Except that he had discernable talent, and she's a walking gimmick.

I get exactly what you are saying, though I mostly disagree.
Personally I think she can sing. She is certainly not the greatest, but she is expressive & is more than capable of delivering a song.
Also, a technically perfect vocal is a fractionally small element to deserving a record deal. It is the entertainment industry, & entertain is exactly what she does! She is a good pop songwriter, & an engaging performer with a strong sense of style. If this weren't true that she doesn't deserve a deal based on her vocal ability, Prince probably wouldn't have made it past the Dirty Mind period, as his live vocals were far from perfect.

The point I was making about it being commonplace for vocals to be processed isn't a reflection of the singer. As a producer myself, I know that it is almost compulsory (in most musical genres) to process & "clean up" vocals this way. Even if the vocalist is capable. (it came into practice to make those that can't sing, sound good... but has since been used across the board to make everything sound much more uniform & polished)
It's like in print media, where images are almost always airbrushed & retouched... even if the subject of the image is naturally beautiful.

I personally find it sad that it is going this way, but it's not the fault of the artists... more that of the "system" & consumer demand.

I believe that Gaga deserves to be where she is, & as I have said, I feel it fortunate that she has come along. Love her or hate her, she serves to break up the mediocrity that dominates. I am optimistic about what we may see in music over the coming years.

(D')

yeah, it's not like she can sing, or play piano or anything...

psh.

i would of figured people on this forum would of been more open minded...

really, if you put aside the biasness, you can really realate to how Lady Gaga is mirroring Prince in early fame in a way.

...not that I hold singers in high regard...

or write and produce songs for herself or others.

oh shit, maybe she is trying to be just like prince

Why not ?

or write and produce songs for herself or others.

oh shit, maybe she is trying to be just like prince

and Bowie. and Madonna. and Debbie Harry. and Grace Jones... the list goes on and on. Prince actually comes pretty far down on the list of the people she's aping.

This.

I'd probably like her if she ever decided to just stick to being Lady Gaga...

why? none of the people I mentioned ever stuck to one thing, and they've all put forth various personae to great benefit. why should Lady GaGa just stick to being Lady GaGa?

thank god for Lady GaGa, I say. yeah, she may be derivative of a slew of folks who've done similar things in the past, but at least there's someone out there carrying that forward with some personality and some great, fun, catchy dance pop and isn't afraid to potentially make an ass out of themselves because of the way they dress or perform.

I think that's why she's so popular. People have been starved for this kind of act since about the early 90's when everyone had to start acting so "real" and "sincere" and serious all the time at the expense of personality and flair and fun.

She just got a 6 inch clit.

because SO MANY friggin people can sing...I had said in my post that even the grammy at the local baptist church can sing. U gotta be able to sing AND do suummin else...be it slutty, dance, play, be crazy.....u can't just sing....everyone and they mama sing....even people who CAN'T sing, sing.




it's like holding people who can walk in high regard....fuckin EVERYONE walks....Sorry Mr. Ali and Mr. Hawking.
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