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Reply #60 posted 08/23/09 8:25am

Jeffiner

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He's done some jazzy type stuff on "The Rainbow Children" and even that horrible "NEWS" album. He's gone classical with "Karma Sutra". He's also done too many shit hop songs to name. Yeah, he's done plenty of genres that he should have never done except for country and he needs to stay away from that too. lol


You don't think he was verging on it with 'The One U Wanna See' ??? wink
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Reply #61 posted 08/23/09 9:29am

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This beg the quesion: what level is Prince actually on?
He's not at top of charts nor has he been for more than a single week.
He has hysterically rabid fans,that he seems to disregard, until he decides to tour. So I guess that's an achievement razz
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Reply #62 posted 08/23/09 9:56am

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Kanye West is the "Prince" of this generation with the ego and the hustle of Prince, the musical quirkiness, and the attitude.
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Reply #63 posted 08/23/09 12:02pm

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Prince IS a genius, to be sure, and while there are some approaching his level (many to be exact) the only one I can think of that has had the amount of impact he has while being a great artist at the same time is Garth Brooks. And yes I'm serious.

Garth revolutionized country music bringing in both a rawness and sincerity, but also a more rock/pop edge when everything was just bs slick stuff. He mixed in plenty of outside elements like Prince did back in the day and while I wouldn't call him a genius, he's the only one I can think of who is a truly great artist that's also been very commercially successful on a level few can claim.

Plus, he's a better singer than Prince could ever hope to be. wink
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Reply #64 posted 08/23/09 4:04pm

Harlepolis

PFunkjazz said:

This beg the quesion: what level is Prince actually on?
He's not at top of charts nor has he been for more than a single week.
He has hysterically rabid fans,that he seems to disregard, until he decides to tour. So I guess that's an achievement razz


falloff

True lol
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Reply #65 posted 08/23/09 6:03pm

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And resposne to the question would be no one of your generation because only a
young person would judge musical albilty on the looks of an artist.


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What is Prince's level?

Seriously - Prince's impact in the music world seems to be a bit like a cult following like The Grateful Dead (whom I don't care for).

I respect Prince's musical ability and creativity - but the drag queen look has always thrown me for a loop. Same vibe I felt about Michael Jackson and all the androgynous folks.
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Reply #66 posted 08/23/09 6:22pm

exenn

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Prince IS a genius, to be sure, and while there are some approaching his level (many to be exact) the only one I can think of that has had the amount of impact he has while being a great artist at the same time is Garth Brooks. And yes I'm serious.

Garth revolutionized country music bringing in both a rawness and sincerity, but also a more rock/pop edge when everything was just bs slick stuff. He mixed in plenty of outside elements like Prince did back in the day and while I wouldn't call him a genius, he's the only one I can think of who is a truly great artist that's also been very commercially successful on a level few can claim.

Plus, he's a better singer than Prince could ever hope to be. wink


Well put. I will always be a fan of "The Dance". There was a time when I was sick of being bombarded with Garth Brooks' music/videos/commercials, etc., but I actually miss him in the music scene of today.

Out of curiousity, would you equate Chris Gaines with a prince name change?
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Reply #67 posted 08/23/09 7:21pm

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i may get attacked for this but,

Christina Aguilera is proving to be one hell of an artist.
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #68 posted 08/23/09 7:25pm

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Nobody in this era of music
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Reply #69 posted 08/24/09 1:11am

Cotontige

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roisin murphy is pretty damn good


Ohh yeah this chick is good ! I discovered her not so long ago, good & catchy electronic music !

(Im not saying she's on Prince level you vultures lol)
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Reply #70 posted 08/24/09 1:23am

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hrmph So what does "newer artists" mean? Could have sworn Garth Brooks first appeared out 20 years ago hmmm By that account we could throw in Trent Reznor, Beck or Dave Grohl.
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Reply #71 posted 08/24/09 7:00am

Prints

it is impossible to compare Prince with anybody. It is hard to define levels. In charts many artists have had more no 1 hits, but what does it mean for us in prince.org? Some artists have won more Grammys - let's say Alicia Keys, but is she at Price's level? I think not.

I believe Miles, MJ, Joni, Stevie and the Beatles have been on the same level in terms of creativity and at some point in their artistic image and freedom, but I can't see anybody in today's music even close to that.

