WTF?? Is he gay? Is he vegan? Is he biracial??? WHO THE FUCK CARES The man has a luscious voice & he's done brilliant work beyond his debut. Maybe if you cared less about his personal shit & more about the music you'd know it

I've always liked "Holding Onto You", but he has many that outshine it. My only regret about him is that I've never seen him live

The Vibrator album, to me, is very good. And I've personally always dug "Holding On To You". I was one of the few cats that NEVER saw TTD as a Prince clone. Even when he came with Hardline, I always thought the dude was his own man. Sure, the cat was influenced by P just like he was by James Brown. And many other artists. But to me, I always thought TTD was more connected to 60's soul/r&b than ANYTHING else. And he had no shame in his game on flaunting it. I always saw him as the "real deal" and I respected him for it. When he hit with his debut, it blew up. BUT he caught flack back then for bitting off of P. I didn't see it that way.. I saw a cat that obviously dug Bobby Womack & Wilson Picket and he just modernized it. I would LOVE to hear him cover "I'm In Love" because he certainly UNDERSTANDS that sound. But at the time of his debut, especially after he started to hit big with the album, then came the P flack. P doesn't own the keys to shit. So much of what Prince has done has come from so many other people. The thing is is that P colored his bites from others with so much weirdness and shit that for many, it truly camouflaged what he was actually doing. Which to his credit, it worked. But TTD, who bit waaaay less off of P than P did from anybody else (take your pick) then TTD didn't get the "pass" that P did. Same as with Kravitz. I NEVER heard anything that Lenny did that sounded like P. Again, P does NOT own the keys to a black male playing rock guitar or having a rock element in his sound or a black male who sounds soulful and it just so happens that it has live drums on the song. But to many, P has monopolized that in people's skulls to the point that any other brutha who seems "different" from the rest, THEN he's automatically trying to be Prince. I think TTD has so many other things going for him that certainly puts him far beyond a P clone. His phrasing and lyrical sense, not to mention the cat's vocal tone sounds NOTHING like Prince. And I always thought that his lyrics to Holding On To You is paying homage to a time gone by. Again, 60's soul. To me, it's clear that he's tipping his hat to cats from that period that he loves. Again, you can hear it not just in these lyrics but in his vocal phrasing. Even the chord progression is straight 60's soul love ballad mode. I think the song is killin'. Yeah, I thought TTD got caught up in his own hype after his first album and tried to release his version of ATWIAD as his sophmore album. He pulled the trigger too quick. But he was like "Fuck it...I'm not going to wait untill I release 6 albums and shit. I'm doing this waaay out shit now!" But he got it together eventually, I think. And at least he kept releasing material and not taking damn near a decade for a new album. I just like the cat because he stays true to who he is. If I dig it all or not is besides the point.
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blackguitaristz said:

How so? I liked some of Curtis' songs with The Impressions and his 70's stuff like Superfly and Freddie's Dead, but I never was a super fan.

blackguitaristz said:

Very well said.

