Timmy84 said:

Oh,okay,I just did'nt want anyone thinking I was another person trying to dispute that he had these conditions.
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EmeraldSkies said:

Nah, far from it.

Timmy84 said:

Look at his cheeks over here.

And it´s on his neck as well or that´s probably vitiligo.

BTW, the kids have pretty much red cheeks, too, so maybe it´s not what I think it is. I don´t know.


BTW I love these pictures. Mike the family man. He looked so happy.
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dag said:

It's rouge, nothing more.

http://www.huffingtonpost...28307.html

Bury the Never Ending Myth of Jackson as Child Molester


Websites, blogs and chatrooms pulsed with garish cracks about it. Legions of commentators and news reporters snuck it in every chance they got. More than a few of Michael Jackson's fervent admirers and supporters made a dismissive reference to it. Even President Barack Obama in a cautious acknowledgement of Jackson's towering contributions to American music and artistry still made reference to the "tragedy" in Jackson's life which was a subtle nod to it. And New York Congressman Pete King skipped the niceties and flatly said it.The "it" is the never ending myth of Jackson the child molester. It still hangs as a damning indictment that feeds the gossip mills and gives an arsenal of ammunition to Jackson detractors. This is not a small point. In the coming weeks, there will be a push to bestow official commemorative monuments, honors on and a national stamp for Jackson. The taint of scandal could doom these efforts to permanently memorialize Jackson.
The child molester myth doesn't rest on Jackson's trial and clean acquittal on multiple child abuse charges in a Santa Maria courthouse in June 2005. Only the most rabid Jackson loathers still finger point to that to taint Jackson. The myth of Jackson as child abuser rests squarely on the charge by a 13 year old boy a decade before the trial and the multi-million dollar settlement out of court. The settlement, then and now, feeds the suspicion that Jackson must have done something unsavory and probably criminal, or else why settle?
16 years later, though, the facts remain unchanged. The charge that Jackson molested the boy was brought by the boy's father. In interviews the boy repeatedly denied the charges. This changed only after he was administered sodium amytal, an invasive, mind altering drug that medical experts have frowned on and courts have disregarded in witness testimony.
Prosecutors, police departments and investigators in Los Angeles and Santa Barbara spent millions of dollars, convened two grand juries and probed nearly 200 witnesses that included 30 children, who knew Jackson to try to substantiate the charge. Not a single corroborating witness was found. Nonetheless, a motley group of disgruntled Jackson's former housekeepers, attendants and bodyguards still peddled the story to any media outlet willing to shell out the cash that Jackson had engaged in child sexual wrongdoing. Not one of the charges was confirmed. Typical was this exchange between one of Jackson's attorneys and one of the accusing bodyguards under oath:
"So you don't know anything about Mr. Jackson and [the boy], do you?"
"All I know is from the sworn documents that other people have sworn to."
"But other than what someone else may have said, you have no firsthand knowledge about Mr. Jackson and [the boy], do you?"
"That's correct."
"Have you spoken to a child who has ever told you that Mr. Jackson did anything improper with the child?"
"No."
"Where did you get your impressions about Jackson's behavior?"
"Just what I've been hearing in the media and what I've experienced with my own eyes."
"Okay. That's the point. You experienced nothing with your own eyes, did you?"
"That's right, nothing."
When asked at the time about the charges against Jackson, child behavior experts and psychiatrists nearly all agreed that he did not fit the profile of a pedophile. They agreed that the disorder is progressive and there are generally not one but a trail of victims.
The myth of Jackson as child molester never hinged on evidence or testimony to substantiate it, but solely on the settlement. Why then did Jackson agree to it?
No charge stirs more disgust, revulsion, and pricks more emotional hot buttons than the charge of child molestation. The accusation stamps the Scarlet letter of doubt, suspicion, shame and guilt on the accused. The accused can never fully expunge it. There is simply no defense against it. Under the hyper intense media glare and spotlight that Jackson remained under, the allegation no mater how bogus would have been endless fodder for the public gossip mill. This would have wreaked irreparable damage on Jackson's ever shifting musical career and personal life.
A trial in Los Angeles in the racially charged backdrop of the Rodney King beating, the L.A. riots, and pulsating racial tensions in the mid-1990s would have been risky business. A trial in staid, upscale, and majority white, Santa Barbara County would have been even more risky.
Jackson and his attorneys knew that when it came to the charge of child molestation the presumption of innocence, or even actual innocence, is tossed out the window. Though Jackson did nothing wrong, a trial would have left him, his reputation and his career in shambles. The settlement was the only pragmatic, logical and legal way to end the sordid issue.
The settlement under extreme duress must not sully his name and place as an honored American icon. The myth of Jackson as child molester must finally be buried.


Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. His weekly radio show, "The Hutchinson Report" can be heard on weekly in Los Angeles on KTYM Radio 1460 AM and nationally on blogtalkradio.com

ViintageJunkiie said:

Deep as fuck, I believe Billy Jean was a prophecy of his life. Much like Mystery Train was Elvis' prophecy stated early in his career, and to a lesser extent Heartbreak Hotel. I believe artists are in touch with the spirit world and when I see stuff like this, although it makes my skin crawl sometimes, it verifies it.

mozfonky said:

I agree I exp it myself when I compose sing and play.

NMuzakNSoul said:

me too,scary sometimes

StillDirrty said:

i'm not saying she doesnt bleach but the difference in color could very well be from difference in lighting.


if you want to use pictures like that you can could say wesly snipes bleach his skin from these pictures

StillDirrty said:

so he lied big deal. he's human everyone lies. even the beloved prince rogers nelson so do doubt EVERYTHING prince says because he's told lies. no its a double standsrd. michael is not GOD he's not perfect justy like YOURE not perfect

StillDirrty said:

SEPHORA????
this skin bleaching stuff is fascinating.

i always thought mj's cheeks were red from some kind of acne treatment. i've been on retin a or peels i think will make you red like a tomato, but yeah it would be all over your face not just cheeks like that.

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Michael Jackson passed away almost two months ago, and yet he has continued to make as many headlines in death as he did during his bizarre and controversial life. And just when it seemed like the King Of Pop would finally be laid to rest and might at long last have some peace--on August 29, what would have been his 51st birthday--his private burial was postponed this week. Now Michael will instead be buried at L.A.'s Forest Lawn cemetery on September 3. No official reason was offered for the delay.

But perhaps the bigger MJ story this week centered on his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, who is soon to be officially charged with manslaughter, according to various news reports. This week the doctor, who was with Michael when he died June 25, posted a brief personal video on YouTube, thanking friends and patients for their support and insisting that he is innocent of any wrongdoing related to his star client's demise. He claimed that this video was his only way to speak out, due to death threats that have driven him into seclusion.


"Because of all that is going on, I am afraid to return phone calls or use my email," he stated. "I recorded this video to let all of you know that I have been receiving your messages...Your messages give me strength and courage and keep me going. They mean the world to me." He also added: "I have done all I could do. I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail."

The Los Angeles coroner's office revealed this week that it has completed its work determining Michael's cause of death, but will not release any results until police detectives finish their own investigation. Surely such developments will be reported in future blogs, so watch this space.

In other ongoing Jackson news, a new Jackson family reality show is reportedly slated to run on the A&E cable network sometime in the next month. Before Michael Jackson's death, his brothers Jackie, Marlon, and Tito apparently shot a one-hour pilot for a reality series, which was supposed to culminate in a ratings-garnering reunion performance featuring their famous sibling. However, even though Michael obviously died before such a finale could be filmed, the idea for the show lives on. According to a story in the Hollywood Reporter, A&E is in fact moving ahead with the Jacksons' program, altering the original concept from being lightheartedly focused on a possible Jackson 5 reunion to instead chronicling the surviving Jackson brothers' post-MJ lives as they "grapple with Michael's death."

Many fans will probably find this show to be in bad taste and exploitative...but it's likely that even more fans will tune in.


OMG the poor Doctor is getting death threats! We all knew this was coming, I kinda feel sorry for this poor Dr. Murray!

I think a reality show is a bit much...


http://new.music.yahoo.co...ce-action/

dearmother said:

Yeah it is real but most of that is or was a bad foundation match. Somebody must have told her how stupid she looked because now her foundation matches her skin.

http://campaign.constantc...oREQ%3D%3D

Thanks to the support of thousands of fans - thanks to YOUR support -
this most unique tribute begins...

Announcing the start of the largest Michael Jackson Tribute in the world!

The Michael Jackson Tribute Portrait
The only tribute created by the fans, for the fans

This Official Portrait of Michael Jackson will be created on canvas
from hand-drawn dots by Celebrity Artist David Ilan.
It will take one million dots to complete this interactive work of art.
Fans around the world are invited to "be a dot" in Michael's Portrait.

