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Reply #30 posted 08/18/09 1:23am

Timmy84

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The drums are live on that sucka too. Only found out reading Bruce Swediens posts on gearslutz the other day, i've not read the credits for years, i was amazed.

The whole song is amazing, i love everything about it, it's one of those songs i've never skipped, never got bored of, i just can't. MJ's lead vocal is one take, the strings, the little flourishes, the backing vox, so much to listen to and find new things in it (even after a zillion listens!).

It's never stopped getting played in bars and clubs since it came out, so easy to hear why. it's pure ear candy. Michaels zenith really as an artist, after the Motown25 performance it was the start of the decline (starting with the Victory tour), I don't think it ever came together again for him as perfectly as it did with Billie Jean again.

But this here song will be around as long as humans are on the planet.


Yeah "Billie Jean" music-wise was his magnum opus.
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Reply #31 posted 08/18/09 1:29am

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Reply #32 posted 08/18/09 2:07am

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...
[Edited 8/18/09 2:08am]
"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #33 posted 08/18/09 2:08am

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BobGeorge909 said:

Harlepolis said:

I said it before and I'll say it again...

Louis Johnson was literally WALKING that damn bassline headbang



I like the bassline..,,but it ant incredible or nuffin...it's[edit]NOT[edit] what makes the song...but i've come up with better my self.


edit is as shown above.
[Edited 8/17/09 18:58pm]


Billie Jean without the bassline is like the Mona Lisa without the smile.

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Reply #34 posted 08/18/09 2:09am

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I wonder what the other 90 mixes sound like lol
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Reply #35 posted 08/18/09 3:22am

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I reliazed, not to long ago, that the thing I hate most about MJ is the way he pronounces words....over pronounce, slur...all that shit....3/4 of the time I don't know what he's saying.....his singing is alright to me...it would be GREAT if he could pronounce words intelligibly


That's one of the things I love most about him, his unique pronunciations.

What's this got to do with an instrumental anyway?
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Reply #36 posted 08/18/09 3:23am

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The drums are live on that sucka too. Only found out reading Bruce Swediens posts on gearslutz the other day, i've not read the credits for years, i was amazed.

The whole song is amazing, i love everything about it, it's one of those songs i've never skipped, never got bored of, i just can't. MJ's lead vocal is one take, the strings, the little flourishes, the backing vox, so much to listen to and find new things in it (even after a zillion listens!).

It's never stopped getting played in bars and clubs since it came out, so easy to hear why. it's pure ear candy. Michaels zenith really as an artist, after the Motown25 performance it was the start of the decline (starting with the Victory tour), I don't think it ever came together again for him as perfectly as it did with Billie Jean again.

But this here song will be around as long as humans are on the planet.


I would say Man in the Mirror came pretty close.
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Reply #37 posted 08/18/09 5:35am

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This is why, "Off The Wall", is my favorite MJ, CD. In my opinion, it is far superior that "Thriller" and has aged better. Allot of people think that because an albums sells allot and stays at No. 1, that it's a great album; I don't believe this. In fact, I think in some ways, it's your worse album. The better CD, is the one that does not sell that well, but has songs that people can play 20 plus years later....this is what, "Off The Wall", is. As much as I like "Thriller", I don't play it as much as I play "Off The Wall". When I do, I find myself skipping tracks. I play "Off The Wall", right through. Maybe it is an age thing, but, "Thriller", has not aged well.
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Reply #38 posted 08/18/09 5:53am

MOL

purplesweat said:

Marrk said:

The drums are live on that sucka too. Only found out reading Bruce Swediens posts on gearslutz the other day, i've not read the credits for years, i was amazed.

The whole song is amazing, i love everything about it, it's one of those songs i've never skipped, never got bored of, i just can't. MJ's lead vocal is one take, the strings, the little flourishes, the backing vox, so much to listen to and find new things in it (even after a zillion listens!).

It's never stopped getting played in bars and clubs since it came out, so easy to hear why. it's pure ear candy. Michaels zenith really as an artist, after the Motown25 performance it was the start of the decline (starting with the Victory tour), I don't think it ever came together again for him as perfectly as it did with Billie Jean again.

