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Reply #30 posted 08/21/09 5:03am

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I'm happy to see this song getting some attention here lol It's the best song on her 'Winner In You' album,imo.

thumbs up! I love this song!


Me too wink This song and "Finally We're Back Together Again" are the only songs on the album that sound genuinely soulful,reminiscent of her Gamble and Huff material from the late 70s/early 80s.The other songs sound more "pop",a direct result of the massive pop hit that she had a year earlier ("New Attitude").It's a good album overall.Not her best,but still very good.
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Reply #31 posted 08/21/09 7:08am

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I take it you had tickets to the Inaugural Ball and witnessed this behavior first hand. Diana Ross's antics are LEGENDARY, but you are the first person I have ever heard attack her personally. You don't like her music and that is fine, but unless you are some insider that has been personally wronged by Patti Labelle, your opinions are just that. As far as your mother, I am sure you would be quick to whoop someones ass had they called her a bitch.


Let me asked Totaldiva, do you yourself know Ms. LaBelle personally? You defend her as though you do. Whether we want to admit it or not, we all have that "inner bitch inside of us. Your screen name alone, conjures up an imagine of a "not so nice person", but I am sure that you are the total opposite of your screen name. I personally, don't care for her vocal acrobatics...they are just not need on every song. This is one of the reasons why I prefer, Dolly's version of "I will always love you", over Whitney's, (If you are breaking up with me, there is no need to scream the sentiment off the top of your lungs). We don't know Patti personally but, all of the stories about her catching a attitude, when things don't go her way, cannot be wrong.


I have just as much personal info on Ms. Holt as you do. It is fine not to be a fan of her music, but no need to disrespect someone's mother and grandmother by calling her a bitch. Especially if she has not personally offended you. You are totally disrespectful, and as I said before, you wouldn't like someone to call your mother a bitch.
Keep your opinions about the music, not calling a woman a female dog. Classless.
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Reply #32 posted 08/21/09 7:46am

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Let me asked Totaldiva, do you yourself know Ms. LaBelle personally? You defend her as though you do. Whether we want to admit it or not, we all have that "inner bitch inside of us. Your screen name alone, conjures up an imagine of a "not so nice person", but I am sure that you are the total opposite of your screen name. I personally, don't care for her vocal acrobatics...they are just not need on every song. This is one of the reasons why I prefer, Dolly's version of "I will always love you", over Whitney's, (If you are breaking up with me, there is no need to scream the sentiment off the top of your lungs). We don't know Patti personally but, all of the stories about her catching a attitude, when things don't go her way, cannot be wrong.


I have just as much personal info on Ms. Holt as you do. It is fine not to be a fan of her music, but no need to disrespect someone's mother and grandmother by calling her a bitch. Especially if she has not personally offended you. You are totally disrespectful, and as I said before, you wouldn't like someone to call your mother a bitch.
Keep your opinions about the music, not calling a woman a female dog. Classless.


I never called her that. What I said was, we all have that quality in us, to act in such a manner and in certain situations it is not a bad thing. What is bad is when you start taking your power as a superstar for granted, as many often do. You then start walking that very "fine" line of "Diva" and "female dog". When that line gets blurry, people can interpret it as being a bitch.
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Reply #33 posted 08/21/09 9:29am

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One of my favorite Patti LaBelle cuts, BAD-ASS:



CD http://www.imeem.com/arti...your-love/ music
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Reply #34 posted 08/21/09 12:33pm

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I have just as much personal info on Ms. Holt as you do. It is fine not to be a fan of her music, but no need to disrespect someone's mother and grandmother by calling her a bitch. Especially if she has not personally offended you. You are totally disrespectful, and as I said before, you wouldn't like someone to call your mother a bitch.
Keep your opinions about the music, not calling a woman a female dog. Classless.


I never called her that. What I said was, we all have that quality in us, to act in such a manner and in certain situations it is not a bad thing. What is bad is when you start taking your power as a superstar for granted, as many often do. You then start walking that very "fine" line of "Diva" and "female dog". When that line gets blurry, people can interpret it as being a bitch.

Then you must refer to the majority of entertainers as bitches. If being strong in your spot, and demanding what you worked hard for makes you a bitch, I am TOP BITCH (and I can't sing) I, personally prefer to be called Total Diva.
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Reply #35 posted 08/21/09 12:43pm

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From her 1985 concert, "Look to the Rainbow".
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Reply #36 posted 08/21/09 1:17pm

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I never called her that. What I said was, we all have that quality in us, to act in such a manner and in certain situations it is not a bad thing. What is bad is when you start taking your power as a superstar for granted, as many often do. You then start walking that very "fine" line of "Diva" and "female dog". When that line gets blurry, people can interpret it as being a bitch.

