independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Lethal Levels of Anesthetic Killed Michael Jackson
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 08/24/09 1:52pm

ehuffnsd

avatar

Lethal Levels of Anesthetic Killed Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson died of "lethal levels" of the powerful anesthetic propofol, according to a search warrant affidavit unsealed today in Houston.

The court documents quote the L.A. County coroner's office as reaching that conclusion after an autopsy of the pop star.

The documents address one of the major unanswered questions surrounding Jackson's death. But they also raise new questions about how Jackson was treated, particularly in the hours before his death.

Conrad Murray, Jackson's personal doctor, told detectives with the Los Angeles Police Department that he had been treating Jackson for insomnia for about six weeks. He had been giving Jackson 50 milligrams of propofol every night using an intravenous line, according to the court records.

But Murray told detectives that he feared Jackson was forming an addiction and began trying to wean the pop star off the drugs. He lowered the dosage to 25 milligrams and mixed it with two other sedatives, lorazepam and midazolam. On June 23, two days before Jackson's death, he administered those two medications and withheld the propofol.

On the morning Jackson died, Murray tried to induce sleep without using propofol, according to the affidavit. He said he gave Jackson valium at 1:30 a.m. When that didn't work, he said, he injected lorazepam intravenously at 2 a.m. At 3 a.m., when Jackson was still awake, Murray administered midazolam.

Over the next few hours, Murray said he gave Jackson various drugs. Then at 10:40 a.m., Murray administered 25 milligrams of propofol after Jackson repeatedly demanded the drug, according to the court records.

Although Murray acknowledged to police that he administered propofol, authorities said they could find no evidence that he had purchased, ordered or obtained the medication under his medical license or Drug Enforcement Administration tracking number. However, police detectives saw about eight bottles of propofol in the house along with other vials and pills that had been prescribed to Jackson by Dr. Murray, Dr. Arnold Klein and Dr. Allan Metzger.

Other drugs that were confiscated in the search included valium, tamsulosin, lorazepam, temazepam, clonazepam, trazodone and tizanidine. They also found propofol in Murray’s medical bag. Murray told detectives that he was not the first doctor to administer the powerful anesthetic to Jackson.

At least two unidentified doctors gave Jackson propofol in Germany. Between March and April 2009, Murray said he called Las Vegas doctor David Adams at Jackson’s request to arrange for Adams to administer propofol. Murray said he was present at a cosmetologist’s office, where Adams used propofol to sedate Jackson. Since he began treating Jackson, Murray said he repeatedly asked the pop star what other physicians were treating Jackson and what drugs they were prescribing. But Jackson declined to provide the information, Murray told authorities.

Murray said he noticed injection marks on Jackson’s hands and feet. When he asked Jackson about them, the pop star told him he had been given a “cocktail” to help him. In addition to Murray, authorities subpoenaed medical records from Dr. Arnold Klein, Dr. Allan Metzger and Dr. David Adams, the affidavit states. They also asked for medical records from Dr. David Slavitt, who conducted the independent medical examination of Jackson for Anschuntz Entertainment Group, Dr. Randy Rosen and nurse practitioner Cherilyn Lee. They also subpoenaed records from Dr. Mark Tadrissi, who stored medical records with Adams.
Jackson’s doctor told authorities he left Jackson’s bedside for no more than two minutes before returning to find the pop star not breathing. Jackson reportedly fell asleep at 10:40 a.m.

Murray said after monitoring Jackson for 10 minutes, he left to use the restroom. When he returned and saw Jackson wasn’t breathing at 11 a.m. He immediately began attempting to revive Jackson, administering CPR as well as a drug to reverse the effects of the sedative. But police are questioning that account. Cellphone records for the morning of June 25 show Murray made three separate phone calls for approximately 47 minutes beginning at 11:18 a.m.

He called Jackson’s personal assistant to request that they send security upstairs. After a few minutes without a response, Murray told authorities he ran downstairs to the kitchen. He asked the chef to send Jackson’s eldest son, Prince Jackson, upstairs. Murray said he continued CPR and waited for the arrival of paramedics.