But as history has proved it is certainly possible that somebody with huge talent and creativity will come along and will achieve similar kind of respect that Prince has gained from public and music industry professionals.
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Reply #72 posted 08/24/09 9:58am

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PFunkjazz said:

This beg the quesion: what level is Prince actually on?
He's not at top of charts nor has he been for more than a single week.
He has hysterically rabid fans,that he seems to disregard, until he decides to tour. So I guess that's an achievement razz

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Do you think the people at the top of the chart are at P's level artistically?

Do you think any of them will be around in 20 years? You don't have to like the dude but be sensible and give credit were credit is due.

In addtion, some so-called artist would give their right arm to have P's fan base but it is never gonna happen because they are too lazy and stupid to get out on the road and build their base.
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Reply #73 posted 08/24/09 10:00am

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"can think of that has had the amount of impact he has while being a great artist at the same time is Garth Brooks. And yes I'm serious. "

I will give it up to Garth. To what he did in country music was incredible but he is only a better singer if you enjoy boderline yoderling.






guitarslinger44 said:

Prince IS a genius, to be sure, and while there are some approaching his level (many to be exact) the only one I can think of that has had the amount of impact he has while being a great artist at the same time is Garth Brooks. And yes I'm serious.

Garth revolutionized country music bringing in both a rawness and sincerity, but also a more rock/pop edge when everything was just bs slick stuff. He mixed in plenty of outside elements like Prince did back in the day and while I wouldn't call him a genius, he's the only one I can think of who is a truly great artist that's also been very commercially successful on a level few can claim.

Plus, he's a better singer than Prince could ever hope to be. wink
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Reply #74 posted 08/24/09 11:48am

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Prince is one of a kind.
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Reply #75 posted 08/24/09 12:38pm

PFunkjazz

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laurarichardson said:

PFunkjazz said:

This beg the quesion: what level is Prince actually on?
He's not at top of charts nor has he been for more than a single week.
He has hysterically rabid fans,that he seems to disregard, until he decides to tour. So I guess that's an achievement razz

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Do you think the people at the top of the chart are at P's level artistically?

Do you think any of them will be around in 20 years? You don't have to like the dude but be sensible and give credit were credit is due.

In addtion, some so-called artist would give their right arm to have P's fan base but it is never gonna happen because they are too lazy and stupid to get out on the road and build their base.


No, but right now I don't consider Prince a major musical force. He has 3 or 4 consecutive albums that failed to spark any major interest. No doubt he has a dedicated fanbase for his work, but we already went over that part. All his classic catalog is great and jim-dandy and I'll gladly give him credit for anything new that gets me to perk up, but that just hasn't happened.
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Reply #76 posted 08/24/09 1:06pm

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Garth revolutionized country music bringing in both a rawness and sincerity, but also a more rock/pop edge when everything was just bs slick stuff. He mixed in plenty of outside elements like Prince did back in the day and while I wouldn't call him a genius, he's the only one I can think of who is a truly great artist that's also been very commercially successful on a level few can claim.

Plus, he's a better singer than Prince could ever hope to be.



You are kidding, right?

If anything, Garth Brooks represents what is WRONG about nowadays mainstream country: fake, polished 'country-pop' with rock-elements more blatant then Status Quo. He and his female counterpart, Shania Twain are to blame for it.

And he is definitely no better singer then Prince.
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Reply #77 posted 08/24/09 1:33pm

Graycap23

PFunkjazz said:

laurarichardson said:


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Do you think the people at the top of the chart are at P's level artistically?

Do you think any of them will be around in 20 years? You don't have to like the dude but be sensible and give credit were credit is due.

In addtion, some so-called artist would give their right arm to have P's fan base but it is never gonna happen because they are too lazy and stupid to get out on the road and build their base.


No, but right now I don't consider Prince a major musical force. He has 3 or 4 consecutive albums that failed to spark any major interest. No doubt he has a dedicated fanbase for his work, but we already went over that part. All his classic catalog is great and jim-dandy and I'll gladly give him credit for anything new that gets me to perk up, but that just hasn't happened.