Then you must refer to the majority of entertainers as bitches. If being strong in your spot, and demanding what you worked hard for makes you a bitch, I am TOP BITCH (and I can't sing) I, personally prefer to be called Total Diva.
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I guess to terms can be used interchangeably...Not all entertainers act in such a manner....Gladys, Donna Summer, they don't act in such a manner and they have a way of singing a song, without over singing it. Sometimes less is more, and I don't think that Patti gets this concept.
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Reply #37 posted 08/21/09 1:35pm

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One of the rare times Patti sings with her lower register. smile
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Reply #38 posted 08/21/09 4:04pm

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Then you must refer to the majority of entertainers as bitches. If being strong in your spot, and demanding what you worked hard for makes you a bitch, I am TOP BITCH (and I can't sing) I, personally prefer to be called Total Diva.
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I guess to terms can be used interchangeably...Not all entertainers act in such a manner....Gladys, Donna Summer, they don't act in such a manner and they have a way of singing a song, without over singing it. Sometimes less is more, and I don't think that Patti gets this concept.

Are you a music insider? Who are you? You don't know anymore personally about the ladies you've mentioned than you do Patti Labelle. Again, you don't like her music or voice- FINE. Do not insult an older woman that you have NEVER MET IN YOUR LIFE a bitch. Having an opinion about music is one thing, you are totally disrespectful. It is uncalled for, It doesn't validate your point. It makes you appear as a wanna be insider that has no merit. Do yourself a favor, stick to the music.
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Reply #39 posted 08/21/09 4:24pm

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hey Timmy,what's your opinion of Patti's 'Winner In You' album?
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Reply #40 posted 08/21/09 4:26pm

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hey Timmy,what's your opinion of Patti's 'Winner In You' album?


It's decent, lol. Compared to her 1977-1985 material, it's not as great as albums like Released (which Patti co-wrote and co-produce the entire album with Allen Toussaint and James "Budd" Ellison) and It's Alright with Me and the first two solo albums and I'm in Love Again (her best album).

But it's got some cuts on it like "Winner in You" and "Something's Special Is Gonna Happen Tonight" (I like that one, it has a groove similar to Chaka's "This Is My Night").
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Reply #41 posted 08/21/09 4:37pm

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Another beautiful favorite of mine!! "Love, Need, and Want You". music

Don't know what's up with "Down South Hardcore Wrestling" but it's the song...biggrin

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Reply #42 posted 08/21/09 4:41pm

Timmy84

^^ That's one of the greatest songs of all time, that and this one from the same album:



It's slowed down but it's still sexy as hell. cool Actually the slower pitch makes it more fabulous to me. Them strings... love
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Reply #43 posted 08/21/09 4:56pm

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I agree,'I'm In Love Again' is her best solo album.Interestingly enough,it was recorded in 1979 but remained in the vaults until 1983.Gamble and Huff dusted it off,released it in late 1983,and watched it become of her biggest-selling albums.
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Reply #44 posted 08/21/09 4:58pm

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Timmy84 said:

^^ That's one of the greatest songs of all time, that and this one from the same album:



It's slowed down but it's still sexy as hell. cool Actually the slower pitch makes it more fabulous to me. Them strings... love


Uhmm....That was one of the one's I posted initially...lol


But, yes, one of my favorite songs by Ms. Labelle! thumbs up!
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Reply #45 posted 08/21/09 5:08pm

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totaldiva said:

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I guess to terms can be used interchangeably...Not all entertainers act in such a manner....Gladys, Donna Summer, they don't act in such a manner and they have a way of singing a song, without over singing it. Sometimes less is more, and I don't think that Patti gets this concept.

Are you a music insider? Who are you? You don't know anymore personally about the ladies you've mentioned than you do Patti Labelle. Again, you don't like her music or voice- FINE. Do not insult an older woman that you have NEVER MET IN YOUR LIFE a bitch. Having an opinion about music is one thing, you are totally disrespectful. It is uncalled for, It doesn't validate your point. It makes you appear as a wanna be insider that has no merit. Do yourself a favor, stick to the music.
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Diva, you don't know me or where I come from so, for you to make assumptions like the one's you have made, is not called for. For several years, I was on the business side of the entertainment and I still have several friends that are in the business. This is a part of my life that I choose to keep private. I come to the org, to have a good time and to exchange ideas. Let's just agree to disagree on Patti and keep it moving.
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Reply #46 posted 08/21/09 5:08pm

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SoulAlive said:

I agree,'I'm In Love Again' is her best solo album.Interestingly enough,it was recorded in 1979 but remained in the vaults until 1983.Gamble and Huff dusted it off,released it in late 1983,and watched it become of her biggest-selling albums.


