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Reply #1230 posted 08/21/09 9:33pm

StillDirrty

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if he can get a drug that isn't for use outside of the hospital for use as something it wasn't intended to do. i'm sure he could get skin bleaching cream for something he didn't have.

i'm an addict i know what i'm talking about.
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What does you being an addict have to do with vitiligo & lupus?He's already been diagnosed and several doctors have come out and confirmed and talked about his condition. This is no relation to his abuse of the drug propofol.

If you know everything please explain this:
People with Vitiligo






Someone Who Bleaches Her Skin & Does Not Have Vitiligo:



Discoid Lupus




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Reply #1231 posted 08/21/09 9:36pm

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um is this real eek
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Reply #1232 posted 08/21/09 9:37pm

Timmy84

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um is this real eek


Yep.
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Reply #1233 posted 08/21/09 9:38pm

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holy shit wow thats scary as hell
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Reply #1234 posted 08/21/09 9:38pm

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StillDirrty said:

ehuffnsd said:


if he can get a drug that isn't for use outside of the hospital for use as something it wasn't intended to do. i'm sure he could get skin bleaching cream for something he didn't have.

i'm an addict i know what i'm talking about.
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What does you being an addict have to do with vitiligo & lupus?He's already been diagnosed and several doctors have come out and confirmed and talked about his condition. This is no relation to his abuse of the drug propofol.

If you know everything please explain this:

there are people with vitiligo and there are people with lupus.

however we also know to take what Michael says with a grain of salt, remember he claimed he only had 2 surgeries.

since he had no problem getting drugs he should have never gotten in the first place it's not outside the realm of possibility of him getting a cream he shouldn't have had either.
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Reply #1235 posted 08/21/09 9:39pm

StillDirrty


Yes. Kim has been bleaching.
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Reply #1236 posted 08/21/09 9:41pm

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yeah see why would mike make his patchy..hers "looks good"

i say that with.. eek
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Reply #1237 posted 08/21/09 9:41pm

StillDirrty

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there are people with vitiligo and there are people with lupus.

however we also know to take what Michael says with a grain of salt, remember he claimed he only had 2 surgeries.

since he had no problem getting drugs he should have never gotten in the first place it's not outside the realm of possibility of him getting a cream he shouldn't have had either.

You still haven't explained why he doesn't look like someone who has bleached versus someone who has vitiligo. Why does he look exactly like someone who suffers from lupus?Look at the pictures. Listen to the doctors and medical professionals. There are plenty of videos on youtube. Research the difference between skin bleaching and depigmentation & research lupus.
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Reply #1238 posted 08/21/09 9:46pm

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Why would she want to bleach her skin?
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Reply #1239 posted 08/21/09 9:52pm

StillDirrty

Well skin bleaching is very popular among people of color. It's a big money making industry in places like India and other Asian countries. It makes sense because plenty of them experience institutionalized racism and colorism within their community which causes them to want to lighten their skin to conform to the European mold of beauty. I've even seen some products now on Sephora.com

Kim now looks like a light-skinned black or Asian. She will never be white though.
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Reply #1240 posted 08/21/09 9:57pm

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remember he claimed he only had 2 surgeries.


That was a nice way of saying "It's none of your business how many surgeries I've had."
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Reply #1241 posted 08/21/09 9:57pm

Timmy84

She still has her brown skin tho. She do be putting on makeup to appear different but I bet without it, her skin's still brown.
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Reply #1242 posted 08/21/09 10:01pm

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StillDirrty said:

Well skin bleaching is very popular among people of color. It's a big money making industry in places like India and other Asian countries. It makes sense because plenty of them experience institutionalized racism and colorism within their community which causes them to want to lighten their skin to conform to the European mold of beauty. I've even seen some products now on Sephora.com

Kim now looks like a light-skinned black or Asian. She will never be white though.


Yeah,okay,but would she have to keep bleaching it? I would think that,constantly doing that would'nt be all that great for the condition of her skin.
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Reply #1243 posted 08/21/09 10:01pm

StillDirrty

Um yes. I've been suspicious of Beyonce and Rihanna doing things like that as well. I've seen them at times having foundation on that is CLEARLY too light for their skin.
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Reply #1244 posted 08/21/09 10:13pm

Timmy84

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Um yes. I've been suspicious of Beyonce and Rihanna doing things like that as well. I've seen them at times having foundation on that is CLEARLY too light for their skin.


