LightOfArt said:

'Hard Candy' has a song called "Devil Wouldn't Recognize You".How would she know what a devil could,or couldn't,recognize? Makes you wonder.....

Marketing, reinventing herself and sheer brazen business savvy: MADONNA hands down!

Everything else: JANET...Ms. Jackson...if you're nasty!

SoulAlive said:

Neither

midiscover said:

i didn't say she was better at anything.

midiscover said:

Madonna's use of control of her sexuality and business is what female artists are going for. No one exemplifies that more than Madonna. Outside of the US Janet is just Michael's little sister. Everywhere Madonna is Madonna.

TD3 said:

ehuffnsd said:

Yes young female singers are much more influenced from Janet. But that is just because Janet was always R&B and R&B is what sells today. I mean if u wanna go R&B obviously Janet is the best one to immitate. But Madonna is also an influence in terms of sexuality, business, image, control over her persona and in Europe also in terms of music. Younger acts such as Kylie, Dannii and all the pop acts to come out of the UK in the late 90s and early 00s were clearly immitating Madonna and Abba.

TotalAlisa said:

I wrtoe a looong message but Im at work and it got erased accidentally.

Summerize it.

Im tired of Janet not putting any effort in her music. She is losing the core fanbase. Im not even that excited abotu her music anymore because a lack of growth. I used to get a diffrent experience everytime now not so much a change in style of music or personal image.

Madonna may have not been shocking me or making me that excited as she used to but I have to admit, Hard Candy gave me chills how funky she was getting down...she gave me chills how beutiful her image was on the Confessions Tour, she made me think on the American Life album...she still has mystery and flair to her image and her personal growth have been quite more intresting than Janet's. Plus the songs....the songs have so much personality and honesty. Janet has been losing me in the last 4 albums..not because of her dancing or videos..but just personality. Seems as if music is a secondary...having people write all her songs for her on her last album didnt help at all either.

Enough Hawaiian Silky #8, enough scantily clad images and bonding, enough whicspeing and cooing. SCREAM! Take control...stop being shy...take charge...show these young girls they cant hold a candle to you again. Madonna been showing these h*-- how to sell out arenas for the past 10 years..she is the main feamle pimp in the game right now.

This is a hard decision because they both have made some music that I really love but they both have also done some things that I can't stand like running around with shit hoppers and even letting it enter into their music.

I guess I'll go with Madonna though because when she was a slut, she was a bold slut that would flaunt it in your face. She was a good slut and she was proud to be a slut. And I love me some sluts.

Both! I refuse to choose.

AlexdeParis said:

Co-sign.

LightOfArt said:

OH MY GOOSH. she is with the beast. This women is serious when it comes to that stuff. She even said she is tormented. That is why madonna NEVER looks happy.

How can you be when you are dancing with satan. Look at Beyonce as well, she seems to fake smiles and pretend she is happy. But i can clearly see she is not.

paisleypark4 said:

if you evaluate janet's best vs madonna's best. JANET WINS.

even if madonna is still selling or getting more attention its not because her music is better or she is more talented. Its because is doing things to stay on top. Of course satan is going to keep her on top, because she is willing to do whatever it takes.


Madonna has people write music for her. It might not be from a human, but believe she is NOT coming up with that stuff on her own. All the recent songs of Madonna I have heard are LAME, compared to any janet's album since AFY to Discipline. Even with janet not being as popular and losing fans, her music, dance, voice, is still better. And during janet's peak, she is better then madonna now.

ehuffnsd said:

what does people considering janet micheal's little sister have to do with talent?????

You guys are basing stuff on sales, popularity, and who is a media whore.

If it you go down to the real stuff like music, dancing abilities, vocals, and looks. I think it would NOT be madonna.

and if female artist are trying to achieve what madonna has, all they have to do is sell their souls

TotalAlisa said:

As a person who doesnt believe in "the devil" I feel it is a God Given blessing to even be able to sing, dance, and be business savvy to last for so long in the game and be able to raise children in the same time. You cannot be judgemental of someone elses life and lifestyle as one cannot do the same to you. NO one is "holier than the next..we all are equal.

Not to argue with you but you can also say then that Michael Jackson and Janet sold their soul to "the devil" for thir God given talents too. Its not fair to someone who works tirelessly to please their fans and disgrade them for "religious bebefit". It hurts no one but yourself baby girl. Love U much
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TotalAlisa said:

you'll love this than


Madonna reading the Bible
[Edited 8/21/09 14:19pm]

ehuffnsd said:

yes even satan reads the bible. SO WHATS YOUR POINT????

madonna is only reading the bible to mock it.

TotalAlisa said:

do you actually listen to it? since you mentioned the Beast this would be a good one for you.

TotalAlisa said:

because outside of the US janet is just michael's little sister.

ehuffnsd said:

Bullshit!

You act as if Madonna was the first to be open about sexuality! When people were doing this way before her even in the the 1920's!! Every female pop act are trying to be Janet and you know it!! Stop lying to yourself!



And for your information popularity doesn't equate to talent or good. Adolf Hitler is one of the most famous people in the world that doesn't mean he's a great person. The whole Janet vs. Madonna is kind of like the Elvis Presley vs. Little Richard debate. People swear Elvis was the first to do what he did and is dubbed the King of Rock n' Roll when in reality he is just another imitator.

jiorjios said:

Ehh you clearly don't know jack what your talking about!! Janet's not an R&B artist the closest thing she did to R&B was the Damita Jo album but that even was closer to Pop more than anything. Janet is a Pop artist who turned to Urban music to further career which we all know was a big ass NO!

And you say pop acts were copying Madonna based of her "sexuality, business, image, control over her persona" Sexuality? and what does business have to do with being an overall entertainer/artists? image? control over her persona doesn't even make sense!! The only thing I see artists emulating from Madonna is her way with the media! She's really smart on how to attract attention and Britney Spears obviously copies that. But other than that I don't see her influence no where on music and performance. That's all Janet!

Madonna all the way. esp. as a songwriter.

Although listening to both at times is on par with a violent bowel movement, I will give it to Madonna.

Michael's little sister doesn't do anything for me.

midiscover said:

really??!?! So when Madonna decided to change the way tours were performed in 1990, we don't see the affect that had on shows today?

Even your supposed better choice follows the formula that Madonna started with her Blond Ambition Tour.

The Madonna album is credit by some as being one of the foundations of the Dance and Dance pop that came after the Fall of Disco.

i don't think Janet can claim to being the foundation of any music style or changed the way many see and do live shows.

and why was Madonna elected in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on her first year and Janet won't get in until after the 25 anniversary of Control?

ehuffnsd said:

again WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH TALENT?????

ehuffnsd said:

oh i really don't want to listen to anything that has a title beast within. SOrry But i stay away from madonna, beyonce and britney.

for those who picked madonna

please explain who she is a better dancer, and how she sings better, and why you think she looks better.

Im just confused

TotalAlisa said:

it's just the words of the bible

Janet and Madonna progenitor Betty Davis doesn't approve of this thread.

Timmy84 said:

Actually i think Bette Midler is the progenitor. She predates even Betty Davis but only by a year or two.