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Reply #150 posted 08/22/09 2:03am

trueiopian

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Janet's the greatest female artist of all time!

Indeed! mushy
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Reply #151 posted 08/22/09 6:01am

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The Critics like Madonna more. just saying.
Rolling Stone top 500 albums of all time:
Madonna's albums
Like a Prayer #237
Ray of Light #363
Music #452
Immaculate Collection #278

Janet
Rhythm Nation 1814 #275
Velvet Rope #256

this shows that Madonna has had acclaimed albums in three decades, meaning throughout her career, while Janet has long past her prime. They are both Great dancers with limited voices, but Madonna focuses on the strength on her Albums while Janet focuses on having her tit fall out on the annually most watched event in history. At least little kids were never intentionally subjected to see Madonna's tit.
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Reply #152 posted 08/22/09 6:36am

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oh and lets not forget that Madonna's Cherish inspired Janet Jackson to get Herb Ritts to direct her Love Will Never Do Video. In fact Madonna is the one that talked Herb into music video directing.



janet. was a response to Erotica.
[Edited 8/21/09 17:07pm]


yeah and Janet's video was more memorable.

janet. was a response to Erotica? Why because it was about sex? yup I forgot Madonna invented that concept too.

Please take her off a pedestal!
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Reply #153 posted 08/22/09 10:07am

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The Critics like Madonna more. just saying.
Rolling Stone top 500 albums of all time:
Madonna's albums
Like a Prayer #237
Ray of Light #363
Music #452
Immaculate Collection #278

Janet
Rhythm Nation 1814 #275
Velvet Rope #256

this shows that Madonna has had acclaimed albums in three decades, meaning throughout her career, while Janet has long past her prime. They are both Great dancers with limited voices, but Madonna focuses on the strength on her Albums while Janet focuses on having her tit fall out on the annually most watched event in history. At least little kids were never intentionally subjected to see Madonna's tit.



Rolling Stone? The same people that ranked Bob Dylan in the top 10 of the 'Greatest Singers of All Time' list? lol mad

Madonna isn't a dancer! Doing aerobics isn't dancing hun falloff
and you say Janet's focus was on having her tit fall out? BS! You must be a prude lol
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Reply #154 posted 08/22/09 10:17am

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lol popcorn
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Reply #155 posted 08/22/09 10:31am

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sorry She cannot dance like janet, nor can she sing.

Do you know the ICONIC dance moves to "If" and "Rhythem Nation"

what ICONIC dance moves has Madonna inspired. cause i don't remember any lol lol lol



clearly Madonna has never had Iconic dance moves or inspired other artists

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SORRY JODY WATLEY WAS VOGUEING LONG BEFORE MADONNA lol lol lol
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Reply #156 posted 08/22/09 10:33am

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jiorjios said:



Why are you getting nervous and talking about talent like it is something measurable? I disagree with you period. And I said to u that I do like Janet and actually Rhythm Nation and That's The Way Love Goes are two of the best songs of all time. But Madonna for me is better. And, like it or not, that is the opinion of the majority of the buying public worldwide. You have every right to differ. But don't push your opinions on me as a matter of fact because they are not and anyway what you are doing is childish


Again, popularity doesn't equate to good!! Donny Hathway and Phyllis Hyman are great examples of that!! both died without much love from the public but both were amazing artists nod

lol lol EXACTLY. popularity means nothing. AND MADONNA IS ONLY POPULAR, cause the media hypes her up, and puts her out there. Madonna is overrated. and she had to sell her soul to be famous. That is why she is so popular.

NOtice madonna fans will only talk about popularity and business savy. But what does that have to do with talent?????

If the media worshiped janet just as much as Madonna, i bet some of these people would sing a different tune.
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Reply #157 posted 08/22/09 10:36am

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RKJCNE said:

The Critics like Madonna more. just saying.
Rolling Stone top 500 albums of all time:
Madonna's albums
Like a Prayer #237
Ray of Light #363
Music #452
Immaculate Collection #278

Janet
Rhythm Nation 1814 #275
Velvet Rope #256

this shows that Madonna has had acclaimed albums in three decades, meaning throughout her career, while Janet has long past her prime. They are both Great dancers with limited voices, but Madonna focuses on the strength on her Albums while Janet focuses on having her tit fall out on the annually most watched event in history. At least little kids were never intentionally subjected to see Madonna's tit.

what does the media and popularity have to do with talent????? lol lol

The media is satanic and madonna worships the devil SO OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO FAVOR THEIR OWN.
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Reply #158 posted 08/22/09 10:40am

midiscover

TotalAlisa said:

midiscover said:



Again, popularity doesn't equate to good!! Donny Hathway and Phyllis Hyman are great examples of that!! both died without much love from the public but both were amazing artists nod

lol lol EXACTLY. popularity means nothing. AND MADONNA IS ONLY POPULAR, cause the media hypes her up, and puts her out there. Madonna is overrated. and she had to sell her soul to be famous. That is why she is so popular.

