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Reply #30 posted 08/13/09 11:49am

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I mean, would you say his voice is melodic and pleasant to listen to like Marvin, El's or Nat King Cole?



absofuckinlutely!!! love his voice. very sexy. like a cross between teddy pendegrass and eddie levert
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Reply #31 posted 08/13/09 1:16pm

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I like his voice but wouldn't call him a great singer...
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Reply #32 posted 08/13/09 1:17pm

Timmy84

I like his voice but wouldn't call him a great singer...
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Reply #33 posted 08/13/09 1:19pm

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I don't think that's what he was aiming for. His voice was powerful sometimes, I suppose, but the songs/arrangements always seemed to be the focus.


Yeah thats what I think too nod

I don't think he had any aspirations to be a "great singer" as long as he could get the message across - which he did, pretty eloquently.
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Reply #34 posted 08/13/09 1:31pm

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No one can deny the awesomeness of his voice on the chorus of Love Them and Leave Them. Oooh, shivers. love And Teardrops is another good showcase of his vocal talent.

he sounds straight sexy here too.





THIS IS A FUNKY JAM BUT HIS VOCALS ARE STRONG HERE. THE SONG IS A BIT PRINCEISH IMO. MAKES ME LIKE IT ALL THE MORE.

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Reply #35 posted 08/13/09 1:35pm

Timmy84

Like exenn and Harle said, I don't think he cared if he had a great voice or not. He has a good voice for ballads and he said Marvin was one of his influences (alongside James and Sly).
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Reply #36 posted 08/13/09 1:51pm

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I'd say he had a soulful voice! He was pretty good... nod
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Reply #37 posted 08/13/09 1:53pm

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Great singer? No
Effective singer....very yes.
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Reply #38 posted 08/13/09 4:50pm

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Graycap, thank you-effective is the right word
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Reply #39 posted 08/13/09 5:01pm

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CalhounSq said:

I like his voice but wouldn't call him a great singer...


nod exactly. rick james has a nice tone, power and good delivery. he was a good enough singer to get his message across.

exenn said:

...but the songs/arrangements always seemed to be the focus.


good point.
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Reply #40 posted 08/13/09 5:39pm

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Rick was influenced by Eddie Levert. He voice always fit well in his songs.

He wasn't a Johnny Mae oops I mean Johnny Gill type of singer or a Luther but he showcased his voice well in his songs.

He never tried anything vocally that was out of his element.

And considering he felt the heat from Prince at least he didn't try to bust out in a falsetto.

[Edited 8/13/09 9:29am]


He did display a nice falsetto on his debut album, on the song 'Dream Maker'. and I think he pulled it off pretty well.
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Reply #41 posted 08/13/09 6:00pm

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and yes...I would say Rick was a great singer:

Fire and Desire
Teardrops
Hollywood
When Love Is Gone
Dream Maker
Island Lady

all of these songs display his vocal range.

But I will agree, that it can be easy to 'ignore' his vocal ability because his arrangements were so 'active', so your ear could be drawn away.
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Reply #42 posted 08/13/09 6:04pm

Timmy84

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and yes...I would say Rick was a great singer:

Fire and Desire
Teardrops
Hollywood
When Love Is Gone
Dream Maker
Island Lady

all of these songs display his vocal range.

But I will agree, that it can be hard to 'ignore' his vocal ability because his arrangements were so 'active', so your ear could be drawn away.


PLUS he was a funkateer. lol So yeah his voice will get overlooked. lol You think he was more inclined to be part of the Bootsy Collins class than the Marvin Gaye/David Ruffin class. lol
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Reply #43 posted 08/13/09 6:09pm

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Timmy84 said:

mrpunkfunk said:

and yes...I would say Rick was a great singer:

Fire and Desire
Teardrops
Hollywood
When Love Is Gone
Dream Maker
Island Lady

all of these songs display his vocal range.

But I will agree, that it can be hard to 'ignore' his vocal ability because his arrangements were so 'active', so your ear could be drawn away.


