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Reply #120 posted 09/01/09 5:21pm

PPKING

emilio319 said:

emilio319 said:



I will help you but I'm at work right now.... I will try and give you a good reply in about an hour or two when I'm home. I have the dvd in question and yes it IS great but I am a hardcore Sananda fan, I have everything by the man and then some, so I dig everything he has put out. So to me, I definitely think the dvd is worth getting. Will reply with more info in a few....



Okay, so all I wanted to add is.... Yes, I do think the dvd is great. If I remember correctly, all the songs performed are from Angels & Vampires along with "O Divina" (from Wildcard). The dvd also contains the following bonus features: interview with Sananda, interview with his band (in Italian), the videos for "Bella Faccina" and "South Side Run," and 2 additional mini-concert performances from 2007. Definitely worth getting. In addition, I would recommend that you check out some of the great concert footage on his website:
http://www.sanandamaitrey...certs.html

You can also see great footage at his youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/us...eyasananda

So yeah, I highly recommend the dvd and everything else Sananda has released...
His last 2 albums ("Angels & Vampires Vol. 1 & 2" and "Nigor Mortis") are fantastic, as are all his previous albums as well. Hope this helps.




Thank you so much!!!smile

I just ordered the Live @ Blue Note Milano DVD and the cds Wildcard, Angels & Vampires Vol. 1 & 2" and "Nigor Mortis.
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Reply #121 posted 09/01/09 5:36pm

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Never knew this til now but he's a Pisces. Should have figured that from the get go lol
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Reply #122 posted 09/01/09 8:26pm

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NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:


lol.....I can ONLY define it 4 myself.
TTD's new music is DEVOID of a lot of things. I sense his living in Europe has a LOT 2 do with that.


I think he lived in England even before Hardline

He did.
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Reply #123 posted 09/02/09 4:37am

PPKING

Why the name change to Sananda?


Is this an religous thing? Is he a buddhist or something?
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Reply #124 posted 09/02/09 6:06am

Graycap23

blackguitaristz said:

NDRU said:



I think he lived in England even before Hardline

He did.

How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)
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Reply #125 posted 09/02/09 7:05am

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Graycap23 said:

blackguitaristz said:


He did.

How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)


Oh come ON, Gray... U can't be serious.

He's lived in Italia mostly, where there has always been PLENTY of soul. Luther Vandross' best stuff was with Change.

As far as England goes... they were hip 2 what is now called "neo-soul" waaaayyy before America was. 'D-Influence', 'Young Disciples', Carleen Andersen... back then we called it "Alternative R&B".
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #126 posted 09/02/09 7:08am

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I have been told by a friend who dated him for a year or so that TTD is an actual genius. This surprised me because of my friends stature in the music industry and her critical nature. She said the difficulty for D'Arby was that conceptually most of the music he was beyond the grasp of his audience at that time. That's very general I know, but I was startled to hear it coming from her. She also said he was a tad eccentric.
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Reply #127 posted 09/02/09 7:09am

Graycap23

Giovanni777 said:

Graycap23 said:


How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)


Oh come ON, Gray... U can't be serious.

He's lived in Italia mostly, where there has always been PLENTY of soul. Luther Vandross' best stuff was with Change.

As far as England goes... they were hip 2 what is now called "neo-soul" waaaayyy before America was. 'D-Influence', 'Young Disciples', Carleen Andersen... back then we called it "Alternative R&B".

I'm talking about TTD.....ONLY.
How do u go from Vibrator (which was GREAT) 2 the stuff he is doing now?
What is the deal?
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Reply #128 posted 09/02/09 7:27am

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i would say that "vibrator" was great - and i think he took some time doing it ... a few years etc ...

the album after vibrator- that took a few years also ... and i like that "almost" as much as vibrator ....

the newer stuff i totally admit .. i havnt been able to get into at all ... i am not a big fan of "downloading" and it seems so inferior in just the sound quality ... that i have heard (vampires and whatever , and nigormortis or whatever i haave heard ... i tried to listen again the other night - hoping i would get into it sum ... ) neutral
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Reply #129 posted 09/02/09 8:31am

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The 'Angels and Vampires" & 'Nigor Mortis' discs both appreared in the mail 2 days ago. Naturally it's going to take time to absorb over 60 combined tracks, but I can tell you that so far, just as I expected, the tracks are rich in melodies and lyricism.
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Reply #130 posted 09/03/09 8:16am

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That song, Holding On To You, is it a parady?! A pisstake?!

Those are the WORST lyrics I ever heard in my life!

My god, I couldn't listen to that regularly - I'd die laughing!



well TTD and MJ are legends on the org.....even more popular than Prince

sad but true
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Reply #131 posted 09/03/09 8:28am

Copycat

Prince who? wink
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Reply #132 posted 09/03/09 8:48am

PPKING

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Prince who? wink




Prince is a vegan. In 2006 he was voted the "world's sexiest vegetarian" in PETA's annual online poll
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Reply #133 posted 09/03/09 9:06am

Copycat

Good for him, but how is that germane to the ongoing discussion about Sananda?
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Reply #134 posted 09/03/09 9:10am

PPKING

Copycat said:

Good for him, but how is that germane to the ongoing discussion about Sananda?