One Dot = One Fan

The first dots will be drawn at a
ribbon cutting ceremony one day before Michael's Birthday.

Friday, August 28, 2009 / Noon
EDGE Performing Arts Center
Hollywood, California

During this Media Event (by invitation only),
the first dot will be drawn for Michael.
The next dots will be for his children.
Invited Guests, including some of those who were closest to Michael, will be honored on this occasion with their dots. The three contest winners will receive their dots as well.

At the conclusion of this event, the new Tribute Website will be launched: www.MichaelJacksonTributePortrait.com


Here, fans around the world will be invited to get their FREE DOT to complete the portrait. You can also attach a message to your dot and "connect your dot" with other fans' dots by reading their messages and profiles. You will get your own dot number and a description of the location of your dot in his portrait.

This is the only tribute that allows fans worldwide to participate and forever be connected to Michael Jackson's legacy.

It is expected to take three months to complete Michael's Portrait. Following the World Tour of this work of art made from the dots of one million Michael Jackson fans, it will be permanently exhibited at a prestigious location. This location has will be announced at Friday's ceremony by a surprise guest!

Timmy84 said:

If only he was taught that growing up then maybe he wouldn't have been so miserable with the plastic surgery and all....

I bet he looked in the mirror and thought to himself what the fuck have I done to my face!
It was too late then....

cdcgold said:

It's common knowledge that Wesley Snipes bleached his skin. Because he wants too look whiter in order to reach a bigger audience.
I have a friend who didn't like him at the beginning, after WS had a lighter skin, he suddenly went to ALL his films.

graecophilos said:

if he bleached his skin why was he just as black in this picture that was taken within the past year

arabic egyption singer tamer hosny samples Michael jackson ( Don't stop till you get enough ) on his new album .....Tamer is very known and successful across the middle east,Mj's infulence is everywhere.



maybe the sampling doesn't sound good to some peole since they don't understand the language, but Im glad that there are people and artists from different cultures and races sampling his music.

R.I.P MJ.

The boy king who walked backwards is silenced
And the children gather no more around the throne
Tears fall across the territories
And fires will rage thereafter

I hear this is a actual Nostradamus quatrain. I hope not...kinda scary.

dearmother said:

It's not flat out bleaching creams because there would be some controversy. Their products claim that they will combat hyperpigmentation (people of color due suffer from this due to acne) & they promise to lighten the skin as well to even out the skin tone.

MIND=BLOWN

Chic35 said:

i'm not buying it look down her shirt, all white

EmeraldSkies said:

y sister has Vilitigo. she is white. (i don't like labels) but yea,she has this disease...her didn't spread though... her backs legs are snow white and she has huge whit patches on her front legs. that is as far as it went. when she was little my mom took her to get checked about it. they took skin graphs from her ankels to check to illlness. so far to the day it has not spread she is now 42.

Geez..I feel really stupid now. I thought that this was a skin condition that only affected people of color. I really cringed typing that,but since it has always been described as a skin condition that makes you lose pigmentation,I figured since white people are already white,we could'nt get any whiter.

Tangerine that was very nice of you to share something personal,I definately learned something from it.

The Roots of A Superstar Look

Michael Jackson never just got dressed; he turned it out!

"You never saw him in tennis shoes or sweats", say LA-based designer Rick Pallack., whose tuxedo Jackson wore on the eve of the release of "Thriller." "I have a picture of us on the beach in Hawaii, and he's wearing black shoes and, he's black slacks".

Jackson was old-school that way, like Sinatra or Astaire, both of whom he borrowed from --the trademark fedora from the former, the dance moves (and the tie-as-a-belt in his video "The Way You Make Me Feel") from the latter.
Even Jackson's short-cropped pants and signature white socks hark back to Old Hollywood.

"In a way, he's stealing from Gene Kelly", says American designer Michael Bastian. "You watch 'An American in Paris' and he's wearing short-cropped pants, white tube socks, and loafers. And the reason why was so you watched his feet move. It's a visual trick Gene Kelly invented. And when Michael did it, it was one dancer talking to another."