Murray has already acknowledged obtaining and administering propofol to Jackson the morning that the pop star died. In an interview with police, Murray told them that he had left Jackson alone under the influence of the medication to make telephone calls to his Houston office and family members.

When he returned, he discovered Jackson was not breathing. He performed CPR, and one of Jackson’s staff members called 911. The 50-year-old pop star was rushed to UCLA Medical Center, where he was later declared dead. Much of the investigation has focused on propofol -- a drug typically administered by anesthesiologists during surgery -- and whether Murray’s decision to give it to Jackson as a sleep aid outside a hospital setting reaches a level of negligence required for an involuntary manslaughter charge.

http://latimesblogs.latim...ckson.html
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 08/24/09 2:00pm

SoulAlive

what a shame.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 08/24/09 2:07pm

DesireeNevermi
nd

On June 23, two days before Jackson's death, he administered those two medications and withheld the propofol.

On the morning Jackson died, Murray tried to induce sleep without using propofol, according to the affidavit. He said he gave Jackson valium at 1:30 a.m. When that didn't work, he said, he injected lorazepam intravenously at 2 a.m. At 3 a.m., when Jackson was still awake, Murray administered midazolam.

Over the next few hours, Murray said he gave Jackson various drugs. Then at 10:40 a.m., Murray administered 25 milligrams of propofol after Jackson repeatedly demanded the drug, according to the court records.


so for 2 to 3 days he continuously doped up MJ in a futile attempt to undope him. that mofo needs to be in prison like two months ago. mad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 08/24/09 2:16pm

JackieBlue

avatar

As a doctor administering prescription drugs in a 48-hour window, at what point do you stop or tell the patient 'no'?
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 08/24/09 2:24pm

shorttrini

avatar

JackieBlue said:

As a doctor administering prescription drugs in a 48-hour window, at what point do you stop or tell the patient 'no'?


My mom, who is a retired nurse, just said the same thing...
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 08/24/09 2:24pm

Timmy84

JackieBlue said:

As a doctor administering prescription drugs in a 48-hour window, at what point do you stop or tell the patient 'no'?


That dude was a drug dealer. Real doctors would've told him this was dangerous.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 08/24/09 3:14pm

DesireeNevermi
nd

JackieBlue said:

As a doctor administering prescription drugs in a 48-hour window, at what point do you stop or tell the patient 'no'?



Apparently you never say "no" to the cash cow even if said cow is about to die.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 08/24/09 3:21pm

suga10

Roast that b*tch Murray mad

Bye bye Murray, off you go to jail.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 08/24/09 3:23pm

DesireeNevermi
nd

suga10 said:

Roast that b*tch Murray mad

Bye bye Murray, off you go to jail.



clapping co-sign that shit 100 times!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 08/24/09 3:32pm

babynoz

eek

That's a lotta drugs and a lotta doctors.

Murray's probably going down for manslaughter but there may be some misconduct on the part of others too.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 08/24/09 3:32pm

DesireeNevermi
nd

babynoz said:

eek

That's a lotta drugs and a lotta doctors.

Murray's probably going down for manslaughter but there may be some misconduct on the part of others too.



I won't hold my breath. sad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 08/24/09 3:33pm

seeingvoices12

avatar

suga10 said:

Roast that b*tch Murray mad

Bye bye Murray, off you go to jail.


I said it many times, arrest His ass already ....Fuckin bastard.

all what MJ wanted few hours of sleep, put his ass in jail..


Jackson Family Statement


LOS ANGELES (BNO NEWS) -- Michael Jackson's PR firm released the following statement on Monday after media reports suggested that the star's death was ruled a homicide by the Los Angeles County coroner.

"The Jackson family has full confidence in the legal process, and commends the ongoing efforts of the L.A. County Coroner, the L.A. District Attorney and the L.A. Police Department.