Yeah the majority of the album was between 1979 and 1981. "If Only You Knew" was actually recorded in 1981, well maybe it was recorded in 1979 but I'm not sure, lol. Only "I'll Never, Never Give Up", "Love Bankrupt", "Lover Man" and "When Am I Gonna Find True Love" were recorded in '83. I think "If Only You Knew", "Love, Need & Want You" and "I'm In Love Again" were recorded in '81. "Body Language" does sound like a late 1970s recording.
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Reply #47 posted 08/21/09 5:10pm

Timmy84

dannyd5050 said:

Timmy84 said:

^^ That's one of the greatest songs of all time, that and this one from the same album:



It's slowed down but it's still sexy as hell. cool Actually the slower pitch makes it more fabulous to me. Them strings... love


Uhmm....That was one of the one's I posted initially...lol


But, yes, one of my favorite songs by Ms. Labelle! thumbs up!


Haha, if it did, my apologies. smile But yeah it's boss. cool That intro is one of the best intros I ever heard in music, period. Patti said her producer told her to smile through the recording because her voice brought out something charming when she did smile. She only began "cutting up" at the end.
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Reply #48 posted 08/21/09 5:16pm

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This is one of my favorite joints from the "I'm in Love Again" album:

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Reply #49 posted 08/21/09 5:17pm

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Are you a music insider? Who are you? You don't know anymore personally about the ladies you've mentioned than you do Patti Labelle. Again, you don't like her music or voice- FINE. Do not insult an older woman that you have NEVER MET IN YOUR LIFE a bitch. Having an opinion about music is one thing, you are totally disrespectful. It is uncalled for, It doesn't validate your point. It makes you appear as a wanna be insider that has no merit. Do yourself a favor, stick to the music.
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Diva, you don't know me or where I come from so, for you to make assumptions like the one's you have made, is not called for. For several years, I was on the business side of the entertainment and I still have several friends that are in the business. This is a part of my life that I choose to keep private. I come to the org, to have a good time and to exchange ideas. Let's just agree to disagree on Patti and keep it moving.


I personally don't care to know you, and I also have contacts within the industry. Debate about the music, fine. To call someone a bitch (who hasn't personally offended you) is disrespectful. I've moved on. My mother taught me to respect my elders. I guess I'm a bitch too.
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Reply #50 posted 08/21/09 5:21pm

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One of her most funkiest solo tracks to date! cool
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Reply #51 posted 08/21/09 6:36pm

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One of her most funkiest solo tracks to date! cool


This and "Joy to have your love", are my two favorite tunes, by Patti.
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Reply #52 posted 08/21/09 6:42pm

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Another funk classic from early Patti LaBelle. cool
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Reply #53 posted 08/21/09 8:35pm

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As far as your mother, I am sure you would be quick to whoop someones ass had they called her a bitch.



[b]THANK GOODNESS MY MOM WAS NOT PATRICA HOLT, IF THAT HAD BEEN THE CASE, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HERE TO REPLY TO THIS BLOG, LOL...I WOULD HAVE KILLED MY OWN AFTERBIRTH, LOL
PATTI LABELLE IS STILL A SCREAMING OFF KEY BITCH, WITH MORE DIVATUDE THAH HER WIDE FEET![/b]

Oh yeah Ross is a bitch, so is Tina, so is Anita Baker, so is Chaka, so is Nippy, so is Mikki Howard, so is Aretha, but Chaka, Aretha and MIkki get a pass, cause I like the bitchyness in them, it works, the others, piss on em


That is a new one I have NEVER heard of Patti being bitchy? Maybe she was going through them damn hot flashes, that alone can turn a woman from a lady to a real bitch in 0-5 seconds!!! lol She has diabetes and when the sugar is too high or low that will set them off too...
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Reply #54 posted 08/21/09 8:41pm

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OldTeenager said:

RnBAmbassador said:




[b]THANK GOODNESS MY MOM WAS NOT PATRICA HOLT, IF THAT HAD BEEN THE CASE, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HERE TO REPLY TO THIS BLOG, LOL...I WOULD HAVE KILLED MY OWN AFTERBIRTH, LOL
PATTI LABELLE IS STILL A SCREAMING OFF KEY BITCH, WITH MORE DIVATUDE THAH HER WIDE FEET![/b]

Oh yeah Ross is a bitch, so is Tina, so is Anita Baker, so is Chaka, so is Nippy, so is Mikki Howard, so is Aretha, but Chaka, Aretha and MIkki get a pass, cause I like the bitchyness in them, it works, the others, piss on em


That is a new one I have NEVER heard of Patti being bitchy? Maybe she was going through them damn hot flashes, that alone can turn a woman from a lady to a real bitch in 0-5 seconds!!! lol She has diabetes and when the sugar is too high or low that will set them off too...


