |
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I really hope there are no goths here. Unfunky wierdos.  | |
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I always like the garden variety pop star versions of Goth...No I'm not talking about that shit Evanescence band that claimed the goth mantel  , but The Sisters of Mercy.
If I had to chose between those two I'd go with Fields of NappyDugout cause the vocals are more to my liking. I also loved it when neo-Industrial synth bands were imitating goth (Every day is Halloween--ministry) or even when Depeche Mode took a stab at that shit (Blasphemous Rumors). I know purist are going to lambaste me for those examples, but hey--they play those songs in Goth clubs, so I can't be THAT far off the mark.
An interesting genre that never quite broke free from it's comic-book style appeal. Goth , though not as 'hot topic' as Emo never seems to be more than a circus act to those who aren't actually into the genre. I was into it simply because they were my favorite dance clubs, but after awhile it sort of feels a wee bit camp. You're very brave for starting such a terrible thread. 
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Marrk said: I really hope there are no goths here. Unfunky wierdos.
Unfunky? You sir, have obviously never heard of SPECIMEN.  | |
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Imago said:
I always like the garden variety pop star versions of Goth...No I'm not talking about that shit Evanescence band that claimed the goth mantel , but The Sisters of Mercy.
If I had to chose between those two I'd go with Fields of NappyDugout cause the vocals are more to my liking. I also loved it when neo-Industrial synth bands were imitating goth (Every day is Halloween--ministry) or even when Depeche Mode took a stab at that shit (Blasphemous Rumors). I know purist are going to lambaste me for those examples, but hey--they play those songs in Goth clubs, so I can't be THAT far off the mark.
An interesting genre that never quite broke free from it's comic-book style appeal. Goth , though not as 'hot topic' as Emo never seems to be more than a circus act to those who aren't actually into the genre. I was into it simply because they were my favorite dance clubs, but after awhile it sort of feels a wee bit camp. You're very brave for starting such a terrible thread.
. [Edited 8/20/09 9:53am] Ah yes, the biggest goth band ever, the Sisters Of Mercy. When you get Meat Loaf producer, Jim Steinman to work on your records, you clearly are aiming for the stars. (Floodland is one of my favorite albums ever.) And with that success Andrew Eldritch achieved a popularity that he ultimately came to despise and has considered "goth" a four-letter word ever since.
Ministry and Depeche Mode do indeed have significant goth followings so I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong there. Hell, the late 90s/early 00s synthpop wave practically RULED goth clubs for awhile. Goth will never be popular in the states. This country is way to conservative to embrace it the way the U.K. or Germany do/did. Thank you for your sincere response. | |
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i love specimen!!!
alien sex fiend thought i can't stand the singer's voice from nephilim. | |
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baroque said: i love specimen!!!
alien sex fiend thought i can't stand the singer's voice from nephilim. Perhaps I should have started a Specimen vs. March Violets thread instead? Rozz Williams' Christian Death vs. Valor's Christian Death? (no contest there) Or just skip over to the main event of heavyweights: Bauhaus vs. The Sisters Of Mercy?  | |
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sextonseven said: Imago said:
I always like the garden variety pop star versions of Goth...No I'm not talking about that shit Evanescence band that claimed the goth mantel , but The Sisters of Mercy.
If I had to chose between those two I'd go with Fields of NappyDugout cause the vocals are more to my liking. I also loved it when neo-Industrial synth bands were imitating goth (Every day is Halloween--ministry) or even when Depeche Mode took a stab at that shit (Blasphemous Rumors). I know purist are going to lambaste me for those examples, but hey--they play those songs in Goth clubs, so I can't be THAT far off the mark.
An interesting genre that never quite broke free from it's comic-book style appeal. Goth , though not as 'hot topic' as Emo never seems to be more than a circus act to those who aren't actually into the genre. I was into it simply because they were my favorite dance clubs, but after awhile it sort of feels a wee bit camp. You're very brave for starting such a terrible thread.
. [Edited 8/20/09 9:53am] Ah yes, the biggest goth band ever, the Sisters Of Mercy. When you get Meat Loaf producer, Jim Steinman to work on your records, you clearly are aiming for the stars. (Floodland is one of my favorite albums ever.) And with that success Andrew Eldritch achieved a popularity that he ultimately came to despise and has considered "goth" a four-letter word ever since.
Ministry and Depeche Mode do indeed have significant goth followings so I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong there. Hell, the late 90s/early 00s synthpop wave practically RULED goth clubs for awhile. Goth will never be popular in the states. This country is way to conservative to embrace it the way the U.K. or Germany do/did. Thank you for your sincere response. The only thing I can add to your thread is that the brother of the guy who used to be my best friend for some time was a huge Sisters Of Mercy fan. Now you can thank me for my contribution  .With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Serious said: sextonseven said: Ah yes, the biggest goth band ever, the Sisters Of Mercy. When you get Meat Loaf producer, Jim Steinman to work on your records, you clearly are aiming for the stars. (Floodland is one of my favorite albums ever.) And with that success Andrew Eldritch achieved a popularity that he ultimately came to despise and has considered "goth" a four-letter word ever since.