Yep, I saw a recent concert pic of Beyonce and almost threw up, she looked albino. confused
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Reply #1245 posted 08/21/09 10:17pm

StillDirrty

Skin bleaching creams can cause cancer because some contain hydroquinone & mercury. Some of the products have been banned already because of the dangers.
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Reply #1246 posted 08/21/09 10:18pm

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StillDirrty said:

Um yes. I've been suspicious of Beyonce and Rihanna doing things like that as well. I've seen them at times having foundation on that is CLEARLY too light for their skin.


This is kind of facsinating,but I don't know why. I clearly just don't understand it. shrug
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Reply #1247 posted 08/21/09 10:20pm

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StillDirrty said:

ehuffnsd said:


if he can get a drug that isn't for use outside of the hospital for use as something it wasn't intended to do. i'm sure he could get skin bleaching cream for something he didn't have.

i'm an addict i know what i'm talking about.
[Edited 8/21/09 21:12pm]

What does you being an addict have to do with vitiligo & lupus?He's already been diagnosed and several doctors have come out and confirmed and talked about his condition. This is no relation to his abuse of the drug propofol.

If you know everything please explain this:
People with Vitiligo






Someone Who Bleaches Her Skin & Does Not Have Vitiligo:



Discoid Lupus






That almost looks like rosacea.
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Reply #1248 posted 08/21/09 10:30pm

Timmy84

EmeraldSkies said:

StillDirrty said:


What does you being an addict have to do with vitiligo & lupus?He's already been diagnosed and several doctors have come out and confirmed and talked about his condition. This is no relation to his abuse of the drug propofol.

If you know everything please explain this:
People with Vitiligo






Someone Who Bleaches Her Skin & Does Not Have Vitiligo:



Discoid Lupus






That almost looks like rosacea.



hmmm When I first saw this, I thought it was makeup. lol I didn't even know that lupus looked like that so I was shocked when I read on how you can look as if you have rosy cheeks and you have a skin disease. The lupus probably did trigger the vitiligo more so than his Pepsi incident.
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Reply #1249 posted 08/21/09 11:09pm

StillDirrty

I knew there was something wrong other than vitiligo because when I actually looked at the pics from the '80s there was something very off about his skin. The cheeks looked very unnatural almost like they were inflamed. & during Bad Era he still has that redness in the cheeks.The specialists said that since he had two Auto-Immune skin diseases that made it harder for him.
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Reply #1250 posted 08/21/09 11:21pm

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Timmy84 said:

EmeraldSkies said:



That almost looks like rosacea.



hmmm When I first saw this, I thought it was makeup. lol I didn't even know that lupus looked like that so I was shocked when I read on how you can look as if you have rosy cheeks and you have a skin disease. The lupus probably did trigger the vitiligo more so than his Pepsi incident.


Well at least you noticed it! lol When I would see these pictures my only thought was "God,he's SO cute!!!" drool lol
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Reply #1251 posted 08/21/09 11:22pm

Timmy84

StillDirrty said:

I knew there was something wrong other than vitiligo because when I actually looked at the pics from the '80s there was something very off about his skin. The cheeks looked very unnatural almost like they were inflamed. & during Bad Era he still has that redness in the cheeks.The specialists said that since he had two Auto-Immune skin diseases that made it harder for him.


I can believe it. Funny thing I didn't know he was even diagnosed with it until years later but those pictures definitely show symptoms of lupus.
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Reply #1252 posted 08/21/09 11:25pm

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StillDirrty said:

I knew there was something wrong other than vitiligo because when I actually looked at the pics from the '80s there was something very off about his skin. The cheeks looked very unnatural almost like they were inflamed. & during Bad Era he still has that redness in the cheeks.The specialists said that since he had two Auto-Immune skin diseases that made it harder for him.


It almost looks like a sunburn or rosacea.
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Reply #1253 posted 08/21/09 11:26pm

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Jackson Memorabilia Tour Approved; London's 02 First Destination

August 21


A judge on Friday firmly approved a deal between Michael Jackson's estate and a concert promoter to exhibit his memorabilia, praising the arrangement that the singer's mother had fought in court over her concerns that it could harm his legacy and wasn't competitively bid.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff approved the deal that's expected to earn Jackson's estate up to $6 million, saying after four hours of mostly closed-door testimony that there was "no question in my mind this agreement is in the best interest of the estate."

