missfee said:

A more competent doctor would have never jeopardized his career by doing something as stupid as this. That's why MJ hired him, because this man lacked morals and common sense. A yes man enabler.

paisleypark4 said:

Then who do you blame when something goes wrong?

I'm kinda torn on the issue, myself. Yes, the doctor was wrong for enabling Michael. His debts and his greed stood in the way of his ethics as a physician. He should be held accountable. However, Michael must have wanted someone unethical because he knew an ethical Dr. would not have given him what he wanted.

I think Michael's problems were much bigger than insomnia and anxiety. Unfortunately, he didn't have and apparently didn't want to have people around him, that cared enough to get him the real help that he seriously needed.

There's plenty of fault to go around on this but Michael's untimely demise started with the man in his mirror. No message could be any clearer.

BklynBabe said:

As much as I hate to admit it, you're absolutely right.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Great post.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I can't argue with that. It's a sad state of affairs no matter how u dress it up. But I still loved MJ regardless!

uPtoWnNY said:

you shouldn't have to blame anybody.
but in this case, everybody is to blame.
stay doing right and you don't have to worry about wrong.

I'm sad for the outcome for MJ, because I'm sure he thought he could cheat death indefinitely, but he had his demons and they cost him his life. He put his arm out there for those injections. Even if the doctor was retarded to not even have monitoring devices, MJ was smart enough to think for himself too.

goosh i was crying about this yesterday it really bothers me, it wouldn't be so bad if he died of natural cause, or illness, but for someone to kill him. It hurts bad cause he would still be alive right now if it were for those people.

I miss him so much, his birthday is this Saturday coming. He didn't make it to 51.

My heart is hurting real bad, just hearing the word Homicide. That is disturbing.

Police: Michael Jackson's Doctor Waited 82 Mins. Before Dialing 911
August 25, 2009




After treating Michael Jackson all night for insomnia with various powerful drugs, the pop star's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, noticed the singer had stopped breathing around 11 a.m. on June 25, according to a police affidavit.

No less than 82 minutes would pass before a Jackson staffer dialed 911, apparently at the behest of Murray.

This and other alleged suspicious behavior was outlined Monday by an LAPD detective in an unsealed search warrant as part of the ongoing manslaughter investigation into Jackson's death. The document, however, made note that detectives are still determining whether the singer died because of a single doctor, or the "grossly negligent treatment of several doctors" over time.

Doctor on Phone

Murray told police he was continuously monitoring Jackson all night at the singer's Holmby Hills mansion and had administered what would be the singer's final dose of propofol, a hospital-strength anesthetic, at around 10:40 a.m. Murray stated he left Jackson's side for no more than two minutes to use the restroom, only to return to find his patient not breathing.

Police later obtained Murray's cell phone records, which revealed he was on the phone for 47 minutes – in three separate calls – beginning at 11:18 a.m., something he did not reveal to investigators, according to the affidavit. The document suggests Murray was either not paying full attention to Jackson's monitoring, or was frantically making calls following the discovery that the singer had stopped breathing.

On Monday, Murray's attorney, Ed Chernoff, said in a statement: "Much of what was in the search warrant affidavit is factual. However, unfortunately, much is police theory. Most egregiously, the timeline reported by law enforcement was not obtained through interviews with Dr. Murray, as was implied by the affidavit. Dr. Murray simply never told investigators that he found Michael Jackson at 11:00 a.m. not breathing."

No Word About Propofol

The detective's report also alleges that Murray never informed paramedics or emergency room staff that he'd given Jackson propofol – lethal amounts of which were found in the singer's body by the L.A. coroner. Murray said only that he'd given Jackson the sedative lorazepam and an antidote. Police also say Murray refused to sign the death certificate at UCLA Medical Center, where the singer was pronounced dead.

Shortly thereafter, detectives were called to the hospital to aid in the coroner's investigation, but they were unable to locate Murray despite repeated attempts to reach him, the affidavit adds.

Moreover, police say a search of Jackson's home turned up a variety of sedatives and other prescription drugs in multiple vials and bottles – none of which were labeled as prescribed to any patient. There has also been no traceable record of any propofol purchases under Murray's medical license number, according to the document.

Murray, who had been hired by Jackson around March or April of this year and had administered propofol intravenously to the singer nightly for six weeks prior to his death, has consistently denied any wrongdoing.