Ministry and Depeche Mode do indeed have significant goth followings so I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong there. Hell, the late 90s/early 00s synthpop wave practically RULED goth clubs for awhile. Goth will never be popular in the states. This country is way to conservative to embrace it the way the U.K. or Germany do/did. Thank you for your sincere response. The only thing I can add to your thread is that the brother of the guy who used to be my best friend for some time was a huge Sisters Of Mercy fan. Now you can thank me for my contribution .That was better than nothing I guess. | |
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I was personally protesting these stupid Showdown threads, but that first song is AWESOME!  If you will, so will I | |
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sextonseven said: baroque said: i love specimen!!!
alien sex fiend thought i can't stand the singer's voice from nephilim. ) Or just skip over to the main event of heavyweights: Bauhaus vs. The Sisters Of Mercy? bauhaus sisters of mercy really cheesy sometimes. | |
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NEPHILIM HAND DOWN! FOR HER LIGHT CLASSIC ALSO FOR BAUHAUS VS SISTER MERCY POOK PICK SISTER POOKRETIA MY REFLECTION! P o o |/, P o o |\ | |
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sextonseven said: Serious said: The only thing I can add to your thread is that the brother of the guy who used to be my best friend for some time was a huge Sisters Of Mercy fan. Now you can thank me for my contribution .That was better than nothing I guess.  With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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thekidsgirl said: I was personally protesting these stupid Showdown threads, but that first song is AWESOME!
Mas Alien Sex Fiend para tí: | |
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POOK said: NEPHILIM HAND DOWN! FOR HER LIGHT CLASSIC Totally agree there! | |
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LATE STUFF MOST SCARY MUSIC EVER THOUGH IT REAL SPOOKY TOO SCARY FOR POOK! 
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POOK said: LATE STUFF MOST SCARY MUSIC EVER THOUGH IT REAL SPOOKY TOO SCARY FOR POOK!
I have that. It was a Carl McCoy solo album I believe after he and the band split and the rest of the guys continued on as Rubicon. Zoon sounded like industrial metal--more Ministry than Nephilim. | |
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sextonseven said: thekidsgirl said: I was personally protesting these stupid Showdown threads, but that first song is AWESOME!
Mas Alien Sex Fiend para tí: Me gustan! Are they on the same album? . [Edited 8/22/09 11:17am] If you will, so will I | |
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POOK said: POOKRETIA MY REFLECTION! | |
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thekidsgirl said: sextonseven said: Mas Alien Sex Fiend para tí: Me gustan! Are they on the same album? . [Edited 8/22/09 11:17am] No, "Ignore The Machine" is from their first album Who's Been Sleeping In My Brain?. "R.I.P" was a single only, but can be found along with "Ignore The Machine" on any best of comp. "Buggin' Me" is only available on It - The Album. It figures you would like Alien Sex Fiend. They are real oddballs. | |
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Can't say i've heard too much of Alien Sex Fiend so notin a position to judge. Like me some Neph though - I think their early stuff (with some sax thrown in!) worked better than the ritualistic nonsense McCoy started churning out later.
Preacher Man/Laura/Love Under Will get some runs on my player every now and then...  love is god, god is love, girls and boys love god above | |
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r1ghteousone said: Can't say i've heard too much of Alien Sex Fiend so notin a position to judge. Like me some Neph though - I think their early stuff (with some sax thrown in!) worked better than the ritualistic nonsense McCoy started churning out later.
Preacher Man/Laura/Love Under Will get some runs on my player every now and then... I agree their earlier songs are much more memorable ("Blue Water" is a big favorite of mine), but I prefer McCoy's vocals later on--less like Andrew Eldritch and more his own style. | |
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sextonseven said: r1ghteousone said: Can't say i've heard too much of Alien Sex Fiend so notin a position to judge. Like me some Neph though - I think their early stuff (with some sax thrown in!) worked better than the ritualistic nonsense McCoy started churning out later.
Preacher Man/Laura/Love Under Will get some runs on my player every now and then... I agree their earlier songs are much more memorable ("Blue Water" is a big favorite of mine), but I prefer McCoy's vocals later on--less like Andrew Eldritch and more his own style. The man still growls too much for my taste...goes with the whole 'dust n death' thing I suppose
Better lyricist than Eldritch at any rate...much as I like the Sisters the man can write some pure waffle at times. love is god, god is love, girls and boys love god above | |
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