babybugz said: this album might be glitter part 2
glitter was a good album though. | |
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Timmy84 said: That's a fucking mess. That album will be released in 2010 if they can't think of better tracks. She better do a ballad-heavy album again. sadly, it seems that's what's actually delaying it now, coz most of those preview parties feedbacks complained the material were all so slow. seems like you just can't win with her | |
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PricelessHo said: Timmy84 said: That's a fucking mess. That album will be released in 2010 if they can't think of better tracks. She better do a ballad-heavy album again. sadly, it seems that's what's actually delaying it now, coz most of those preview parties feedbacks complained the material were all so slow. seems like you just can't win with her Guess not. Maybe she should do a dance album with no crunk/hip-hop influences... PROBLEM SOLVED! | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: babybugz said: this album might be glitter part 2
glitter was a good album though. was it really?I never heard it | |
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Timmy84 said: Maybe she should do a dance album with no crunk/hip-hop influences... PROBLEM SOLVED! then she'd be "too ghey" for US radio though i'd kill for a whole campy xenomania produced record . [Edited 8/13/09 19:36pm] | |
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PricelessHo said: Timmy84 said: Maybe she should do a dance album with no crunk/hip-hop influences... PROBLEM SOLVED! then she'd be "too ghey" for US radio though i'd kill for a whole camply xenomenia produced record Mariah should stop worrying about sales and what people think and just do it, it will be a way to get away from what is expecting of her. She already did that with the hip-hop thing, she can change again. | |
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Harlepolis said: SCNDLS said: But YOU ARE the one bringing Janet up into this thread. QUIT IT! Off-topic loony tunes.. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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babybugz said: this album might be glitter part 2
Well, I hope so. Glitter was fantastic <3 | |
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bboy87 said: Harlepolis said: Off-topic loony tunes.. I wonder how the Clark Sisters were thinking when they saw this. Like "this girl got the devil in her! " Fantasia and 'em were performing "Endow Me", I think. [Edited 8/13/09 19:41pm] | |
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PricelessHo said: SCNDLS said: Regardless of still being in the studio, it's not a good look to be cancelling all these live performances which would give her ample publicity, especially since the last time we heard her live, at MJ's memorial, was a lackluster performance. Something's up. thing is, she was just on America's Got Talent about a week ago, and BET the week before,, so she started to actually promote the album (going by Sep 15) but this week they tested 6 tracks at several countries and the feedbacks were consistently lukewarm, so it seems like this is the main reason behind the delay. now with this big ass gap and the single peaking, they better have a good plan as to what to do next I just don't know. It still seems like an awful lot of performances to cancel. She could do older material and one new track. You sayin' they ain't got ONE decent track she can promote at these events. | |
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SCNDLS said: PricelessHo said: thing is, she was just on America's Got Talent about a week ago, and BET the week before,, so she started to actually promote the album (going by Sep 15) but this week they tested 6 tracks at several countries and the feedbacks were consistently lukewarm, so it seems like this is the main reason behind the delay. now with this big ass gap and the single peaking, they better have a good plan as to what to do next I just don't know. It still seems like an awful lot of performances to cancel. She could do older material and one new track. You sayin' they ain't got ONE decent track she can promote at these events. Not according to their "bright ears" according to Priceless. Def Scam is foul. | |
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PricelessHo said: Timmy84 said: That's a fucking mess. That album will be released in 2010 if they can't think of better tracks. She better do a ballad-heavy album again. sadly, it seems that's what's actually delaying it now, coz most of those preview parties feedbacks complained the material were all so slow. seems like you just can't win with her Does that mean we're getting yet MORE JD tracks? !!!!! | |
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Timmy84 said: Mariah should stop worrying about sales and what people think and just do it, it will be a way to get away from what is expecting of her. She already did that with the hip-hop thing, she can change again. thing is, i know for a fact she would, i just don't know what's keeping her from it. she has such a broad taste in music, and has actually mentioned once that she'd love to do something different sometime (amd named Alternative ) for she enjoys all sorts of music. | |