The family looks forward to the day that justice can be served
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 08/24/09 4:39pm

dreamfactory31
3

Arrest his ass!! mad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 08/24/09 4:42pm

IAintTheOne

ya do know once his ass goes to jail...he's a dead man right>
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 08/24/09 4:42pm

Timmy84

IAintTheOne said:

ya do know once his ass goes to jail...he's a dead man right>


Yep.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 08/24/09 4:47pm

babynoz

IAintTheOne said:

ya do know once his ass goes to jail...he's a dead man right>


You took the words right out of my mouth. I bet they're waiting for his ass in lockup.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 08/24/09 5:08pm

kaptainkrunk

that bitch know he killed michael now his ole stankin african ass talkin about the truth im a black american and i aint shame 2 say [Snip - luv4u]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 08/24/09 5:08pm

Timmy84

kaptainkrunk said:

that bitch know he killed michael now his ole stankin african ass talkin about the truth im a black american and i aint shame 2 say [Snip - luv4u]


He's West Indian.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 08/24/09 5:12pm

seeingvoices12

avatar

Michael Jackson Doctor Conrad Murray Suicide Watch

Dr. Conrad Murray, the cardiologist under investigation in the death of Michael Jackson, is on suicide watch at his luxurious Las Vegas home.



Pals of Dr. Murray, 55, fear he may try to take his own life rather than face second-degree murder or manslaughter charges over Jackson’s death in Los Angeles on June 25.

“He won’t come out because he can’t come out,” a neighbor said he is believed to be on the edge of a breakdown. “He’s become the most hated man in the world.”

On Monday, Dr. Murray recorded a public statement, thanking his patients for their support.

http://www.popcrunch.com/68506/
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 08/24/09 5:14pm

lastdecember

avatar

Timmy84 said:

JackieBlue said:

As a doctor administering prescription drugs in a 48-hour window, at what point do you stop or tell the patient 'no'?


That dude was a drug dealer. Real doctors would've told him this was dangerous.


Honestly this is what happend to Elvis (except we had no media then) and Heath Ledger, and Anna Nicole and .....the list goes on and on.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 08/24/09 5:15pm

IAintTheOne

seeingvoices12 said:

Michael Jackson Doctor Conrad Murray Suicide Watch

Dr. Conrad Murray, the cardiologist under investigation in the death of Michael Jackson, is on suicide watch at his luxurious Las Vegas home.



Pals of Dr. Murray, 55, fear he may try to take his own life rather than face second-degree murder or manslaughter charges over Jackson’s death in Los Angeles on June 25.

“He won’t come out because he can’t come out,” a neighbor said he is believed to be on the edge of a breakdown. “He’s become the most hated man in the world.”

On Monday, Dr. Murray recorded a public statement, thanking his patients for their support.

http://www.popcrunch.com/68506/




y'think? fuckin up is fuckin up..... this is BEYOND FUCKIN' UP
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 08/24/09 5:21pm

Timmy84

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:



That dude was a drug dealer. Real doctors would've told him this was dangerous.


Honestly this is what happend to Elvis (except we had no media then) and Heath Ledger, and Anna Nicole and .....the list goes on and on.


Yeah. I think Elvis, Heath and Anna and 'em really were clueless about who to trust and whoever was treating them committed negligence that led to their deaths too.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 08/24/09 5:22pm

seeingvoices12

avatar

IAintTheOne said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Michael Jackson Doctor Conrad Murray Suicide Watch

Dr. Conrad Murray, the cardiologist under investigation in the death of Michael Jackson, is on suicide watch at his luxurious Las Vegas home.



Pals of Dr. Murray, 55, fear he may try to take his own life rather than face second-degree murder or manslaughter charges over Jackson’s death in Los Angeles on June 25.

“He won’t come out because he can’t come out,” a neighbor said he is believed to be on the edge of a breakdown. “He’s become the most hated man in the world.”

On Monday, Dr. Murray recorded a public statement, thanking his patients for their support.

http://www.popcrunch.com/68506/




y'think? fuckin up is fuckin up..... this is BEYOND FUCKIN' UP


I really don't know if he wants to suicide or not lol , I saw the article and I posted it, but anything is possible eek He looks shady as hell.
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 08/24/09 5:40pm

BklynBabe

avatar

suicide watch? I say give him a bottle of propofol and 5 minutes. He's done.