?????


You asked "Prince Who ??"


I´ve just answered your question cool
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Reply #135 posted 09/03/09 9:24am

Copycat

^
Yeah man, whatevah. You got jokes.


noimageatall said:

Graycap23 said:

He LOST his soul after the name change.


No...he found it...

fishslap



I agree.
It was at that time that his music became more focused than ever.
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Reply #136 posted 09/03/09 10:18am

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Graycap23 said:

blackguitaristz said:


He did.

How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)


I don't know what it is. It seems like the band is not soulful.

I see him performing with a three piece, and he's not really a great guitar player that I can tell, but he's carrying the full load.

On the Angels & Vampires stuff that I heard, the drumming was terrible. Also the musical style is more rock, less soul.

There are hints at the stuff that made his earlier stuff (even Wild Card) great, but I don't hear the complete product anymore.
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Reply #137 posted 09/03/09 10:28am

Graycap23

NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:


How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)


I don't know what it is. It seems like the band is not soulful.

I see him performing with a three piece, and he's not really a great guitar player that I can tell, but he's carrying the full load.

On the Angels & Vampires stuff that I heard, the drumming was terrible. Also the musical style is more rock, less soul.

There are hints at the stuff that made his earlier stuff (even Wild Card) great, but I don't hear the complete product anymore.

Me either. Something is definitely missing.
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Reply #138 posted 09/03/09 12:23pm

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Graycap23 said:

blackguitaristz said:


He did.

How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)

I just always took it as the cat wanted to go in a different direction. Being an artist isn't easy because to stay true to oneself, you're automatically subject to ridicule. Some artists attract that more than others largely based from things that has NOTHING to do with their music. In TTD/Sananda's case, the cat wanted to do some other things. Sometimes it won't go down well for many. The production on Angels...I would have to assume that's what homeboy wanted. Why? Maybe he was aiming for a certain sound in his mind and he didn't want to treat the production in the same manner as his previous joints. He may have shot for a certain "feel" or "vibe" and what he saw in his mind may or may not have matched the end result of the sound. Not making excuses for the cat, just trying to show different scenarios that may have gone down. I gotta give the cat the benifit of the doubt though cuz I think he has earned that.
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Reply #139 posted 09/03/09 12:29pm

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blackguitaristz said:

Graycap23 said:


How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)

I just always took it as the cat wanted to go in a different direction. Being an artist isn't easy because to stay true to oneself, you're automatically subject to ridicule. Some artists attract that more than others largely based from things that has NOTHING to do with their music. In TTD/Sananda's case, the cat wanted to do some other things. Sometimes it won't go down well for many. The production on Angels...I would have to assume that's what homeboy wanted. Why? Maybe he was aiming for a certain sound in his mind and he didn't want to treat the production in the same manner as his previous joints. He may have shot for a certain "feel" or "vibe" and what he saw in his mind may or may not have matched the end result of the sound. Not making excuses for the cat, just trying to show different scenarios that may have gone down. I gotta give the cat the benifit of the doubt though cuz I think he has earned that.


I think that's fair. I don't really get the direction of his latest sound, but it may be exactly what he's after and not that he has simply lost his soul.
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Reply #140 posted 09/03/09 12:58pm

Graycap23

blackguitaristz said:

Graycap23 said:


How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)

I just always took it as the cat wanted to go in a different direction. Being an artist isn't easy because to stay true to oneself, you're automatically subject to ridicule. Some artists attract that more than others largely based from things that has NOTHING to do with their music. In TTD/Sananda's case, the cat wanted to do some other things. Sometimes it won't go down well for many. The production on Angels...I would have to assume that's what homeboy wanted. Why? Maybe he was aiming for a certain sound in his mind and he didn't want to treat the production in the same manner as his previous joints. He may have shot for a certain "feel" or "vibe" and what he saw in his mind may or may not have matched the end result of the sound. Not making excuses for the cat, just trying to show different scenarios that may have gone down. I gotta give the cat the benifit of the doubt though cuz I think he has earned that.

I hear u.....
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Reply #141 posted 09/03/09 1:14pm

PPKING

Jumpin' Jack Flash - Sananda Maitreya -Concert Milan 1993

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

This rocks so hard love his version of this classic song
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Reply #142 posted 09/03/09 2:02pm

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Graycap23 said:

He LOST his soul after the name change.



Graycap, I get that you don't dig the latest Sananda stuff, but I ask you to LISTEN to this entire song and I challenge you to say that THIS is not extremely soulful and beautiful.....


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Reply #143 posted 09/03/09 2:08pm

Graycap23

emilio319 said:

Graycap23 said:

He LOST his soul after the name change.



Graycap, I get that you don't dig the latest Sananda stuff, but I ask you to LISTEN to this entire song and I challenge you to say that THIS is not extremely soulful and beautiful.....