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SCNDLS said: PricelessHo said: thing is, she was just on America's Got Talent about a week ago, and BET the week before,, so she started to actually promote the album (going by Sep 15) but this week they tested 6 tracks at several countries and the feedbacks were consistently lukewarm, so it seems like this is the main reason behind the delay. now with this big ass gap and the single peaking, they better have a good plan as to what to do next I just don't know. It still seems like an awful lot of performances to cancel. She could do older material and one new track. You sayin' they ain't got ONE decent track she can promote at these events. she might be pregnant | |
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Timmy84 said: PricelessHo said: sadly, it seems that's what's actually delaying it now, coz most of those preview parties feedbacks complained the material were all so slow. seems like you just can't win with her Guess not. Maybe she should do a dance album with no crunk/hip-hop influences... PROBLEM SOLVED! Cuz her dance remixes be on PERNT! Homegirl needs to give up the ghost and stop trynna please people that don't know shit about music or crafting a song. | |
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Timmy84 said: PricelessHo said: then she'd be "too ghey" for US radio though i'd kill for a whole camply xenomenia produced record Mariah should stop worrying about sales and what people think and just do it, it will be a way to get away from what is expecting of her. She already did that with the hip-hop thing, she can change again. We right here! | |
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SCNDLS said: You sayin' they ain't got ONE decent track she can promote at these events. that's exactly what i don't get, especially with her going on and on STILL about that Hate U track! i just don't get why they're waiting.. | |
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PricelessHo said: SCNDLS said: You sayin' they ain't got ONE decent track she can promote at these events. that's exactly what i don't get, especially with her going on and on STILL about that Hate U track! i just don't get why they're waiting.. It's all quite perplexing. | |
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SCNDLS said: Timmy84 said: Mariah should stop worrying about sales and what people think and just do it, it will be a way to get away from what is expecting of her. She already did that with the hip-hop thing, she can change again. We right here! And we know Mariah is capable of doing more than what we're hearing. Trying to go for commercial gain is not really worth it when you think about it. | |
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Timmy84 said: SCNDLS said: I just don't know. It still seems like an awful lot of performances to cancel. She could do older material and one new track. You sayin' they ain't got ONE decent track she can promote at these events. Not according to their "bright ears" according to Priceless. Def Scam is foul. Def Jam is a done deal at this point, they have no clue about anything, they are mostly to blame for these things, i can guarantee that they set 99% of their artists up with writers and the beatmakers, its all a fucking racket at this point. I cannot seriously think of Mariah sitting back and saying, "damn i need to work with THE DREAM" the same thing goes for Lionel Richie, i mean if he was sitting at home saying "wow i gotta cut some tracks with Ne-YO and AKON" i mean if he actually was thinking that shit, then thats why the result is his shittiest album ever, and the same goes for Mariah, she just doesnt get it, she has power, she can seriously do what she wants, and yet she'd rather let others do it for her and the result is shitty tracks, i dont care that "touch my body" was a number one, its a fucking horrible song that she should be ashamed of. I mean even if she Breaks the Beatles record, i could never ever put her in the same sentence with them, because of the crappy songs she has done(most of them number ones) and the era she was in "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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wasn't Mariah going back to 90's Mariah with this new album or was that a lie | |
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lastdecember said: Timmy84 said: Not according to their "bright ears" according to Priceless. Def Scam is foul. Def Jam is a done deal at this point, they have no clue about anything, they are mostly to blame for these things, i can guarantee that they set 99% of their artists up with writers and the beatmakers, its all a fucking racket at this point. I cannot seriously think of Mariah sitting back and saying, "damn i need to work with THE DREAM" the same thing goes for Lionel Richie, i mean if he was sitting at home saying "wow i gotta cut some tracks with Ne-YO and AKON" i mean if he actually was thinking that shit, then thats why the result is his shittiest album ever, and the same goes for Mariah, she just doesnt get it, she has power, she can seriously do what she wants, and yet she'd rather let others do it for her and the result is shitty tracks, i dont care that "touch my body" was a number one, its a fucking horrible song that she should be ashamed of. I mean even if she Breaks the Beatles record, i could never ever put her in the same sentence with them, because of the crappy songs she has done(most of them number ones) and the era she was in The saddest thing is Mariah still has potential to do great works, they're still trying to sell her with the tired ass Bryan Michael Cox-like productions. | |