Actually I don't have a problem with the drugs, because I do believe MJ asked for it, and I do believe that many people found it hard to tell MJ "no" because he had an "off with their heads" attitude, and I do believe many people in the past had told MJ over and over again that it was wrong and dangerous and he continued to play Russian roulette with his own life in this way. He willingly stuck his arm out for this man to give him a very dangerous drug!

At the same token, this doctor is the stupidest man to ever live to risk his life and license and livelihood for the quick buck. And what I really find shameful is first off, he should have said "fuck naw" to MJ and just not have played the game. But after he chose to play the stupid game, he should have covered his ass, and had breathing and blood monitoring devices, and a little revival hospital. He knew he was playing with drugs that decrease respiration and he had NOTHING but an oxygen tank. That's a dumbass. How hard would it have been to buy a pulse ox.

And what is really getting him in trouble in the huge time delay that he called himself giving CPR....because he knew he was fucked as soon as he found MJ not breathing and he should have called 911 immediately. MJ was probably dead for hours before he was taken to a hospital....and again this man knew he had gien him drugs so what the hell was he waiting for. That's the lack of common sense thought that tells me he might as well hang himself and be done with it becasue he will never be practicing medicine again, and I don't even want to pull up to a Mickey D's and see this fool trying to microwave me a hamburger. He's done.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 08/24/09 6:19pm

PurpleGstring

avatar

WOW I just saw that information role across my t.v.

Dr. Murray's days will probably be numbered....this is how the story on greed for money ends.
music
None of them got what it takes
2 B a future baby mama
Gotta bend in the wind, but don't break
2 keep your man
Show me 1 of them and I'll make her mine
With no more drama
Future baby mama
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 08/24/09 7:01pm

suga10

seeingvoices12 said:

IAintTheOne said:





y'think? fuckin up is fuckin up..... this is BEYOND FUCKIN' UP


I really don't know if he wants to suicide or not lol , I saw the article and I posted it, but anything is possible eek He looks shady as hell.


He's not going to get more than just a several years in jail since its manslaughter.

Then again who knows. I was thinking this was a manslaughter.
[Edited 8/24/09 19:02pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 08/24/09 7:03pm

JayJai

avatar

I wonder how his family here are feeling...this is really fucked up neutral
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 08/24/09 7:27pm

728huey

avatar

BklynBabe said:
suicide watch? I say give him a bottle of propofol and 5 minutes. He's done.

Actually I don't have a problem with the drugs, because I do believe MJ asked for it, and I do believe that many people found it hard to tell MJ "no" because he had an "off with their heads" attitude, and I do believe many people in the past had told MJ over and over again that it was wrong and dangerous and he continued to play Russian roulette with his own life in this way. He willingly stuck his arm out for this man to give him a very dangerous drug!

At the same token, this doctor is the stupidest man to ever live to risk his life and license and livelihood for the quick buck. And what I really find shameful is first off, he should have said "fuck naw" to MJ and just not have played the game. But after he chose to play the stupid game, he should have covered his ass, and had breathing and blood monitoring devices, and a little revival hospital. He knew he was playing with drugs that decrease respiration and he had NOTHING but an oxygen tank. That's a dumbass. How hard would it have been to buy a pulse ox.

And what is really getting him in trouble in the huge time delay that he called himself giving CPR....because he knew he was fucked as soon as he found MJ not breathing and he should have called 911 immediately. MJ was probably dead for hours before he was taken to a hospital....and again this man knew he had gien him drugs so what the hell was he waiting for. That's the lack of common sense thought that tells me he might as well hang himself and be done with it becasue he will never be practicing medicine again, and I don't even want to pull up to a Mickey D's and see this fool trying to microwave me a hamburger. He's done.


Before you all go on a lynch mob after this doctor, remember that it was Michael who chose him to be his personal physician in the first place, and that he was getting paid by AEG to make sure that he was ready for this concert tour. Now as a physician he should have known better than to administer a whole cocktail of drugs during such a short period of time, but if Michael had been awake for more than 24 hours and was screaming for him to administer this Propofol or else he was fired, he probably would have been sued by AEG for not doing his duties (although it would have been the correct action in the first place).