But this here song will be around as long as humans are on the planet.


I would say Man in the Mirror came pretty close.


What about Stranger in Moscow? I looooove that song! It's a great track to hear, in the middle of the night, when there is no noise. Beatiful and VERY UNDERRATED song!
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Reply #39 posted 08/18/09 6:00am

LightOfArt

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purplesweat said:



I would say Man in the Mirror came pretty close.


What about Stranger in Moscow? I looooove that song! It's a great track to hear, in the middle of the night, when there is no noise. Beatiful and VERY UNDERRATED song!
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it was released in the 90s. Everything Michael did in the 90s sucked. everybody knows that no no no!






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Reply #40 posted 08/18/09 9:43am

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when people say mj didnt write his own music i say HE WROTE BILLIE JEAN

also i can't get over quincy not wanting this on thriller. best song ever, it's aged the best out of all the tracks on there.
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Reply #41 posted 08/18/09 9:44am

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Marrk said:

I don't think it ever came together again for him as perfectly as it did with Billie Jean again.

But this here song will be around as long as humans are on the planet.



i agree with this

does anyone else feel like wannabe startin something is underrated? it's one of my favorite tracks, a perfect transition between thriller and otw. i wish he had more tracks like that
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Reply #42 posted 08/18/09 9:46am

Timmy84

"Stranger in Moscow" came close to me.
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Reply #43 posted 08/18/09 9:52am

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shorttrini said:

This is why, "Off The Wall", is my favorite MJ, CD. In my opinion, it is far superior that "Thriller" and has aged better.


yeah i agree for the most part it's aged better.
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Reply #44 posted 08/18/09 9:58am

Timmy84

dearmother said:

Marrk said:

I don't think it ever came together again for him as perfectly as it did with Billie Jean again.

But this here song will be around as long as humans are on the planet.



i agree with this

does anyone else feel like wannabe startin something is underrated? it's one of my favorite tracks, a perfect transition between thriller and otw. i wish he had more tracks like that
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"Wanna Be..." is up there, lol. Even the "you're a vegetable" lines make sense ("they eat off of you"). lol
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Reply #45 posted 08/18/09 9:59am

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yup i love it, its a crazy song with the chanting and stuff too
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Reply #46 posted 08/18/09 4:00pm

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I reliazed, not to long ago, that the thing I hate most about MJ is the way he pronounces words....over pronounce, slur...all that shit....3/4 of the time I don't know what he's saying.....his singing is alright to me...it would be GREAT if he could pronounce words intelligibly

i actually LOVE THE WAY HE SINGS and speaks. Especially when his country accent comes out and he is loose with his words love
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Reply #47 posted 08/18/09 5:50pm

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does anyone else feel like wannabe startin something is underrated? it's one of my favorite tracks, a perfect transition between thriller and otw. i wish he had more tracks like that


extremely underrated. It's a killer opener and just perfect for Thriller.

Nice tid-bit - it was first written around the time of OFF THE WALL.

Swa
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Reply #48 posted 08/18/09 5:51pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

dearmother said:


does anyone else feel like wannabe startin something is underrated? it's one of my favorite tracks, a perfect transition between thriller and otw. i wish he had more tracks like that


extremely underrated. It's a killer opener and just perfect for Thriller.

Nice tid-bit - it was first written around the time of OFF THE WALL.

Swa


Yeah, 1979.
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Reply #49 posted 08/18/09 6:25pm

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Swa said:

dearmother said:


does anyone else feel like wannabe startin something is underrated? it's one of my favorite tracks, a perfect transition between thriller and otw. i wish he had more tracks like that


extremely underrated. It's a killer opener and just perfect for Thriller.

Nice tid-bit - it was first written around the time of OFF THE WALL.

Swa


As a matter of fact, not only was it written for it, he had also recorded a demo for it. It was taken off, for "Don't Stop".
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Reply #50 posted 08/19/09 3:38am

purplesweat

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purplesweat said:



I would say Man in the Mirror came pretty close.