The Vibrator album, to me, is very good. And I've personally always dug "Holding On To You". I was one of the few cats that NEVER saw TTD as a Prince clone. Even when he came with Hardline, I always thought the dude was his own man. Sure, the cat was influenced by P just like he was by James Brown. And many other artists. But to me, I always thought TTD was more connected to 60's soul/r&b than ANYTHING else. And he had no shame in his game on flaunting it. I always saw him as the "real deal" and I respected him for it. When he hit with his debut, it blew up. BUT he caught flack back then for bitting off of P. I didn't see it that way.. I saw a cat that obviously dug Bobby Womack & Wilson Picket and he just modernized it. I would LOVE to hear him cover "I'm In Love" because he certainly UNDERSTANDS that sound. But at the time of his debut, especially after he started to hit big with the album, then came the P flack. P doesn't own the keys to shit. So much of what Prince has done has come from so many other people. The thing is is that P colored his bites from others with so much weirdness and shit that for many, it truly camouflaged what he was actually doing. Which to his credit, it worked. But TTD, who bit waaaay less off of P than P did from anybody else (take your pick) then TTD didn't get the "pass" that P did. Same as with Kravitz. I NEVER heard anything that Lenny did that sounded like P. Again, P does NOT own the keys to a black male playing rock guitar or having a rock element in his sound or a black male who sounds soulful and it just so happens that it has live drums on the song. But to many, P has monopolized that in people's skulls to the point that any other brutha who seems "different" from the rest, THEN he's automatically trying to be Prince. I think TTD has so many other things going for him that certainly puts him far beyond a P clone. His phrasing and lyrical sense, not to mention the cat's vocal tone sounds NOTHING like Prince. And I always thought that his lyrics to Holding On To You is paying homage to a time gone by. Again, 60's soul. To me, it's clear that he's tipping his hat to cats from that period that he loves. Again, you can hear it not just in these lyrics but in his vocal phrasing. Even the chord progression is straight 60's soul love ballad mode. I think the song is killin'. Yeah, I thought TTD got caught up in his own hype after his first album and tried to release his version of ATWIAD as his sophmore album. He pulled the trigger too quick. But he was like "Fuck it...I'm not going to wait untill I release 6 albums and shit. I'm doing this waaay out shit now!" But he got it together eventually, I think. And at least he kept releasing material and not taking damn near a decade for a new album. I just like the cat because he stays true to who he is. If I dig it all or not is besides the point.
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My favorite albums;
1. Wildcard
2. Symphony or Damn
3. . . .Neither Fish nor Flesh
4. Vibrator
5. Introducing the Hardline . . .

Yeah, I said there were better albums than his debut . . .

The Vibrator album, to me, is very good. And I've personally always dug "Holding On To You". I was one of the few cats that NEVER saw TTD as a Prince clone. Even when he came with Hardline, I always thought the dude was his own man. Sure, the cat was influenced by P just like he was by James Brown. And many other artists. But to me, I always thought TTD was more connected to 60's soul/r&b than ANYTHING else. And he had no shame in his game on flaunting it. I always saw him as the "real deal" and I respected him for it. When he hit with his debut, it blew up. BUT he caught flack back then for bitting off of P. I didn't see it that way.. I saw a cat that obviously dug Bobby Womack & Wilson Picket and he just modernized it. I would LOVE to hear him cover "I'm In Love" because he certainly UNDERSTANDS that sound. But at the time of his debut, especially after he started to hit big with the album, then came the P flack. P doesn't own the keys to shit. So much of what Prince has done has come from so many other people. The thing is is that P colored his bites from others with so much weirdness and shit that for many, it truly camouflaged what he was actually doing. Which to his credit, it worked. But TTD, who bit waaaay less off of P than P did from anybody else (take your pick) then TTD didn't get the "pass" that P did. Same as with Kravitz. I NEVER heard anything that Lenny did that sounded like P. Again, P does NOT own the keys to a black male playing rock guitar or having a rock element in his sound or a black male who sounds soulful and it just so happens that it has live drums on the song. But to many, P has monopolized that in people's skulls to the point that any other brutha who seems "different" from the rest, THEN he's automatically trying to be Prince. I think TTD has so many other things going for him that certainly puts him far beyond a P clone. His phrasing and lyrical sense, not to mention the cat's vocal tone sounds NOTHING like Prince. And I always thought that his lyrics to Holding On To You is paying homage to a time gone by. Again, 60's soul. To me, it's clear that he's tipping his hat to cats from that period that he loves. Again, you can hear it not just in these lyrics but in his vocal phrasing. Even the chord progression is straight 60's soul love ballad mode. I think the song is killin'. Yeah, I thought TTD got caught up in his own hype after his first album and tried to release his version of ATWIAD as his sophmore album. He pulled the trigger too quick. But he was like "Fuck it...I'm not going to wait untill I release 6 albums and shit. I'm doing this waaay out shit now!" But he got it together eventually, I think. And at least he kept releasing material and not taking damn near a decade for a new album. I just like the cat because he stays true to who he is. If I dig it all or not is besides the point.
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SUPRMAN said:

These are my favourite albums by him too, but not in that order.

Mine would be:

1. Vibrator
2. Wildcard
3. Symphony or Damn (but this one and Wildcard are almost equally good IMO
4. Neither Fish nor Flesh
5. Introducing the Hardline . . .

