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PrintableSoulAlive said: I find that the ballads and slower tracks are the highlights of this CD:
"Butterflies" "Break Of Dawn" "Heaven Can Wait" "Speechless" "Cry" "Whatever Happens" It's the uptempo songs that are mediocre."You Rock My World" is okay,but songs like "Heartbreaker","2000 Watts","Privacy" and the title track are lame. He should have kept the ballads and worked with another producer on the uptempo stuff. I agree, but I LOVED "Unbreakable". I thought Rodney Jerkins did a good job with that track. It reminded me of some of the stuff he did for Brandy's "Never Say Never" album. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: SoulAlive said: I find that the ballads and slower tracks are the highlights of this CD:
"Butterflies" "Break Of Dawn" "Heaven Can Wait" "Speechless" "Cry" "Whatever Happens" It's the uptempo songs that are mediocre."You Rock My World" is okay,but songs like "Heartbreaker","2000 Watts","Privacy" and the title track are lame. He should have kept the ballads and worked with another producer on the uptempo stuff. I agree, but I LOVED "Unbreakable". I thought Rodney Jerkins did a good job with that track. It reminded me of some of the stuff he did for Brandy's "Never Say Never" album. That is what's wrong with this project all together. All of Jerkin's material sounds the SAME. | |
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This is the only Michael Jackson album that I don't have and don't plan on getting it. When I heard the lead single "You Rock My World" and it sounded like everything else shitty on the radio, I said..."Next!". I don't put up with sellout music. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Beautiful ballads and some cool tunes. Overall I tend to think of it as a slighlty boring album, but when I listen to each track carefully I hear some great music.
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daPrettyman said: shorttrini said: It was Tommy Motola that he had the disagreement with. I play "Invincible" at least once a week. The way I feel about "Invincible", is the same way I feel about "Dangerous", it was two songs away from a masterpiece. Take away some of the songs from it, and you would have an album that rivals, "Off The Wall". What songs did you not like on Dangerous? "Heal the World"? That's the one song that I don't really like on there. It's not that I didn't like, those songs. To me, they just did not fit. Had they kept, "Joy" and "On The Line", it would have been a better CD. Hey went from "Jam", to "Heal The World"....it just did not gel with me. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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Graycap23 said: daPrettyman said: I agree, but I LOVED "Unbreakable". I thought Rodney Jerkins did a good job with that track. It reminded me of some of the stuff he did for Brandy's "Never Say Never" album. That is what's wrong with this project all together. All of Jerkin's material sounds the SAME. I agree it all starts to sound alike, but I think Brandy's "Never Say Never" cd is some of his best work ever. That was when he found himself and then started to duplicate his sound. "You Rock My World" from MJ, "If I Gave You Love" from J-Lo and "If I Gave Love" from Chante Moore all are pretty much the same song. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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shorttrini said: daPrettyman said: What songs did you not like on Dangerous? "Heal the World"? That's the one song that I don't really like on there. It's not that I didn't like, those songs. To me, they just did not fit. Had they kept, "Joy" and "On The Line", it would have been a better CD. Hey went from "Jam", to "Heal The World"....it just did not gel with me. I love Dangerous. I agree about "Heal the World" not fitting in on the first half of the album. After hearing "Joy" I see why he didn't want it. I didn't the song fit with the album. Don't you mean "Someone Put Your Hand Out" instead of "on The Line"? I thought "On The Line" was recorded around the same time as the songs for "HIStory" were recorded? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: shorttrini said: It's not that I didn't like, those songs. To me, they just did not fit. Had they kept, "Joy" and "On The Line", it would have been a better CD. Hey went from "Jam", to "Heal The World"....it just did not gel with me. I love Dangerous. I agree about "Heal the World" not fitting in on the first half of the album. After hearing "Joy" I see why he didn't want it. I didn't the song fit with the album. Don't you mean "Someone Put Your Hand Out" instead of "on The Line"? I thought "On The Line" was recorded around the same time as the songs for "HIStory" were recorded? Both, you might be right about "On The Line", I do remember reading in a "Rolling Stone" article, that came out around that time, that "One The Line" and "Someone Put Your Hand Out", were both intended for Dangerous. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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I heard that the song You rock my world was recorded in 99. | |