GQ Mag, September 2009 issue

EmeraldSkies said:

nah its okay. but yeah underneath without pigmentation we all just real 'colorless' i guess..just think of that movie 'Powder' how snow white he is. thats white thats what Vitiligo does looks like white paint ..snow white.no skin pigmentation. it don't take away who you are though. i hope i don't offend no one. just my story from my oldest sibling my sister.
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for searching the Internet and other reference sources

Depigmentation

Dermatology

Melanocytes

Photochemotherapy

Psoralens

What Is Vitiligo?
Melanocytes (MEL-a-no-sites) are special skin cells that make the pigment* that colors the skin, hair, eyes, and body linings. If these cells die or cannot make pigment, the affected skin gets lighter or completely white, causing vitiligo (vit-i-LY-go). The hair in affected areas also may turn white, and people with dark skin may notice a loss of color inside their mouths. No one knows for sure what makes melanocytes die or stop working in vitiligo.

* pigment
(PIG-ment) is a substance that imparts color to another substance.
Who Gets Vitiligo?

Vitiligo affects people of all races and both sexes equally. It affects one or two out of every 100 people. About half of all people who have vitiligo begin to lose pigment before they are 20 years old.

Vitiligo is common in people with certain immune system diseases and in children with parents who have the condition. However, most people with vitiligo have no immune system disease, and most children will not get vitiligo even if a parent has it. In fact, most people with vitiligo are in good general health and do not have a family history of the condition.

Vitiligo is more obvious in people with dark skin. Light-skinned people may notice the contrast between patches of vitiligo and areas of suntanned skin in the summer. The amount of pigment that is lost varies from person to person. The first white patches often occur on the hands, feet, arms, face, or lips. Other common areas for patches to appear are the armpits, the groin (the area where the inner thighs join the trunk), and around the navel (belly button) and genitals.

There is no way to know if vitiligo will spread to other parts of the body, but it usually does spread over time. For some people, this spread occurs rapidly, but for other people, it takes place over many years. Both sides of the body usually are affected in a similar way. There may be a few patches or there may be many.

How Is Vitiligo Diagnosed and Treated?
Diagnosis
To diagnose vitiligo, the doctor may ask about such things as a persons symptoms, whether or not the person has an immune system disorder, and whether or not vitiligo runs in the person’s family. The doctor also may suggest various tests to rule out other medical problems that can cause light skin patches.

Treatment
Vitiligo does not always need treatment. For some people with light skin, simply avoiding a suntan on areas of normal skin is enough to make the patches of vitiligo almost unnoticeable. Other people use makeup, skin dyes, or self-tanning products to cover up the vitiligo. Self-tanning products are creams that give the skin a tan color, but not a true tan. The color tends to wear off after a few days. None of these things changes the condition, but they can make the vitiligo less noticeable. In children, vitiligo usually is just covered up.

In adults, if covering up the vitiligo is not enough, a medical treatment may be tried, although results often cannot be seen for 6 to 18 months. The choice of treatment depends on the person’s wishes, how many white patches the person has, and how widespread the patches are. Not every treatment works for every person. There are several choices:

Corticosteroid (kor-ti-ko-STEER-oid) creams can be applied to the skin and sometimes can return color to small areas of vitiligo.
PUVA, which stands for psoralen (SOR-a-len) and ultraviolet A therapy. Ultraviolet A is the part of sunlight that can cause the skin to tan, and psoralens are substances that react with ultraviolet light to darken the skin. This medication is taken by mouth or applied to the skin, and then the light patches of skin are exposed to ultraviolet A light from a special lamp.
Skin grafting is an operation that involves moving skin from normal areas to white patches. It is useful only for a small number of people with vitiligo.
Depigmentation therapy involves using medication to fade the normal skin to match the whitened areas of vitiligo.
Living with Vitiligo
The white patches of vitiligo have no natural protection from the sun and are very easily sunburned. People with vitiligo should be careful to avoid exposure to midday sun, to cover up with clothing and a hat, and to use a sunscreen with a high SPF (sun protection factor) rating.

See also

Albinism

Skin Conditions

Resources
American Academy of Dermatology, 930 North Meacham Road, Schaumburg, IL 60173. The American Academy of Dermatology publishes a pamphlet called Vitiligo and posts a fact sheet about it at its website. Telephone 888-462-DERM http://www.aad.org/aadpam...iligo.html

The U.S. National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases posts a fact sheet called Questions and Answers About Vitiligo at its website. To order a pamphlet, contact the NIAMS Information Clearinghouse, 1 AMS Circle, Bethesda, MD 20892-3675. Telephone 301-495-4484 http://www.nih.gov/niams/...tiligo.htm