I have his material but songs like this seem 2 be the exception lately.
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Reply #144 posted 09/03/09 2:09pm

emilio319

blackguitaristz said:

Graycap23 said:


How would u explain his lack of "soul"? (not vocally but music wise)

I just always took it as the cat wanted to go in a different direction. Being an artist isn't easy because to stay true to oneself, you're automatically subject to ridicule. Some artists attract that more than others largely based from things that has NOTHING to do with their music. In TTD/Sananda's case, the cat wanted to do some other things. Sometimes it won't go down well for many. The production on Angels...I would have to assume that's what homeboy wanted. Why? Maybe he was aiming for a certain sound in his mind and he didn't want to treat the production in the same manner as his previous joints. He may have shot for a certain "feel" or "vibe" and what he saw in his mind may or may not have matched the end result of the sound. Not making excuses for the cat, just trying to show different scenarios that may have gone down. I gotta give the cat the benifit of the doubt though cuz I think he has earned that.


Yeah I always thought that the "vibe" he was going for was like what some Beatles/Stones/60's soul records sounded like. At one point, Sananda wrote in one of his newsletters that the inspiration for the "sound" of his "Post Millenium Rock" were from a two album set that he had of Jimi Hendrix & Otis Redding Live at Monterey... At another point he also wrote that another influence for his current sound were the Rolling Stones albums that were produced by Jimmy Miller. Basically, I think he was going for a more stripped down, soulful sound that sounds more "live" and has less of that "perfect" and "glossy" sound that modern recordings have. I understand why some people don't get it. My opinion is that some of these people who don't get it are simply not used to hearing and enjoying that old-school sound. I personally feel like I DO get what he is trying to do and why he is trying to do it and I can definitely see the beauty in it. Just my opinion.
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Reply #145 posted 09/03/09 2:13pm

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emilio319 said:

blackguitaristz said:


I just always took it as the cat wanted to go in a different direction. Being an artist isn't easy because to stay true to oneself, you're automatically subject to ridicule. Some artists attract that more than others largely based from things that has NOTHING to do with their music. In TTD/Sananda's case, the cat wanted to do some other things. Sometimes it won't go down well for many. The production on Angels...I would have to assume that's what homeboy wanted. Why? Maybe he was aiming for a certain sound in his mind and he didn't want to treat the production in the same manner as his previous joints. He may have shot for a certain "feel" or "vibe" and what he saw in his mind may or may not have matched the end result of the sound. Not making excuses for the cat, just trying to show different scenarios that may have gone down. I gotta give the cat the benifit of the doubt though cuz I think he has earned that.


Yeah I always thought that the "vibe" he was going for was like what some Beatles/Stones/60's soul records sounded like. At one point, Sananda wrote in one of his newsletters that the inspiration for the "sound" of his "Post Millenium Rock" were from a two album set that he had of Jimi Hendrix & Otis Redding Live at Monterey... At another point he also wrote that another influence for his current sound were the Rolling Stones albums that were produced by Jimmy Miller. Basically, I think he was going for a more stripped down, soulful sound that sounds more "live" and has less of that "perfect" and "glossy" sound that modern recordings have. I understand why some people don't get it. My opinion is that some of these people who don't get it are simply not used to hearing and enjoying that old-school sound. I personally feel like I DO get what he is trying to do and why he is trying to do it and I can definitely see the beauty in it. Just my opinion.

I support the cat.....but I just don't like 90% of this stuff.
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Reply #146 posted 09/03/09 11:58pm

japanrocks

didnt he win a grammy at one point?

i kinda liked that album and saw him live and it was sooooo horrible

perhaps that is why he changed his name?

they need to put him on that VH1 show 'Behind The Music'
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Reply #147 posted 09/04/09 4:01pm

Copycat

The fade out at the end of "Anesthesia" from Angels and Vampires Vol 2 is heavenly. The strong hook in the chorus makes it one of the best tracks on the set.
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Reply #148 posted 09/04/09 10:04pm

japanrocks

saw his autographed "According to the Hardline" LP at the Hard Rock cafe Yokohama last night

sadly that is how most Americans will remember him

Wishing Well was a pretty good song

Sign Your Name was nice too
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Reply #149 posted 09/05/09 6:34pm

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This guy has a touch of genius. He hasn't begun yet to reach his peak. Today I ordered the 2-CD release "Angels & Vampires" without previewing any of the songs. I can't decide what his best CD is. Maybe it's "WildCard".



I downloaded all of his Angels and Vampires songs from his Web site back in 2005 when he started creating a plethora of new songs. I love his chapter theming for volume 1 and 2 -- Jaguar and the Jungle Sound, Monkey and the Mermaid, Nymphetamines, Return of the Missing Lincolns, Thunderchicken, The Rise of the Hetro-Sapiens, The Ballad of Lonesome Rhodes, etc. ...

Great songs -- Bella Facina, South Side Run, O Divina, More Than You Do, Losing Becomes To Easy, Psychotherapy ...
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