This guy has a touch of genius. He hasn't begun yet to reach his peak. Today I ordered the 2-CD release "Angels & Vampires" without previewing any of the songs. I can't decide what his best CD is. Maybe it's "WildCard".

noimageatall said:

It just reminds me of Curtis's vibe on this track. The melody he's singing, the aura to me, reminds me of Mayfield.

blackguitaristz said:

I wish I said that.

blackguitaristz said:

blackguitaristz said:

Then Sananda is in good company!

CalhounSq said:

Can you give me a few examples?
I love 'Testify,' 'Some Birds Blue,' 'Let Her Down Easy,' 'Sign Your Name,' 'Delicate,' 'What Shall I Do,' 'I'm Your Daddy,' 'It's Just My Pain, 'She Kissed Me,' 'I Have Faith In These Desolate Times,' It Feels Good To Love Someone Like You,' 'I Don't Want to Bring Your Gods Down,' 'Seasons,' 'Designated Fool' and 'Suga Free.'

But none of them are 'Holding Onto You.'
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like Dave and a few others said, his lyrics can be downright awful, and he comes across as trying to sound more important and spiritual than he needs to--almost theatrically desperate at times.

one of the most underrated artists of all time - period.

Swa

one of the most underrated artists of all time - period.

Swa

Imago said:

Oh I think "theatrically desperate to sound more important and spiritual than he needs to" is a good way of putting it...!

Having said that, give me TTD/ SM any day over any number of other current artists.

I'm not a fan, but I can tell he has a definite quality, if only he let it out natutrally instead of trying to force it.

The Vibrator album, to me, is very good. And I've personally always dug "Holding On To You". I was one of the few cats that NEVER saw TTD as a Prince clone. Even when he came with Hardline, I always thought the dude was his own man. Sure, the cat was influenced by P just like he was by James Brown. And many other artists. But to me, I always thought TTD was more connected to 60's soul/r&b than ANYTHING else. And he had no shame in his game on flaunting it. I always saw him as the "real deal" and I respected him for it. When he hit with his debut, it blew up. BUT he caught flack back then for bitting off of P. I didn't see it that way.. I saw a cat that obviously dug Bobby Womack & Wilson Picket and he just modernized it. I would LOVE to hear him cover "I'm In Love" because he certainly UNDERSTANDS that sound. But at the time of his debut, especially after he started to hit big with the album, then came the P flack. P doesn't own the keys to shit. So much of what Prince has done has come from so many other people. The thing is is that P colored his bites from others with so much weirdness and shit that for many, it truly camouflaged what he was actually doing. Which to his credit, it worked. But TTD, who bit waaaay less off of P than P did from anybody else (take your pick) then TTD didn't get the "pass" that P did. Same as with Kravitz. I NEVER heard anything that Lenny did that sounded like P. Again, P does NOT own the keys to a black male playing rock guitar or having a rock element in his sound or a black male who sounds soulful and it just so happens that it has live drums on the song. But to many, P has monopolized that in people's skulls to the point that any other brutha who seems "different" from the rest, THEN he's automatically trying to be Prince. I think TTD has so many other things going for him that certainly puts him far beyond a P clone. His phrasing and lyrical sense, not to mention the cat's vocal tone sounds NOTHING like Prince. And I always thought that his lyrics to Holding On To You is paying homage to a time gone by. Again, 60's soul. To me, it's clear that he's tipping his hat to cats from that period that he loves. Again, you can hear it not just in these lyrics but in his vocal phrasing. Even the chord progression is straight 60's soul love ballad mode. I think the song is killin'. Yeah, I thought TTD got caught up in his own hype after his first album and tried to release his version of ATWIAD as his sophmore album. He pulled the trigger too quick. But he was like "Fuck it...I'm not going to wait untill I release 6 albums and shit. I'm doing this waaay out shit now!" But he got it together eventually, I think. And at least he kept releasing material and not taking damn near a decade for a new album. I just like the cat because he stays true to who he is. If I dig it all or not is besides the point.
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I ordered it last year.

xlr8r said:

And did Terrance say "point fucking blank" afterwards and shit? Or is that you saying that? Cuz damn, I don't recall Terrance saying no shit like "point fucking blank". But if that's you adlibing then I can dig it.

I haven't heard him really since 'The Hardline...'

Jeffiner said:

You're in for a treat!

yeah, I really don't care for his material as Sananda Maitreya. in fact, I really dislike it. it's a friggin' mess.