What's tragic is that because a beloved pop icon is dead, there's intense public pressure to pin the blame on someone for his death, yet it was Michael Jackson himself who was on this path of destruction. It's well known that he had been an addict since at least 1993, and he'd been shopping around for drugs and doctors since 2002.

typing
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 08/24/09 8:39pm

babynoz

728huey said:

BklynBabe said:
suicide watch? I say give him a bottle of propofol and 5 minutes. He's done.

Actually I don't have a problem with the drugs, because I do believe MJ asked for it, and I do believe that many people found it hard to tell MJ "no" because he had an "off with their heads" attitude, and I do believe many people in the past had told MJ over and over again that it was wrong and dangerous and he continued to play Russian roulette with his own life in this way. He willingly stuck his arm out for this man to give him a very dangerous drug!

At the same token, this doctor is the stupidest man to ever live to risk his life and license and livelihood for the quick buck. And what I really find shameful is first off, he should have said "fuck naw" to MJ and just not have played the game. But after he chose to play the stupid game, he should have covered his ass, and had breathing and blood monitoring devices, and a little revival hospital. He knew he was playing with drugs that decrease respiration and he had NOTHING but an oxygen tank. That's a dumbass. How hard would it have been to buy a pulse ox.

And what is really getting him in trouble in the huge time delay that he called himself giving CPR....because he knew he was fucked as soon as he found MJ not breathing and he should have called 911 immediately. MJ was probably dead for hours before he was taken to a hospital....and again this man knew he had gien him drugs so what the hell was he waiting for. That's the lack of common sense thought that tells me he might as well hang himself and be done with it becasue he will never be practicing medicine again, and I don't even want to pull up to a Mickey D's and see this fool trying to microwave me a hamburger. He's done.


Before you all go on a lynch mob after this doctor, remember that it was Michael who chose him to be his personal physician in the first place, and that he was getting paid by AEG to make sure that he was ready for this concert tour. Now as a physician he should have known better than to administer a whole cocktail of drugs during such a short period of time, but if Michael had been awake for more than 24 hours and was screaming for him to administer this Propofol or else he was fired, he probably would have been sued by AEG for not doing his duties (although it would have been the correct action in the first place).

What's tragic is that because a beloved pop icon is dead, there's intense public pressure to pin the blame on someone for his death, yet it was Michael Jackson himself who was on this path of destruction. It's well known that he had been an addict since at least 1993, and he'd been shopping around for drugs and doctors since 2002.

typing


Mike was a willing participant in his own destruction no doubt about it. However, we can't just let unscrupulous MDs run around willy-nilly administering potentially fatal substances without any accountability.

What should be done about health care professionals who dispense legal drugs inappropriately?
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 08/24/09 8:55pm

BklynBabe

avatar

728huey said:

[
Before you all go on a lynch mob after this doctor, remember that it was Michael who chose him to be his personal physician in the first place, and that he was getting paid by AEG to make sure that he was ready for this concert tour. Now as a physician he should have known better than to administer a whole cocktail of drugs during such a short period of time, but if Michael had been awake for more than 24 hours and was screaming for him to administer this Propofol or else he was fired, he probably would have been sued by AEG for not doing his duties (although it would have been the correct action in the first place).

What's tragic is that because a beloved pop icon is dead, there's intense public pressure to pin the blame on someone for his death, yet it was Michael Jackson himself who was on this path of destruction. It's well known that he had been an addict since at least 1993, and he'd been shopping around for drugs and doctors since 2002.

typing


how hard would it have been to say no? to say sorry MJ but if I did this right now it could kill you? to have correct monitoring if you are doing to do something so asininely foolish?

dude hadn't even gotten paid yet, so he killed the golden goose....

dumbass of the century award goes to



you are the weakest link. buh-bye, now.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Lethal Levels of Anesthetic Killed Michael Jackson