What about Stranger in Moscow? I looooove that song! It's a great track to hear, in the middle of the night, when there is no noise. Beatiful and VERY UNDERRATED song!


Yup, that too.

This is why, "Off The Wall", is my favorite MJ, CD. In my opinion, it is far superior that "Thriller" and has aged better. Allot of people think that because an albums sells allot and stays at No. 1, that it's a great album; I don't believe this. In fact, I think in some ways, it's your worse album. The better CD, is the one that does not sell that well, but has songs that people can play 20 plus years later....this is what, "Off The Wall", is. As much as I like "Thriller", I don't play it as much as I play "Off The Wall". When I do, I find myself skipping tracks. I play "Off The Wall", right through. Maybe it is an age thing, but, "Thriller", has not aged well.


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Reply #51 posted 08/19/09 7:39am

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purplesweat said:[quote]

MOL said:



Yup, that too.

This is why, "Off The Wall", is my favorite MJ, CD. In my opinion, it is far superior that "Thriller" and has aged better. Allot of people think that because an albums sells allot and stays at No. 1, that it's a great album; I don't believe this. In fact, I think in some ways, it's your worse album. The better CD, is the one that does not sell that well, but has songs that people can play 20 plus years later....this is what, "Off The Wall", is. As much as I like "Thriller", I don't play it as much as I play "Off The Wall". When I do, I find myself skipping tracks. I play "Off The Wall", right through. Maybe it is an age thing, but, "Thriller", has not aged well.


whofarted


I take it, you don't agree? That's cool.
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Reply #52 posted 08/19/09 12:10pm

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if mj never achieved super stardom with thriller i wonder how different his music would be
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Reply #53 posted 08/19/09 12:31pm

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dearmother said:

if mj never achieved super stardom with thriller i wonder how different his music would be


I think his music would sound the same. In fact, I think it would have sounded better. Why? I think the success of "Thriller", hindered him in a way, from being the artist that he was when he recorded, "Off The Wall". There is a big difference in sound and his demeanor, between both records. In "Off The Wall", you here an artist that is having the time of his life. During the recording of "Thriller and everything else afterward, you could almost hear the pressure that was placed on him by his peers and by himself to be better than successful.
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Reply #54 posted 08/19/09 12:37pm

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if mj never achieved super stardom with thriller i wonder how different his music would be


I wonder if it had flopped, would he still be with us? neutral
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Reply #55 posted 08/19/09 12:56pm

Timmy84

Marrk said:

dearmother said:

if mj never achieved super stardom with thriller i wonder how different his music would be


I wonder if it had flopped, would he still be with us? neutral


"Thriller: The Blessing and Curse of Michael Jackson"

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Reply #56 posted 08/19/09 1:14pm

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Timmy84 said:

Marrk said:



I wonder if it had flopped, would he still be with us? neutral


"Thriller: The Blessing and Curse of Michael Jackson"

neutral



Actually the moment he did the moonwalk on the Motown thang was the blessing and curse.

That performance soar his record sales

Things change big time afterwards
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Reply #57 posted 08/19/09 1:16pm

tangerine7

to me it was like the 'innocences from the 70's and below was still there where ppl would really be your friend,but then in the 80's that whole corprate thing was creepin up behind.
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Reply #58 posted 08/19/09 1:30pm

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Timmy84 said:

Marrk said:



I wonder if it had flopped, would he still be with us? neutral


"Thriller: The Blessing and Curse of Michael Jackson"

neutral


Sooooo true. It was everything he hoped for and became the thing to haunt him forever.

Swa
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Reply #59 posted 08/19/09 2:32pm

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funkpill said:

Timmy84 said:



"Thriller: The Blessing and Curse of Michael Jackson"

neutral



Actually the moment he did the moonwalk on the Motown thang was the blessing and curse.

That performance soar his record sales

Things change big time afterwards
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yep, the album was already at #1 and sold 5mil but after that performance.....
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