PLUS he was a funkateer. lol So yeah his voice will get overlooked. lol You think he was more inclined to be part of the Bootsy Collins class than the Marvin Gaye/David Ruffin class. lol


Hell, Rick would've partied with either class. cool
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Reply #44 posted 08/13/09 6:14pm

Timmy84

mrpunkfunk said:

Timmy84 said:



PLUS he was a funkateer. lol So yeah his voice will get overlooked. lol You think he was more inclined to be part of the Bootsy Collins class than the Marvin Gaye/David Ruffin class. lol


Hell, Rick would've partied with either class. cool


Yeah I know, lol lol
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Reply #45 posted 08/13/09 6:17pm

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Funk, ballads, chest-singing, falsetto, fast, slow, with Teena, alone, high, sober, in jail, 70s, 80s, 00s... It doesn't matter.

I love me some RICK! love

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Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #46 posted 08/13/09 6:19pm

Timmy84

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Funk, ballads, chest-singing, falsetto, fast, slow, with Teena, alone, high, sober, in jail, 70s, 80s, 00s... It doesn't matter.

I love me some RICK! love

lol

Even as a Dave Chappelle episode. "I'm Rick James...b***h" lol lol
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Reply #47 posted 08/13/09 6:23pm

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Timmy84 said:

chocolate1 said:

Funk, ballads, chest-singing, falsetto, fast, slow, with Teena, alone, high, sober, in jail, 70s, 80s, 00s... It doesn't matter.

I love me some RICK! love

lol

Even as a Dave Chappelle episode. "I'm Rick James...b***h" lol lol



Like I said- I never really thought about the QUALITY of his voice- I just loved his music. music
The only time I can remember going whofarted is when he and Teena performed right before he died. disbelief

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Reply #48 posted 08/13/09 6:30pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:


lol

Even as a Dave Chappelle episode. "I'm Rick James...b***h" lol lol



Like I said- I never really thought about the QUALITY of his voice- I just loved his music. music
The only time I can remember going whofarted is when he and Teena performed right before he died. disbelief


Well he was doped up on pills or at least looked like he was on painkillers. sad
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Reply #49 posted 08/13/09 6:32pm

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yeah, I'm easily one of the biggest Rick James fans in the world dancing jig... but that BET Awards performance was pretty horrible feeling ill, both he and Teena sounded bad. I was saddened that he had 'smoked' his voice to oblivion. His last few studio albums he sounded ok, and when I saw him live in '02, he sounded great, but that performance in '04 left me shaking my head. disbelief
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Reply #50 posted 08/13/09 6:43pm

Timmy84

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yeah, I'm easily one of the biggest Rick James fans in the world dancing jig... but that BET Awards performance was pretty horrible feeling ill, both he and Teena sounded bad. I was saddened that he had 'smoked' his voice to oblivion. His last few studio albums he sounded ok, and when I saw him live in '02, he sounded great, but that performance in '04 left me shaking my head. disbelief


Well he did have that stroke. sad I think a lot of things were affecting him in the worst ways at the end. He sounded groggy that last year he was alive. It was as if he had aged 30 years or something. It was sad, even sadder when I found out he had died.
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Reply #51 posted 08/13/09 6:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

mrpunkfunk said:

yeah, I'm easily one of the biggest Rick James fans in the world dancing jig... but that BET Awards performance was pretty horrible feeling ill, both he and Teena sounded bad. I was saddened that he had 'smoked' his voice to oblivion. His last few studio albums he sounded ok, and when I saw him live in '02, he sounded great, but that performance in '04 left me shaking my head. disbelief


Well he did have that stroke. sad I think a lot of things were affecting him in the worst ways at the end. He sounded groggy that last year he was alive. It was as if he had aged 30 years or something. It was sad, even sadder when I found out he had died.



It broke my heart. disbelief
I had been into him since I was in jr. high. Everybody else was a Prince or MJ fan in my school... I was into RICK! headbang
I didn't get into Prince until college.

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #52 posted 08/13/09 6:56pm

Timmy84

chocolate1 said:

Timmy84 said:



Well he did have that stroke. sad I think a lot of things were affecting him in the worst ways at the end. He sounded groggy that last year he was alive. It was as if he had aged 30 years or something. It was sad, even sadder when I found out he had died.