National Vitiligo Foundation, Inc., P.O. Box 6337, Tyler, TX 75703. This is a national group for people with vitiligo. Telephone 903-531-0074 http://nvfi.org

http://www.encyclopedia.c...00422.html
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Brett Ratner on Michael Jackson: 'You felt like God was within him'
June 26, 2009 | 12:25 pm

My father loves to brag to his friends that while his son is a big-shot Hollywood reporter, it was his father who actually met Michael Jackson. Until he retired a few years ago, my dad had a store called the 24 Collection on the Lincoln Road Mall in Miami Beach that specialized in fashion, jewelry, art and one-of-a-kind oddities (I still have a clock set into a Cuban cigar box with a portrait of Fidel Castro on the clock face). One day Brett Ratner, who grew up in Miami and whose mother was a regular customer at the store, called my dad and asked if he could bring his pal Michael Jackson by to look around. As he often did as a courtesy for celebrities who might be annoyed or hounded, my father closed the store that afternoon and put the staff at Jackson's disposal.

"Michael walked around every inch of the store, feeling things, smelling things," my father remembers. "He'd ask questions about what this was or that was, where it was from, how we found it. I made sure the staff didn't intrude on him, although one person did ask for an autograph, which made them an ex-employee right away. But Michael was just off in his own world, curious about everything he saw."

I think my dad got his hopes up when he saw that Jackson was also accompanied by an aide who had a zippered envelope full of cash. But the King of Pop never bought anything. After spending an hour in the store, he just thanked everyone for letting him look around and left.

I called Ratner this morning to ask him how he became such fast friends with Jackson. It turns out that they met in 1998 when Ratner was finishing his first "Rush Hour" picture. One day, Chris Tucker was doing a scene and broke into a wild, Michael Jackson-style dance. The sequence was so funny that when Ratner had test screenings of the film, it got one of the biggest laughs in the picture. But because it was an obvious Jackson impression, Ratner knew he had to clear it with the pop star before he could put it in the movie.

That presented a problem, since Jackson was so reclusive that even Ratner, one of the great celebrity schmoozers of our time, couldn't get to him. He even called Jackson's Neverland ranch but never got anywhere. Then he got lucky. "My editor was talking to the projectionist who ran the final screening and it turned out that he was Michael's personal projectionist," Ratner told me today. "So I gave him the print and asked him to play the beginning of the second reel for Michael, which had Chris' dance in it."

Two days later Ratner picked up the phone and heard the soft, feathery voice of Michael Jackson. So what did Michael say? Keep reading.

"Michael said he'd watched the whole movie and loved it, especially the scene Chris did with his dance. He said, 'You have my permission to use whatever you want.' " That was great, but Ratner needed something in writing. When he asked Jackson to sign something on a piece of paper, Jackson simply invited him up to the ranch. "So I drove up there and walked in, with all his giraffes and other animals, all out there to greet me." Ratner recalls. "I ended up staying at the ranch and we just became great friends. We both had this huge, almost childlike fascination with movies and music and all kinds of entertainment."

Over the years, Ratner and Jackson spent an enormous amount of time together. They would film each other, with Jackson asking Ratner about how he became a film director and Ratner asking Jackson about how he became an entertainer. "I have hours of footage of us, sitting around in our pajamas, with me asking him about what kind of music he loved as a kid, what kind of books he had on the wall as a kid. When you were with him, you really felt like God was within him. He was an amazing, superhuman kind of person, but he always treated you as an equal. He would be your friend and he never asked for anything in return."

One of their favorite activities was to have dance-offs in the game room at Jackson's house. Jackson would put on a record, usually a song by his sister, Janet, and unleash some awesome dance moves. Then Ratner or Chris Tucker, who would sometimes come along, would play Michael's records and dance along to them. I asked Ratner if that felt a little like a mere mortal playing one-on-one with LeBron James. "Hey, I wasn't self-conscious. I'm a pretty good dancer. It was just fun to do it together."

When they weren't dancing, Ratner and Jackson would watch movies together. He says they must've watched the original version of "Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" 50 times over the years. "I know that people looked at Michael and thought he was strange, but to me, he was fascinating," Ratner says. "He was the most inspirational person in my life. His one dream was to cure all the sick children in the world. And when I'd say, 'Isn't that impossible?' Michael would just start to cry. He was very emotional about things that moved him. I guess you'd have to say he was a pure innocent in a world that wasn't so innocent anymore."

http://latimesblogs.latim...human.html