Beckloff noted the lack of a reasonable alternative presented by Katherine Jackson's attorneys, alluding to a mention made in court of a company starting up in the Middle East that might be able to handle the exhibitions.

"The most foolhardy thing the administrators could do is connect with some startup company from the Middle East," he said.

The show will open in London's 02 Arena, where Jackson was set to kick off his "This is It" tour this summer.

"I think everybody is going to be thrilled with the results," said John Norman, president and CEO of the exhibit's promoter, AEG Live-owned Arts and Entertainment International. "It will be great to celebrate this man's legacy."

AEG Live, the company that was preparing Jackson's 50-concert comeback tour when he died June 25, plans to open the exhibit around the Oct. 28 release of a film using footage of the singer's final rehearsals. Attorneys for Katherine Jackson had tried to block the deal, arguing it should have been competitively bid, and that the estate should have a larger cut of the proceeds than the 50-50 split negotiated with AEG.

John Schreiber, an attorney for Katherine Jackson, suggested there was no need to hurry or conduct "a fire sale" of the memorabilia. But the judge chided his "hyperbole about rushing to judgment and fire sale and giving away the store" as inappropriate, and said he was convinced the negotiations were above board.

Meg Lodise, an attorney appointed to represent the interests of Jackson's three children, agreed that the deal was in the best interests of the youngsters, who are entitled to 40 percent of their father's estate. Katherine Jackson is the beneficiary of another 40 percent, with 20 percent going to unnamed charities.

Norman said the memorabilia exhibition calls for a three-city tour spread over two years that would stay four to six months in each city. He said he didn't know what would be included in the exhibit, but that there were warehouses of material to select from, including items from Jackson's Neverland Ranch and the "This is It" shows. The selection process would begin on Monday, he said.

AEG attorney Kathy Jorrie noted in closing arguments that AEG has gone from being a potential creditor to Jackson's estate with millions of dollars in claims to becoming a partner in its success. She said some of the costs of Jackson's public memorial at the Staples Center are factored into the agreement, but that the exact amounts are confidential.

Burt Levitch, one of Katherine Jackson's attorneys, said he hoped AEG would show sensitivity in how it portrays Jackson. The contract approved Friday requires the promoter to collaborate with the administrators of Jackson's estate, but Katherine Jackson may not have a formal say in how it is crafted.

"Mrs. Jackson still feels there are certain aspects of the AEG deal that could have been improved upon," Levitch said.

Katherine Jackson's attorneys have also filed a motion seeking Beckloff's permission to contest the ability of attorney John Branca and music executive John McClain _ who were named as co-executors in Jackson's will _ to administer her son's estate. A hearing on that motion is scheduled for September.





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Reply #1254 posted 08/21/09 11:30pm

Timmy84

EmeraldSkies said:

StillDirrty said:

I knew there was something wrong other than vitiligo because when I actually looked at the pics from the '80s there was something very off about his skin. The cheeks looked very unnatural almost like they were inflamed. & during Bad Era he still has that redness in the cheeks.The specialists said that since he had two Auto-Immune skin diseases that made it harder for him.


It almost looks like a sunburn or rosacea.


It does but it's not all over his face, if it was, then that's plausible.
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Reply #1255 posted 08/21/09 11:40pm

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Timmy84 said:

EmeraldSkies said:



It almost looks like a sunburn or rosacea.


It does but it's not all over his face, if it was, then that's plausible.
[Edited 8/21/09 23:30pm]


Oh,I'm not saying that it isn't lupus,I was just saying that for someone that wasn't aware of what lupus might look like,it could be seen as a sunburn or rosacea.
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Reply #1256 posted 08/21/09 11:41pm

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Hello ya'll!

I am new here, but have been lurking around for a long time. Just wanted to say that I am a HUGE Michael Jackson fan. Always was, even in the last years, and will always be.

Anyhow, just wanted to say thank you for the interesting posts. You have kept me glued to my computer for the past few weeks, and I have found out so much stuff about Mike that I did not know.

Thanks again!