Thank you. Patti is apologetic though when she gets angry. She admitted she can "turn into a witch" sometimes. Even her son was shocked when she did have an outburst. I'm sure Patti was PMSing too. Divas all have their moments, lol.
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Reply #55 posted 08/22/09 1:14am

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Timmy84 said:

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I agree,'I'm In Love Again' is her best solo album.Interestingly enough,it was recorded in 1979 but remained in the vaults until 1983.Gamble and Huff dusted it off,released it in late 1983,and watched it become of her biggest-selling albums.


Yeah the majority of the album was between 1979 and 1981. "If Only You Knew" was actually recorded in 1981, well maybe it was recorded in 1979 but I'm not sure, lol. Only "I'll Never, Never Give Up", "Love Bankrupt", "Lover Man" and "When Am I Gonna Find True Love" were recorded in '83. I think "If Only You Knew", "Love, Need & Want You" and "I'm In Love Again" were recorded in '81. "Body Language" does sound like a late 1970s recording.


In the early 80s,things were a mess at Philadelphia International Records,so to save money,Gamble and Huff slowed down the production of new albums.Instead,they just went into the vaults and compiled new albums using "leftover" tracks.Several of the Ojays albums from this period were completed this way,as well as a 1982 Jones Girl album.None of these albums were successful but surprisingly,this trick worked for Patti LaBelle.Her album became a big hit.
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Reply #56 posted 08/22/09 1:22am

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Yeah the majority of the album was between 1979 and 1981. "If Only You Knew" was actually recorded in 1981, well maybe it was recorded in 1979 but I'm not sure, lol. Only "I'll Never, Never Give Up", "Love Bankrupt", "Lover Man" and "When Am I Gonna Find True Love" were recorded in '83. I think "If Only You Knew", "Love, Need & Want You" and "I'm In Love Again" were recorded in '81. "Body Language" does sound like a late 1970s recording.


In the early 80s,things were a mess at Philadelphia International Records,so to save money,Gamble and Huff slowed down the production of new albums.Instead,they just went into the vaults and compiled new albums using "leftover" tracks.Several of the Ojays albums from this period were completed this way,as well as a 1982 Jones Girl album.None of these albums were successful but surprisingly,this trick worked for Patti LaBelle.Her album became a big hit.


Yeah PIR was in dire straits when "I'm In Love Again" came out. And it took a 1979 (or 1981) track to make it big. Amazing.
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Reply #57 posted 08/22/09 4:06am

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I love her voice. I hate her voice.

I'm often impressed by her vocal prowess and her ability to put a song over and imbue it with passion an emotion. Just as often, I can't stand all that ear-splitting wailing and shreiking she's prone to.


I totally agree with you. Her over singing on certain songs, made me not want to listen to her as much. If you wanna talk about a singer that does not get the credit that she deserves, I would have to say, Gladys Knight. Ms. Knight has a way of singing a song in such a way, that leaves the lister wanting more. Patti just does not do that for me, [bold]I don't want to be taken to church all the time[/bold].


lol lol lol Agree!! Though "Love Need And Want You" and "Somebody Loves You" are personal favorites, sometimes she takes those sheiking too far, making her sounds like an old lady falling in the staircase lol lol
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Reply #58 posted 08/23/09 10:39am

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In the early 80s,things were a mess at Philadelphia International Records,so to save money,Gamble and Huff slowed down the production of new albums.Instead,they just went into the vaults and compiled new albums using "leftover" tracks.Several of the Ojays albums from this period were completed this way,as well as a 1982 Jones Girl album.None of these albums were successful but surprisingly,this trick worked for Patti LaBelle.Her album became a big hit.


Yeah PIR was in dire straits when "I'm In Love Again" came out. And it took a 1979 (or 1981) track to make it big. Amazing.



Did you ever buy that recent LaBelle CD? I tried to get excited about their reunion but after I heard a few songs,I wasn't impressed.
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Reply #59 posted 08/23/09 11:19am

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Thanks everyone for the Labelle education. I've only really known her from her 80's crossover success. Some of these older songs are great.

re: using the word bitch. seriously? in today's day and age? put down the ego for a second and reconsider using such a horrible word. we can all come up with more colorful options to describe a woman but bitch just feels beneath this conversation.
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