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shorttrini said: daPrettyman said: I love Dangerous. I agree about "Heal the World" not fitting in on the first half of the album. After hearing "Joy" I see why he didn't want it. I didn't the song fit with the album. Don't you mean "Someone Put Your Hand Out" instead of "on The Line"? I thought "On The Line" was recorded around the same time as the songs for "HIStory" were recorded? Both, you might be right about "On The Line", I do remember reading in a "Rolling Stone" article, that came out around that time, that "One The Line" and "Someone Put Your Hand Out", were both intended for Dangerous. On The Line was produced by Babyface. I think it was done for HIStory. Joy was possibly for HIStory too. So far the songs that were intended for Dangerous were: Jam Why You Wanna Trip On Me In The Closet She Drives Me Wild Remember The Time Can't Let Her Get Away Heal The World Black Or White Who Is It Give In To Me Will You Be There Keep The Faith Gone Too Soon Dangerous Serious Effect For All Time If You Don't Love Me Men In Black Satisfy You Earth Song They Don't Care About Us Blood On The Dancfloor Monkey Business She Got It Work That Body Someone Put Your Hand Out "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: shorttrini said: Both, you might be right about "On The Line", I do remember reading in a "Rolling Stone" article, that came out around that time, that "One The Line" and "Someone Put Your Hand Out", were both intended for Dangerous. On The Line was produced by Babyface. I think it was done for HIStory. Joy was possibly for HIStory too. So far the songs that were intended for Dangerous were: Jam Why You Wanna Trip On Me In The Closet She Drives Me Wild Remember The Time Can't Let Her Get Away Heal The World Black Or White Who Is It Give In To Me Will You Be There Keep The Faith Gone Too Soon Dangerous Serious Effect For All Time If You Don't Love Me Men In Black Satisfy You Earth Song They Don't Care About Us Blood On The Dancfloor Monkey Business She Got It Work That Body Someone Put Your Hand Out Joy was definitely intended for Dangerous. Teddy Riley confirmed this in some interview. BlackStreet's version was released not too long after Dangerous came out, therefore, it would be in the same time frame. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: bboy87 said: On The Line was produced by Babyface. I think it was done for HIStory. Joy was possibly for HIStory too. So far the songs that were intended for Dangerous were: Jam Why You Wanna Trip On Me In The Closet She Drives Me Wild Remember The Time Can't Let Her Get Away Heal The World Black Or White Who Is It Give In To Me Will You Be There Keep The Faith Gone Too Soon Dangerous Serious Effect For All Time If You Don't Love Me Men In Black Satisfy You Earth Song They Don't Care About Us Blood On The Dancfloor Monkey Business She Got It Work That Body Someone Put Your Hand Out Joy was definitely intended for Dangerous. Teddy Riley confirmed this in some interview. BlackStreet's version was released not too long after Dangerous came out, therefore, it would be in the same time frame. A guy on Okayplayer knows someone who has Michael's demo of Joy "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: daPrettyman said: Joy was definitely intended for Dangerous. Teddy Riley confirmed this in some interview. BlackStreet's version was released not too long after Dangerous came out, therefore, it would be in the same time frame. A guy on Okayplayer knows someone who has Michael's demo of Joy  **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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bboy87 said: daPrettyman said: Joy was definitely intended for Dangerous. Teddy Riley confirmed this in some interview. BlackStreet's version was released not too long after Dangerous came out, therefore, it would be in the same time frame. A guy on Okayplayer knows someone who has Michael's demo of Joy Was that "Men In Black", meant for the movie? "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: bboy87 said: A guy on Okayplayer knows someone who has Michael's demo of Joy Was that "Men In Black", meant for the movie? No. | |
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I wouldn't. | |
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Do it! It is one of his best albums, and it is under-rated. A lot of good tunes on there.  | |
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midiscover said: I wouldn't.