Who would be on your list?
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Reply #78 posted 08/24/09 4:48pm

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Dude. Only list I got is people I pay my own good money to go see. Most of 'em ain't on any charts, but when I go see 'em the room or arena is fairly packed. Not sold out.

Here's who I saw so far this year:
Ben Harper, Martin Luther, Cody Chestnutt, Trulio Disgracias, Zap Mama (free), Soulive, Morris Day & The Time

Here's who I'm gonna see next month
Dawn Silva, Mandrill, Charles Wright, Leo Nocentelli, Gov't Mule, Lving Colour, 24-7 Spyz, Fishbone, Year OF The Dragon, Majesty One, Oscar Jordan

And I'll go see these folks soon as they tour out west:
Earl Greyhound, Daniela Cotton, Ledisi, Les Claypool, Porter, Batiste & Stoltz, Derek Trucks Band, Karl Denson Tiny Universe and Trio
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Reply #79 posted 08/24/09 11:33pm

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PFunkjazz said:

laurarichardson said:


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Do you think the people at the top of the chart are at P's level artistically?

Do you think any of them will be around in 20 years? You don't have to like the dude but be sensible and give credit were credit is due.

In addtion, some so-called artist would give their right arm to have P's fan base but it is never gonna happen because they are too lazy and stupid to get out on the road and build their base.


No, but right now I don't consider Prince a major musical force. He has 3 or 4 consecutive albums that failed to spark any major interest. No doubt he has a dedicated fanbase for his work, but we already went over that part. All his classic catalog is great and jim-dandy and I'll gladly give him credit for anything new that gets me to perk up, but that just hasn't happened.


Could it be he didn’t get any spark as u say, because he never got any airplay? Hell the only people who know what’s going on in Prince world is Prince Fans. If Prince got any airplay, it would be a different story. Hell, listen 2 the crap that’s played repeatedly on radio.

The answer 2 the question is No, not n our lifetime
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Reply #80 posted 08/25/09 7:57am

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exenn said:

guitarslinger44 said:

Prince IS a genius, to be sure, and while there are some approaching his level (many to be exact) the only one I can think of that has had the amount of impact he has while being a great artist at the same time is Garth Brooks. And yes I'm serious.

Garth revolutionized country music bringing in both a rawness and sincerity, but also a more rock/pop edge when everything was just bs slick stuff. He mixed in plenty of outside elements like Prince did back in the day and while I wouldn't call him a genius, he's the only one I can think of who is a truly great artist that's also been very commercially successful on a level few can claim.

Plus, he's a better singer than Prince could ever hope to be. wink


Well put. I will always be a fan of "The Dance". There was a time when I was sick of being bombarded with Garth Brooks' music/videos/commercials, etc., but I actually miss him in the music scene of today.

Out of curiousity, would you equate Chris Gaines with a prince name change?


BUt you gotta admit, Garth was a musical force in his prime much the way Prince was, and like Prince, he took a lot of chances artistically.

I don't know that I'd equate the Chris Gaines album with P's name change. The CG album was supposed to be the soundtrack for a movie that was never released, though there's some great music on that record, including a couple fantastic R&B influenced numbers. Garth's a pretty good soul singer.
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Reply #81 posted 08/25/09 8:00am

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laurarichardson said:

"can think of that has had the amount of impact he has while being a great artist at the same time is Garth Brooks. And yes I'm serious. "

I will give it up to Garth. To what he did in country music was incredible but he is only a better singer if you enjoy boderline yoderling.


Garth's got more flexibility in his voice than Prince does, IMO. And if Garth's yodeling, then Prince is borderline whining. razz
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Reply #82 posted 08/25/09 8:04am

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Riverpoet31 said:

Garth revolutionized country music bringing in both a rawness and sincerity, but also a more rock/pop edge when everything was just bs slick stuff. He mixed in plenty of outside elements like Prince did back in the day and while I wouldn't call him a genius, he's the only one I can think of who is a truly great artist that's also been very commercially successful on a level few can claim.

Plus, he's a better singer than Prince could ever hope to be.



You are kidding, right?

If anything, Garth Brooks represents what is WRONG about nowadays mainstream country: fake, polished 'country-pop' with rock-elements more blatant then Status Quo. He and his female counterpart, Shania Twain are to blame for it.

