midiscover said:

well, at least she seems to shave now

unlike in her early years NSFW!!

midiscover said:

Excuses,excuses

If she tours in the future,she may have a hard time getting people to buy tickets.They will assume that she's gonna get sick and cancel dates again.

RKJCNE said:

Indeed it is She actually broke her own record for most successful tour by a female artist...

Confessions Tour 2006 (grossed $194.7 million)
Sticky And Sweet Tour 2008 (grossed $280 million,and these numbers don't even include the 2009 dates)

RKJCNE said:

Madonna hasn't been lyrically interesting for a while now. Feedback may be innuendo, but at least it's about something. Can you please tell me *what* 4 Minutes was supposed to be about? It wasn't sex, but it wasn't anything else coherent, either. The lyrics made zero sense. Although Madonna was grinding in the video with a guy half her age.

I think that, like Janet, Madonna has gotten increasingly lazy and self-indulgent. She repeats similar themes on her albums (the price of fame, her relationship with her parents, etc.) only the songs are of increasingly poor quality. While her songs aren't explicitly about sex these days, they aren't really about much else, either. They certainly can't compare to the material from Like a Prayer or Erotica.
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ehuffnsd said:

So then Cliff Richard must be some amazing artist?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

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bottom line, either you like janet or madonna or both...

But to say Madonna is more talented, that is just a joke.

She can't dance nor sing as good as janet.


Other factors such as reinvention and popularity can be discussed.

But they don't equate talent. Isn't Christina A, more talented then britney, but yet britney is more popular?????


Madonna got her break by first selling her soul, and then sleeping her way to the top. That is something janet jackson did NOT have to do.
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SoulAlive said:

I ask WHAT DOES POPULARITY have to do with talent?????


You keep speaking about "Success" but what about the talent.

SoulAlive said:

No that won't happen
She's hot commodity since MJ died

OMFG!!!!! DJLKFLJD K

There's more to come and it's important that u guys get EVERYTHING 1st! I love you!!!about 18 hours ago from web

midiscover said:

No, but the recent output is not anything diffrent than what the Pussycat Dolls or other r&b artists were doing

paisleypark4 said:

Madonna isn't any different
HARD CANDY!?!? Confessions on the Dance floor is nothing different just Euro Electronica!!

midiscover said:

100000% cosign

TotalAlisa said:

Yeah but those are two totally diffrent sounding albums...Janet's last albums were almost interchangeable with eachother from All 4 U to Discipline.

RKJCNE said:

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paisleypark4 said:

PP$, that is janet's style and sound. Either you like it or you dont.

But i enjoy her music. And i actually like that she doesn't change up to much. Janet is still stuck in an a 80s, 90s vibe and i like it.

midiscover said:

no it's michael that's the hot commodity.

Hey ehuffnsd

RKJCNE said:

i forgot one:

and lets not forget Madonna has done Live Aid Live 8 and Live Earth.

ehuffnsd said:

I like this one alot.

TotalAlisa said:

Of course success doesnt equal talent, success is quantifiable, and success is subjective. One thing is for sure, more people want to see madonna live than they do janet....ditto buy her records.

I love both artists but Janet post 2000 has been a shadow of her former self, as has madonna, but to a lesser extent, and at least she still drives her career with some degree of commitment and enthusiasm.

Janet only ever got into this industry through being a Jackson. period. Madonna made it off her own back. Sure she used people on the way up, but everyone has done it, including Janet. Ultimately her demo tape that got her signedwas completely made up of songs written by herself and Steven Bray. Janet got her deal through her surname.

Dont get me wrong.....Control, RN1814, Janet, Velvet Rope will all remain cherished albums in my collection for years to come, but madonna is on another level to her in many respects. Their dancing cant be compared as its totally different styles....ditto their singing (neither are particularly strong). As i said before their respective talents, and degree of, is a completely subjective matter.

paisleypark4 said:

OH HELL NO!!! All for You is a classic! you're cleary a f-ing hater that probably didn't even bother listening 2 Janet's music!!

and 2 the person above me Janet got a record because of Joe!Which is one foot through the door.
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CrozzaUK said:

midiscover said:

you call anyone a hater who disagrees with you
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Janet wrote all the songs on Control except 4 The Pleasure Principle which was meant for Prince who btw wanted 2 work with her during that time. Kudos to Madonna for working her way up. It's not Janet's fault that she was born into a musical family
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midiscover said:

yeah it's not her fault that she was born in to a musicial family with no musical talent herself.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

That's why u have her listed as one of ur fav. artist,right?

TotalAlisa said:

We could sit here all day and argue about who we THINK is more talented,a better dancer,blah blah blah,but that's all subjective.It's just a matter of opinion.If we're gonna compare the two,let's also disuss things that cannot be disputed,such as ticket sales and other accomplishments.Last year,Madonna was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and she had the most successful tour of her career.Those are the kind of accomplishments that I'm interested in.

CrozzaUK said:

You got that right, madonna was lying right on her back, to get into this music industry.


madonna does NOT even have any iconic dance moves. NOTHING. But janet does.

Janet is not as popular as madonna. I can't even really say what i want, cause it will cause a big fuss, but i KNOW for a fact there is one factor that really separates the two.

Madonna could NEVER do rhythm nation, nor IF. Or even what janet did on the velvet rope. If madonna was that great a dancer she would have shown us this already.

More people want to see Britney, then christina. But does that mean britney is more talented. NOOOOO

its all about popularity.....

midiscover said:

i like her 90s work. I have specified that in my profile. I like control, janet and the velvet rope...and some tracks off of rhythm nation. her music and overall style has gone completely downhill in the last decade.