CalhounSq said:

Imagine my surprise when I saw Joe's ep of Cribs and he was all gangstalicious an' shit. I'd never heard him speak at lenght before and he was straight thuggin'.

What was his crib like? did he pull out his copy of Scarface?

ViintageJunkiie said:

Way better than Joe's version

The thing about Joe is he keeps putting out the same record over and over and giving it new names! How many fuckin' times can you sing about being better than some chick's man?

scriptgirl said:

If I remember correctly, yes.

SCNDLS said:

Well, he is a PK, I believe.

So, just because you are a PK, you are a thug?

scriptgirl said:

It was a joke.

SCNDLS said:

That shit was probably rented (like a lot of them did for the show).
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midiscover said:

How old are you?

daPrettyman said:

Exactly.

AlexdeParis said:

Subjuctive mood, in which the verb "to be" is used in the past tense as "were",regardless of gender, number and subject, to state a hypothetical state

bboy87 said:

It's funny how some singer or groups can fly below or above your music radar. I didn't know much about Joe myself and this brotha been on the scene since 1990.

He is on the You Will Know song that Black Men United performed.

Also, I think popularity is sometimes regional. Joe was all over NYC radio in the late 90, but maybe he wasn't so popular elsewhere.
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My partyjam

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CalhounSq

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For someone who had to backtrack on this artist (didn't know much about Joe myself) it's been your thoughts that have struck a chord. This guy has an amazing voice. One wonders if Joe had gotten support from others (production and/or writing) his obvious talents would have been served better? I don't know....

I've never been a big fan of videos most artist and the video storylines come off as corny, to me. I think if you're singing about sex or want to be seen as a "loverman" , wouldn't it been better to allow the listeners use their own imagination?










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Shango said:

He did his thing.

TD3 said:

you don't remember I Wanna Know or All the Things (Your Man Won't Do) or Don't Wanna Be A Player being EVERYWHERE?

bboy87 said:

Hey, I remember that song! Didn't know Joe sung it though.

I have a list of artist who've been on the scene for a while, I never heard of before. I feal like Rumpleskin. For the most part, I didn't listen to too much radio in the 90's...they were my lost years.





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His voice gets on my nerves

And @ him being a better singer than Robert Kelly.

Lets not get fooled by the back alley chickenheaded music that R.Kelly puts out Ain't no way that husky mumbling is better than R.Kelly's voice. Please.

my jam

Maybe if Joe made a video tape with some young girl, he wouldn't be so irrelevant. I've never been a big fan of his but I do love that "All The Things". I also recently found out he was the remixer on two of Tina Turner's more recent R&B radio hits "Something Beautiful Remains (Joe's Urban Remix)" and "Wildest Dreams (Joe's Urban Mix)". I know a lot of people who purchased that Tina CD and were pissed that the remix of "Beautiful" wasn't there, being that was the version on the radio.

His record label NEEDS to read this thread..There are a couple of different answers that are the result of bad promotion and artist development.Which direction does he want to go?..Someone suggested a collabo with some female artist..he already did that.Song choice and topic choice has been stated..that goes back to him and his label.Some have said no sex appeal..that goes back to artist development, he might have to switch his game up.Alot of talented artist sometimes just dont get over the hump for whatever reason.But just for a thought,what if Joe sang the hook for Kanye or Jay-Z song would people know who he was then?...just a former industry cat asking a hypothetical question

kitbradley said:

Get out of here! No wonder they sounded so sultry.

kitbradley said:

Nah I think he would still be irrelevant The reason why that tape was a big deal is because of R.'s fame. There's a differance btwn being a star with hits and just having good hits. Joe being the latter. I do recall hearing a few of his songs but never knowing who this cat was

because his personality is cold and rigid .... I can;t believe what he's singing at ALL, he looks like he'll stick it in pull it out and rollover, then ask you to
to move over (away from him)

utopia7 said:

I heard his attitude was sorta shitty...
He's not much to look at either!

Countthedays said:

and there it is ! case dismissed

NMuzakNSoul said:

I also wasn't aware that he's disliked so much, and wonder how he is rated compared to some current singers like Ne-Yo or Omarion.
Guess i might not be an expert on vocal quality, but is being "relevant" always the required and prefered standard to be aknowkedged as an artist ? ...
Because i can just dig those songs which i posted for what they are ... enjoyable tracks without too much analysing.

Shango said:

U consider Omarion a singer? For some reason, I don't. He's more irrelevant to me than Joe.

For me, someone like Joe is just a guy who makes records for a living. He and Chico have hooked up with Kedar and have made him a decent amount of money. I only know that because Kedar keeps on pushing these 2. Even Erykah left him alone because he was more about the money.

As for artistic integrity, I don't know if Joe has any. Especially since he has not tried to be creative in his approach for singing. He has done the same song for the last 10 or so years.

All that said, I think he has released a few good songs. For some reason, I really like his new project. More than I have most of his last few cds. This one does seem to have a theme (which is Joe's "Signature" style). To me, he has taken what has made him a "star" and created songs around that.