Meanwhile, the L.A. coroner's office, which has yet to release a full autopsy report due to the LAPD's ongoing investigation, has reportedly ruled the singer's death a homicide.


http://www.people.com/peo...94,00.html

His sad life ends tragically. Wish he had died in peace.

I'm not even angry anymore. Murray's gonna get his but in the meantime, MJ I hope you're finally resting.

Timmy84 said:

Me too. It's crushingly sad still though, the fact it was so avoidable makes it worse. Oh Mike!

Timmy84 said:

Amen!

Marrk said:

Exactly.

BklynBabe said:

do you really believe that, Bbabe?

In fashion,music and the performing arts there are enablers every two steps you walk down the street. Before the advent of Micky&Mallory 24/7 reality tv stalking/coverage, this sort have thing has gone on forever with celebrities in film, tv, music and high fashion. I don't think the issue with this doctor has to do with competence. Competence was determined by virtue of where this physician went to school, passed the Bar, and was able to renew his liscence throughout his career....with a patient roster that didn't just have Michael Jackson on it.

However if you want to talk about ethics...then Girl....that right there is where we coould have a field day.

true it has nothing to do with competence, per se....

but obviously this man not only lacked ethics, but was, indeed, incompetent!

a more competent doctor would have had monitoring and a back up plan.

BklynBabe said:

Alright, and that therin is where ya got me....cold blooded, but true, Girl.

Timmy84 said:

I will say Amen to that too.
I will forever remember MJ like the clip below; young, with the most soulful beautiful eyes and full of talent.

whatsgoingon said:

Cute clip.

Competence aside.....I feel sorry 4 the doctor quite honestly.
Mj was a mess.....who need that amount of drugs just 2 sleep?
And why?

suga10 said:

Don't sugarcoat it, Jackson was an addict (admittedly so)....and please do not forget that exercising full authority against a celebrity client can have adverse consequences. Philosopher and medical physician Deepak Chopra discussed Michael's drug issues openly, shortly after his death and the public trumpets sounded from MJ fans to tear Chopra down was deafening, dumbfounding and completely irrational. I just really believe that once you become a physician to a star of a certain magnitude, you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't, so once you sign on you had better damned well get your paycheck as fast as you can and break from them at your earliest opportunity----otherwise you will be setting yourself up to catch fucked up pieces of a situation that was long in motion before you even set foot through thr work door....and once you're locked in there will be no means nor method of escape...

Graycap23 said:

I feel sorry 4 every1 in this tragic debacle, especially the doc and MJ. The type of junk he was administered was enough to knock out Ray Lewis and most of his Baltimore Ravens defensive unit! And MJ weighed at best 125 lbs. with clothes on soaking wet. Just sad!

No ethical doctor keeps giving medicine to make a person sleep, and above the medications gives Propofol right after, without taking into account that a negative reaction might occur.

Dr. Conrad Murray is an idiot who had no right to administer Propofol. He was more like a drug dealer, instead of a doctor.

noimageatall said:

And Joseph as well.

And what clown introduced Michael to propofol in the first place as a sleeping agent???

comegetwild said:

MICHAEL JACKSON wasn't concerned with his health or well being either.

I hope this doctor gets the lightest sentence possible. Michael Jackson could not be stopped nor could he be forced to account for his choices including the procurement of a pharmacy's worth of drugs. It's coming out that he had all these alliases in order to get more and more drugs. He was out of control, obviously.

This doctor is obvioulsy incompetent but I hope this factors into any sentencing he gets. Michael Jackson bought the gun, loaded it, handed it to the doctor and helped him pull the trigger. I hope this is considered in this case. With or without this doctor Michael would have ended up dead from overdose.

suga10 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Lets us understand THIS.....

Michael's biggest problem was his ego!

Even if some people were available to give the man good advice, Michael would have most likely have those same people fired/laid-off if the advice doesn't lean in favor of Michael's vision of doing things.

SefraNSue said:

I would not have. I would have defended him against such accusations.
I have been stunned that Michael Jackson, was a drug abuser.
I would never have expected it from him, even after his rehab stint.

TonyVanDam said:

good point but let's be real here...men and their egos. enough said
[Edited 8/25/09 12:46pm]

BabyBeMine said:

Past drug use may be relevant. Demonstrating tolerance to certain drugs for instance.