It broke my heart. disbelief
I had been into him since I was in jr. high. Everybody else was a Prince or MJ fan in my school... I was into RICK! headbang
I didn't get into Prince until college.


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Reply #53 posted 08/13/09 7:07pm

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Timmy84 said:

chocolate1 said:




It broke my heart. disbelief
I had been into him since I was in jr. high. Everybody else was a Prince or MJ fan in my school... I was into RICK! headbang
I didn't get into Prince until college.


Cool. smile



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Reply #54 posted 08/13/09 7:16pm

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Timmy84 said:

mrpunkfunk said:

yeah, I'm easily one of the biggest Rick James fans in the world dancing jig... but that BET Awards performance was pretty horrible feeling ill, both he and Teena sounded bad. I was saddened that he had 'smoked' his voice to oblivion. His last few studio albums he sounded ok, and when I saw him live in '02, he sounded great, but that performance in '04 left me shaking my head. disbelief


Well he did have that stroke. sad I think a lot of things were affecting him in the worst ways at the end. He sounded groggy that last year he was alive. It was as if he had aged 30 years or something. It was sad, even sadder when I found out he had died.


Yeah, I think that stroke is truly what kept him from a 'comeback', he wasn't able to truly promote 'Urban Rhapsody' (which was a fabulous album), and he did look and sound older. I think he still had a lot more left in him though, but I guess it wasn't 'meant' to be. sad
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Reply #55 posted 08/13/09 7:18pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Well he did have that stroke. sad I think a lot of things were affecting him in the worst ways at the end. He sounded groggy that last year he was alive. It was as if he had aged 30 years or something. It was sad, even sadder when I found out he had died.


Yeah, I think that stroke is truly what kept him from a 'comeback', he wasn't able to truly promote 'Urban Rhapsody' (which was a fabulous album), and he did look and sound older. I think he still had a lot more left in him though, but I guess it wasn't 'meant' to be. sad


I also think because he was using prescription pills that it was probably inevitable he'd accidentally overuse it. He died with pills in his system. People like to focus on the cocaine but he died from prescription pills. sad
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Reply #56 posted 08/13/09 7:19pm

Timmy84

chocolate1 said:

Timmy84 said:



Cool. smile



I have all of the albums on vinyl, except for "Wonderful" on cassette and "Deeper Still" on CD. music


You're definitely devoted and loyal. thumbs up! As a MJ fan, I can imagine how saddened you was to hear how he died. hug
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Reply #57 posted 08/13/09 7:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

mrpunkfunk said:



Yeah, I think that stroke is truly what kept him from a 'comeback', he wasn't able to truly promote 'Urban Rhapsody' (which was a fabulous album), and he did look and sound older. I think he still had a lot more left in him though, but I guess it wasn't 'meant' to be. sad


I also think because he was using prescription pills that it was probably inevitable he'd accidentally overuse it. He died with pills in his system. People like to focus on the cocaine but he died from prescription pills. sad


Thats true, with someone who had a history of addiction, (especially at the level or Rick's, the guy who used to spend $8,000 a week on cocaine) prescription drugs are the next best thing. So I think that his old demons simply got the best of him.
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Reply #58 posted 08/13/09 7:25pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



I also think because he was using prescription pills that it was probably inevitable he'd accidentally overuse it. He died with pills in his system. People like to focus on the cocaine but he died from prescription pills. sad


Thats true, with someone who had a history of addiction, (especially at the level or Rick's, the guy who used to spend $8,000 a week on cocaine) prescription drugs are the next best thing. So I think that his old demons simply got the best of him.


Right. While I don't believe the tabloid story that his girlfriend said of him getting high on cocaine with her, I do believe that he took one too many pills that led to a violent final heart attack. sad
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Reply #59 posted 08/13/09 7:27pm

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Timmy84 said:

mrpunkfunk said:



Thats true, with someone who had a history of addiction, (especially at the level or Rick's, the guy who used to spend $8,000 a week on cocaine) prescription drugs are the next best thing. So I think that his old demons simply got the best of him.


Right. While I don't believe the tabloid story that his girlfriend said of him getting high on cocaine with her, I do believe that he took one too many pills that led to a violent final heart attack. sad



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Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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