And he is definitely no better singer then Prince.


YOU'RE kidding right? lol

I'm going to bet you've listened to exactly 3 Garth Brooks songs to have that opinion. So miss me with all that. Hate if you want, but the man sparked a revolution and a new interest in country that no one else had been able to up to that point. And as I said, he took a lot of artistic chances most artists wouldn't have the balls to take.

BTW, country has ALWAYS been pop music. They've been mixing rock with it since the 60's. Anyone who thinks Hank Williams wasn't a pop singer has never listened to him. Sorry, but it's a fact.

Also, PRINCE makes polished pop music with rock elements that, at times is pretty status quo, so uh.... eek
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Reply #83 posted 08/25/09 12:02pm

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...goes to Prince fan site...
...asks "who else is on Prince's level?"...
...fanbots answer "nobody"...
...My work here is done. evillol

There are lost of artists that are musically heads and shoulders above Prince.
There are lots of much better singers and composers than Prince.
There are more prolific artists than Prince.
Prince, however, is a good combination of all of the above elements rolled into a pop package.
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Reply #84 posted 08/25/09 12:03pm

Graycap23

BlaqueKnight said:

...goes to Prince fan site...
...asks "who else is on Prince's level?"...
...fanbots answer "nobody"...
...My work here is done. evillol

There are lost of artists that are musically heads and shoulders above Prince.
There are lots of much better singers and composers than Prince.
There are more prolific artists than Prince.
Prince, however, is a good combination of all of the above elements rolled into a pop package.

.....waiting on the list.....
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Reply #85 posted 08/25/09 12:10pm

DIAMONDGEEZA

im totally openminded when it comes 2 music and even though i listen to old and new there isnt one that comes close to prince.i seen sheena easton describe prince as a modern-day mozart,which is just about right.
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Reply #86 posted 08/25/09 12:14pm

Zannaloaf

BlaqueKnight said:

...goes to Prince fan site...
...asks "who else is on Prince's level?"...
...fanbots answer "nobody"...
...My work here is done. evillol

There are lost of artists that are musically heads and shoulders above Prince.
There are lots of much better singers and composers than Prince.
There are more prolific artists than Prince.
Prince, however, is a good combination of all of the above elements rolled into a pop package.


yeahthat
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Reply #87 posted 08/25/09 12:18pm

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Graycap23 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

...goes to Prince fan site...
...asks "who else is on Prince's level?"...
...fanbots answer "nobody"...
...My work here is done. evillol

There are lost of artists that are musically heads and shoulders above Prince.
There are lots of much better singers and composers than Prince.
There are more prolific artists than Prince.
Prince, however, is a good combination of all of the above elements rolled into a pop package.

.....waiting on the list.....


right, put me on the path!
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Reply #88 posted 08/25/09 12:40pm

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PFunkjazz said:

laurarichardson said:


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Do you think the people at the top of the chart are at P's level artistically?

Do you think any of them will be around in 20 years? You don't have to like the dude but be sensible and give credit were credit is due.

In addtion, some so-called artist would give their right arm to have P's fan base but it is never gonna happen because they are too lazy and stupid to get out on the road and build their base.


No, but right now I don't consider Prince a major musical force. He has 3 or 4 consecutive albums that failed to spark any major interest. No doubt he has a dedicated fanbase for his work, but we already went over that part. All his classic catalog is great and jim-dandy and I'll gladly give him credit for anything new that gets me to perk up, but that just hasn't happened.

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Musicolgy sparked interest and I think 3121 and Loutusflower are great records.
It is kind of hard to spark interest when radio will not play independent records and puts the ban on you if your over 40.

I have heard no new music this year from anyone getting anywhere near P's level not compared to what he doing now or what he did in the past.
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Reply #89 posted 08/25/09 12:42pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

...goes to Prince fan site...
...asks "who else is on Prince's level?"...
...fanbots answer "nobody"...
...My work here is done. evillol

There are lost of artists that are musically heads and shoulders above Prince.
There are lots of much better singers and composers than Prince.
There are more prolific artists than Prince.
Prince, however, is a good combination of all of the above elements rolled into a pop package.

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And in some century you will give us a list of these artist because at this point none of the naysayers has come up with anyone.

I wonder why that is?
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