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Alej said: Does that mean we're getting yet MORE JD tracks? !!!!! nop, JD only has one track in this project (titled 100 Percent, originally intended for the soundtrack of Precious, but was said to be included to this record) but after the mess he tried to pull on her lable 2 weeks ago by leaking the song on Hot 97 behind the lable's back in an attempt to force the lable to release it as a single, i can easily see them removing that track off of this project. | |
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PricelessHo said: lastdecember said: the single didnt get the response they wanted
how so? they've got a consistent top 20 hit at their hand which has created a huge buzz and has been hanging in there for a while with hardly any promotion. so yes, i'd say the single has definitely served it's purpose. time for the next step now. Its a bomb, this is what people dont get, if the thing isnt breaking down the door and topping the chart, its a freaking bomb, i know we all dont like to admit it, but there is huge $$ in Mariah, this isnt a new artist with no $$ invested in her having a Top 20 record, this is someone that they are putting millions into and getting lackluster tracks, a number 14 record isnt what it used to be, especially know when "faceless" downloading is a major issue. Its like when MIMI came out, and "Its like that" stalled at 17, stores were already getting call back requests on what they had stocked on the album, had We Belong Together not taken off then that album would have dropped like a stone. The thing with this record is they dont have anything strong to follow up, plus, its 5 years later, the industry is in its worst state ever, people could care less about Mariah or anyone else at this point. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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babybugz said: wasn't Mariah going back to 90's Mariah with this new album or was that a lie
all previewed tracks were said to have a very 90s sound to them. | |
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PricelessHo said: Alej said: Does that mean we're getting yet MORE JD tracks? !!!!! nop, JD only has one track in this project (titled 100 Percent, originally intended for the soundtrack of Precious, but was said to be included to this record) but after the mess he tried to pull on her lable 2 weeks ago by leaking the song on Hot 97 behind the lable's back in an attempt to force the lable to release it as a single, i can easily see them removing that track off of this project. Lord Jermaine is a numb nut. | |
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I like the tracks JD did on the Emancipation but JD fell off as a producer | |
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lastdecember said: Its a bomb, this is what people dont get, if the thing isnt breaking down the door and topping the chart, its a freaking bomb, i know we all dont like to admit it, but there is huge $$ in Mariah, this isnt a new artist with no $$ invested in her having a Top 20 record, this is someone that they are putting millions into and getting lackluster tracks, a number 14 record isnt what it used to be, especially know when "faceless" downloading is a major issue. Its like when MIMI came out, and "Its like that" stalled at 17, stores were already getting call back requests on what they had stocked on the album, had We Belong Together not taken off then that album would have dropped like a stone. The thing with this record is they dont have anything strong to follow up, plus, its 5 years later, the industry is in its worst state ever, people could care less about Mariah or anyone else at this point. if that's how you want to define a bomb, fine, but that doesn't make it a fact. as to the rest, we'll have to wait for the follow up and see. | |
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babybugz said: I like the tracks JD did on the Emancipation but JD fell off as a producer
Jermaine hasn't produced a hit since 2006, lol. | |
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Timmy84 said: lastdecember said: Def Jam is a done deal at this point, they have no clue about anything, they are mostly to blame for these things, i can guarantee that they set 99% of their artists up with writers and the beatmakers, its all a fucking racket at this point. I cannot seriously think of Mariah sitting back and saying, "damn i need to work with THE DREAM" the same thing goes for Lionel Richie, i mean if he was sitting at home saying "wow i gotta cut some tracks with Ne-YO and AKON" i mean if he actually was thinking that shit, then thats why the result is his shittiest album ever, and the same goes for Mariah, she just doesnt get it, she has power, she can seriously do what she wants, and yet she'd rather let others do it for her and the result is shitty tracks, i dont care that "touch my body" was a number one, its a fucking horrible song that she should be ashamed of. I mean even if she Breaks the Beatles record, i could never ever put her in the same sentence with them, because of the crappy songs she has done(most of them number ones) and the era she was in The saddest thing is Mariah still has potential to do great works, they're still trying to sell her with the tired ass Bryan Michael Cox-like productions. But its really a combo of artist and label both are just lost at this point creatively. No one is gonna tell Mariah, grow up, you got the goods to do anything and you are resorting to this? You are becoming a parody of what you were. She is too concerned with not selling, at an age where she should be turning the corner and getting deep with her work "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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