of course you wouldn't  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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shorttrini said: bboy87 said: A guy on Okayplayer knows someone who has Michael's demo of Joy Was that "Men In Black", meant for the movie? Nah, the song was recorded aroun 1989 or 1990 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: daPrettyman said: Joy was definitely intended for Dangerous. Teddy Riley confirmed this in some interview. BlackStreet's version was released not too long after Dangerous came out, therefore, it would be in the same time frame. A guy on Okayplayer knows someone who has Michael's demo of Joy i want that. I adore Joy. Just get the album. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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apparently Michael selling 10 million copies is a "failure" compared to Thriller, but albums sales of Invincible alone is way more than many other artists see in their entire careers. That is hardly a failure. | |
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kenlacam said: apparently Michael selling 10 million copies is a "failure" compared to Thriller, but albums sales of Invincible alone is way more than many other artists see in their entire careers. That is hardly a failure.
People call Mj obsessed with Thriller and resent him for believing he was trying to top Thriller, but they call 10 million of sales a failure. Now who is obsessed with toping Thriller. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Graycap23 said: dance4me3121 said: This weekend is payday 4 me and I get to spend a certain amount on entertainment. Im already going to see Halloween and I need sum more music to add to my collection. So im thinking about buying Invincible. Is it a good album? i no it wasnt really a success.
If u like it.....it is a success. Don't hate! 10 million sales IS a success, not "if u like it". that is a stupid thing to say. | |
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Timmy84 said: shorttrini said: Was that "Men In Black", meant for the movie? No. Thanks, Timmy!! How you been man? I got another, book about Marvin. It's by, Michael E. Dyson. Great read!! "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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kenlacam said: Graycap23 said: If u like it.....it is a success. Don't hate! 10 million sales IS a success, not "if u like it". that is a stupid thing to say. I don't buy music because other people like it. THAT is beyond stupid. | |
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shorttrini said: Timmy84 said: No. Thanks, Timmy!! How you been man? I got another, book about Marvin. It's by, Michael E. Dyson. Great read!! I'm doing fine, man.  | |
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Graycap23 said: kenlacam said: Don't hate! 10 million sales IS a success, not "if u like it". that is a stupid thing to say. I don't buy music because other people like it. THAT is beyond stupid. Umm, that isn't the point. It was said that "if u like it, it is a success". that is not true. It is a success because it sold so much. You don't have to buy anything, it doesn't change the fact that it was/is a success.  | |
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This CD is ridiculous banging and despite the mixed feelings on it, everyone I have ever played it to says "Holy sh*t, THAT'S Michael Jackson" (and they say it in a good way because the music is great and they've bought the media hype that he just couldn't cut it anymore. Even in 2009 people hearing it for the first time think its a fresh album).
Unbreakable Heartbreaker Invincible Heaven Can Wait Break Of Dawn You Rock My World Butterflies Whatever Happens are all happening tracks. Cry Don't Walk Away You Are My Life Privacy 2000 Watts Speechless all grew on me. Lost Children and Threatened are the only tracks I don't listen to regularly, but I don't think they're bad. I really can't say enough good things about "Unbreakable". MJ wanted that to be the first single for a reason. Such a blistering, danceable track with amazing ad-libs. [Edited 8/27/09 16:15pm] | |
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Graycap23 said: kenlacam said: Don't hate! 10 million sales IS a success, not "if u like it". that is a stupid thing to say. I don't buy music because other people like it. THAT is beyond stupid. ...Co-sign times 7 This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream | |
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I just bought invincible,Dangerous dvd and prince Come cd from Amazon.com | |
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