NOtice madonna fans will only talk about popularity and business savy. But what does that have to do with talent?????

If the media worshiped janet just as much as Madonna, i bet some of these people would sing a different tune.


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Reply #159 posted 08/22/09 10:43am

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Just how the media does not want to give michael the title of "The greatest entertainer of all time"... They are not going to put Janet above madonna.

And believe michael has earned his titled, and Janet's TALENT far succeeds Madonna.
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Reply #160 posted 08/22/09 10:43am

Timmy84

This thread definitely has nowhere to run to, baby, nowhere to hide:



lol
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Reply #161 posted 08/22/09 10:47am

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

This thread definitely has nowhere to run to, baby, nowhere to hide:



lol


Come back to this time , Timmy lol

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Reply #162 posted 08/22/09 10:49am

Timmy84

midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:

This thread definitely has nowhere to run to, baby, nowhere to hide:



lol


Come back to this time , Timmy lol



hmph!



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Reply #163 posted 08/22/09 11:03am

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janet has a better voice...and can dance better...

but madonna has that unabashed free spirit goining for her...

i will take janet...her recent stuff is garbage though
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Reply #164 posted 08/22/09 3:21pm

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well the reason I admire Madonna is the fact that she has accomplished so much with so little talent...
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Reply #165 posted 08/22/09 3:30pm

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BklynBabe said:

well the reason I admire Madonna is the fact that she has accomplished so much with so little talent...

lol

Both artisic Infulence= ZERO.

Both medoicre Talent at best.

I prefer Janet..... biggrin
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Reply #166 posted 08/22/09 3:42pm

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well, hell if I had known I could make millions and not really have to know how to sing or dance, just have a good hustle and flash some pussy, I would have chosen a different path in life....

I really do admire Madonna! That's some serious determination to succeed!!
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Reply #167 posted 08/22/09 4:30pm

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You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #168 posted 08/22/09 8:46pm

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I ain't voting on this sh*t but I just wanted to clarify one point. Neither Janet nor Madonna are too be credited for the handless mic craz.

Oh yeah, baby:




The tour, during which Bush changed costume 17 times a night, was highly influential on musicians to follow. The hand-free microphone popular with acts today was essentially created for Kate Bush by her sound man, who bent a coat hanger to hold a mike directly in front of her mouth. Overly expensive, the tour was marred by the death of Bill Duffield, Bush's lighting director, in April 1979. Since that tour, Bush has engaged in only limited live concert appearances, usually in support of charities.


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Reply #169 posted 08/22/09 8:57pm

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sosgemini said:

I ain't voting on this sh*t but I just wanted to clarify one point. Neither Janet nor Madonna are too be credited for the handless mic craz.

Oh yeah, baby:




The tour, during which Bush changed costume 17 times a night, was highly influential on musicians to follow. The hand-free microphone popular with acts today was essentially created for Kate Bush by her sound man, who bent a coat hanger to hold a mike directly in front of her mouth. Overly expensive, the tour was marred by the death of Bill Duffield, Bush's lighting director, in April 1979. Since that tour, Bush has engaged in only limited live concert appearances, usually in support of charities.




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You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #170 posted 08/23/09 8:39am

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midiscover said:



Rolling Stone? The same people that ranked Bob Dylan in the top 10 of the 'Greatest Singers of All Time' list? lol mad

Madonna isn't a dancer! Doing aerobics isn't dancing hun falloff
and you say Janet's focus was on having her tit fall out? BS! You must be a prude lol


First of all, Bob Dyaln is amazing, and the criteria was about more than vocal skills, byt lyricism too.

Madonna can dance, videos like Express yourself, Vogue, American Life, Don't tell me, Human Nature, Lucky Star. show a dancer who can do choreography
Videos like Papa don't preach, Like a prayer, 4 Minutes, Ray of Light, etc. show she can groove without choreography.

Janet and Madonna have very similarly limited vocal abilities, and both can dance. I like Madonna more for variety of music, better songwritting skills, better lyrics and better live concerts.

I'm no prude, but no one show expose themselves on something CHILDREN watch. that's wrong.

my point was although Janet has a couple classic albums, Madonna has more. Madonna has spent more time and focus on creating amazing albums, while Janet has thrown together crap like Damita Jo, 20 Y.O., Discipline. Madonna has created brilliant albums like Ray of Light, Like a Prayer "The Closest pop will ever get to being art" - Rolling Stone, Music, Bedtime Stories. etc.

you keep saying this can't be judged on popularity or acclaim, then what can it be judged by? cause everything else is subjective. therefore a waste of time.
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Reply #171 posted 08/23/09 11:17am

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janet has come nowhere near the perfection that was the Passion Section of Blonde Ambition



You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #172 posted 08/23/09 11:38am

midiscover

Janet IS perfection.
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Reply #173 posted 08/23/09 4:26pm

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midiscover said:

ehuffnsd said:


really??!?! So when Madonna decided to change the way tours were performed in 1990, we don't see the affect that had on shows today?