P.S. Yay! My first post! biggrin
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Reply #1257 posted 08/21/09 11:42pm

Timmy84

EmeraldSkies said:

Timmy84 said:



It does but it's not all over his face, if it was, then that's plausible.
[Edited 8/21/09 23:30pm]


Oh,I'm not saying that it isn't lupus,I was just saying that for someone that wasn't aware of what lupus might look like,it could be seen as a sunburn or rosacea.
[Edited 8/21/09 23:41pm]


Nah I understand what you were saying. lol I was just saying it as a matter of fact thing, lol.
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Reply #1258 posted 08/21/09 11:43pm

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LaSeles said:

Hello ya'll!

I am new here, but have been lurking around for a long time. Just wanted to say that I am a HUGE Michael Jackson fan. Always was, even in the last years, and will always be.

Anyhow, just wanted to say thank you for the interesting posts. You have kept me glued to my computer for the past few weeks, and I have found out so much stuff about Mike that I did not know.

Thanks again!

P.S. Yay! My first post! biggrin


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Reply #1259 posted 08/21/09 11:45pm

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Copycat said:




Jackson Memorabilia Tour Approved; London's 02 First Destination

August 21


A judge on Friday firmly approved a deal between Michael Jackson's estate and a concert promoter to exhibit his memorabilia, praising the arrangement that the singer's mother had fought in court over her concerns that it could harm his legacy and wasn't competitively bid.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff approved the deal that's expected to earn Jackson's estate up to $6 million, saying after four hours of mostly closed-door testimony that there was "no question in my mind this agreement is in the best interest of the estate."

Beckloff noted the lack of a reasonable alternative presented by Katherine Jackson's attorneys, alluding to a mention made in court of a company starting up in the Middle East that might be able to handle the exhibitions.

"The most foolhardy thing the administrators could do is connect with some startup company from the Middle East," he said.

The show will open in London's 02 Arena, where Jackson was set to kick off his "This is It" tour this summer.

"I think everybody is going to be thrilled with the results," said John Norman, president and CEO of the exhibit's promoter, AEG Live-owned Arts and Entertainment International. "It will be great to celebrate this man's legacy."

AEG Live, the company that was preparing Jackson's 50-concert comeback tour when he died June 25, plans to open the exhibit around the Oct. 28 release of a film using footage of the singer's final rehearsals. Attorneys for Katherine Jackson had tried to block the deal, arguing it should have been competitively bid, and that the estate should have a larger cut of the proceeds than the 50-50 split negotiated with AEG.

John Schreiber, an attorney for Katherine Jackson, suggested there was no need to hurry or conduct "a fire sale" of the memorabilia. But the judge chided his "hyperbole about rushing to judgment and fire sale and giving away the store" as inappropriate, and said he was convinced the negotiations were above board.

Meg Lodise, an attorney appointed to represent the interests of Jackson's three children, agreed that the deal was in the best interests of the youngsters, who are entitled to 40 percent of their father's estate. Katherine Jackson is the beneficiary of another 40 percent, with 20 percent going to unnamed charities.

Norman said the memorabilia exhibition calls for a three-city tour spread over two years that would stay four to six months in each city. He said he didn't know what would be included in the exhibit, but that there were warehouses of material to select from, including items from Jackson's Neverland Ranch and the "This is It" shows. The selection process would begin on Monday, he said.

AEG attorney Kathy Jorrie noted in closing arguments that AEG has gone from being a potential creditor to Jackson's estate with millions of dollars in claims to becoming a partner in its success. She said some of the costs of Jackson's public memorial at the Staples Center are factored into the agreement, but that the exact amounts are confidential.

Burt Levitch, one of Katherine Jackson's attorneys, said he hoped AEG would show sensitivity in how it portrays Jackson. The contract approved Friday requires the promoter to collaborate with the administrators of Jackson's estate, but Katherine Jackson may not have a formal say in how it is crafted.

"Mrs. Jackson still feels there are certain aspects of the AEG deal that could have been improved upon," Levitch said.

Katherine Jackson's attorneys have also filed a motion seeking Beckloff's permission to contest the ability of attorney John Branca and music executive John McClain _ who were named as co-executors in Jackson's will _ to administer her son's estate. A hearing on that motion is scheduled for September.





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