Point where do we see the affect??



falloff

You're lying to yourself!!

Janet's influence:

Janet


Imitators

Whatever You Want is a total rip-off of You Want This!

Janet


Imitator



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ehuffnsd said:

and why was Madonna elected in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on her first year and Janet won't get in until after the 25 anniversary of Control?


HELLO!! Bobby Womack was inducted till this year!! Janet will be inducted soon!!


In the words of an immortal Orger who is indeed dearly missed...

PREACH THAT SHIT!!!! headbang
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Reply #174 posted 08/23/09 6:14pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

midiscover said:



HELLO!! Bobby Womack was inducted till this year!! Janet will be inducted soon!!


In the words of an immortal Orger who is indeed dearly missed...

PREACH THAT SHIT!!!! headbang

except the video is a lift from Faster Pussy Cat! Kill! Kill! the first time i watched that movie i was like HOT DAMN this is where Janet got the idea.
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Reply #175 posted 08/24/09 6:29am

midiscover

ehuffnsd said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



In the words of an immortal Orger who is indeed dearly missed...

PREACH THAT SHIT!!!! headbang

except the video is a lift from Faster Pussy Cat! Kill! Kill! the first time i watched that movie i was like HOT DAMN this is where Janet got the idea.


And?? The only things she took was the props and scenery! She incorporated it into her video. I think it's brilliant! At least she knows how to create something for herself!

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Reply #176 posted 08/24/09 6:52am

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My vote goes to Madonna
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Reply #177 posted 08/24/09 7:16am

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starbuck said:

My vote goes to Madonna


Yeah maybe if this was in 2000 I would have went for Janet.

Since then it seemed like Madonna cared a little more about her career than Janet as in artistic style and music.

Music - Nice!
American Life - SUCKED BIG TIME
Confessions On A Dancefloor was coo..but too personal.
Hard Candy is probably my fav. Madonna album of all time


All For You - Aiight
Damita Jo - Coo; some nice jams
20 YO - Mixed bag
Discipline - Ok but no personality.

As in image and presentation in the last 9 years I give it to Madonna for supporting all her albums they way she wanted to and the videos were better too.

Music - Hawt
Don't Tell Me - HAWT
What It Feels Like 4 A Girl - excited
American Life - NICE! Throw those bombs!
Hollywood - Aiight
Die Another Day - HAWT!
Love Profusion - Creative, stylish but tame.
Hung Up - dancing jig
Get Together - HAWT
Jump - dancing jig
Sorry - Fun
4 Minutes - Very creative and fun to watch
Give It 2 Me - Meh.


All 4 U - HAWT
Somone To Call My Lover - shrug
Son Of A Gun - Fun
Doesnt Really Matter - never felt that song or video shrug
I Want You - Meh
All Nite Dont Stop - Ok
So Excited - dancing jig
Call On Me - Very creative and stylish
Rock With You - Fun!
Feedback - dancing jig


My experiences in total visual and tour rides with Madonna alot more the past 9 years. Janet has done some too, however it seems like she is just stuck in a rud of what to do next. I get the same experience from Janet, the same interviews...nothing in her life has really happened until this year. I love the fact she is acting again, LOVE IT. Maybe it will inspire inspiration again for a big meaningful project. And Michael's passing really hurt her. I hope she can reach inside herself from all the drama this year to bring out that pain and love into her work.
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Reply #178 posted 08/24/09 7:23am

VoicesCarry

paisleypark4 said:

starbuck said:

My vote goes to Madonna


Yeah maybe if this was in 2000 I would have went for Janet.

Since then it seemed like Madonna cared a little more about her career than Janet as in artistic style and music.

Music - Nice!
American Life - SUCKED BIG TIME
Confessions On A Dancefloor was coo..but too personal.
Hard Candy is probably my fav. Madonna album of all time


I stopped reading there, because that last statement stopped me dead in my tracks. Hard Candy your favourite Madonna album. Really?!?! neutral It's so unfathomable to me lol I think that's easily the worst album she's cut - she's never been so uninspired, boring and generic.
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Reply #179 posted 08/24/09 7:38am

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The Critics like Madonna more. just saying.
Rolling Stone top 500 albums of all time:
Madonna's albums
Like a Prayer #237
Ray of Light #363
Music #452
Immaculate Collection #278

Janet
Rhythm Nation 1814 #275
Velvet Rope #256

this shows that Madonna has had acclaimed albums in three decades, meaning throughout her career, while Janet has long past her prime. They are both Great dancers with limited voices, but Madonna focuses on the strength on her Albums while Janet focuses on having her tit fall out on the annually most watched event in history. At least little kids were never intentionally subjected to see Madonna's tit.


This is Rolling Stone. The magazine that puts the Olsen Twins and Zac Efron on the cover. Call me crazy, but I don't think anyone's taken them seriously in years.
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