Riverpoet31 said:

Oh my God! Why didn't I see that earlier?! Vitiligo was a fake diagnosis perpetuated by Jackson and his cronies so that he could further distance himself from the Black race and literally pass for 'white'by means of multiple surgical procedures. Thanks!

Excerpt from the GQ article:

"Quincy Jones's nickname for him is Smelly. It comes from Michael's habit of constantly touching and covering his nose with the fingers of his left hand, a tic that becomes pronounced in news clips from this time. He feels embarrassed about his broad nose."


I thought his nickname was Smelly because he didn't like cursing, so he would say "Smelly"?

dag said:

Teddy Riley was my favorite MJ producer. "In The Closet" ranks up there as their finest hour. I couldn't read the remainder of the article because of the small print; therefore I intend to buy this issue of Hip Hop Weekly.

^^ It'd be better if someone post a transcript.

In the home demo to "Billie Jean", is that Janet singing background with Michael on the chorus?

ViintageJunkiie said:

It's probably her on the six minute demo we kept hearing, don't know about the first home demo from '81. MJ recorded three demos for the song, so it's not clear where Janet was heard on, it could've been the first one where MJ's like "I need more bomb and kick in the [head]phones." He also said Randy was playing guitar on one of the demos.

ViintageJunkiie said:

I thought "smelly" was MJ's term for "funky".

WaterInYourBath said:

Copycat said:

MJ also said "smelly" when he didn't wanna curse. If Quincy would say "that's the shit", MJ would say "that's smelly right there!"

ViintageJunkiie said:

That's what I heard.

Timmy84 said:

Yea I think it's her in the "more kick" demo. I never noticed until they mentioned it in the GQ article. I just listened and it's most def her. He should have used her vocals on the final version

Copycat said:

That too! I just remember Quincy saying that it was because he didn't like cursing, so he would say "that's smelly right there!"

ViintageJunkiie said:

Stupid how they make up stuff, Not surprised.

NMuzakNSoul said:

Right! Like, how can they make something like that up?

Timmy84 said:

That would have been confusing hanging out with him if you did'nt know this information.

MJ- That's smelly right there

Me- Whaa? I don't smell anything.

Copycat said:

Honest discussion? - LMAO. like this hasn't been beaten to death a thousand times over. you know what RIP means right?

I love how they give us the lyrics to the demo when he mumbles half of the words. Did they just fill in what they "think" he said?



Excerpt from GQ article

"At home he demos "Billie Jean" with Randy and Janet. When what will be the immortal part comes around, she and Michael go, "Whoo whoo / Whoo whoo.""

"On this home demo, made between the "writing version" and the album version, you get to hear Michael's early, mystical placeholder vocals, laid down before he'd written the verses. We hear him say, "More kick and stuff in the 'phones.… I need, uh…more bottom and kick in the 'phones.""

Then the music.

[Mumble mumble mum] oh, to say
On the phone to stay…
Oh, born out of time
All the while I see other eyes
One at a time
We'll go where the winds unwind

She told me her voice belonged to me
And I'm here to see
She called my name, then you said, Hello
Oh, then I died
And said, Gotta go in a ride

Seems that you knew my mind, now live
On that day got it made
Oh, mercy, it does care of what you do
Take care of what you do
Lord, they're coming down


Most def Janet singing the chorus with MJ

jamgirl said:

excuse me for stating my opinion. and for the record i don't see what i want to see. i call it as i see it. if i wanted to see something thats not there i would see a resemblance between paris and michael but i don't. i want her to be michaels daughter and think she is. but i could never say with a straight face that she looks anything like mj or the jacksons .because she just doesn't so don't try to make me out to be some fool. TO ME prince looks like mj maybe not to you. but he does to me. he may not be a clone like blanket but he stills looks alot like michael TO ME
[Edited 8/21/09 16:18pm]

EmeraldSkies said:

Yeah, that would be weird. I'd be like "what, something stinks?"

MJ: "No, no, I meant the music, it's funky, smelly, get it?"

And I'd be like "OH!" looking like a dummy.

ViintageJunkiie said:

I'm hearing it now. Yep that IS Janet!

Timmy84 said:

yes! I'm over here smiling so hard because all the times i've heard this, I never payed attention to Janets vocals!

ViintageJunkiie said:

Right, me either, I just assume it was MJ doing all the vocals, but hearing it closer you can clearly hear Janet. Odd how you notice things especially after you haven't listened to them in a while. It was amusing when MJ mentioned "oh that's me and Janet going whoo whoo" on the EBONY interview.
[Edited 8/21/09 16:24pm]

Timmy84 said:

right .. well , i guess we can say that she had a part in the song

ViintageJunkiie said:

Or was just helping her brother out. Remember she was also on the "Off the Wall" demos. I don't know if she was singing on "Working Day & Night" demo but I can clearly hear her on "Don't Stop" with Randy and Michael.

Timmy84 said:

HaHa @ her yelling about the headphones. I need to hear a Janet demo. I've never heard one. All of her unreleased songs that leaked are outtakes, but I would love to hear how her recording process works

cdcgold said:

Ahhhhh please not this again you are seriously obsessed.
[Edited 8/21/09 17:13pm]

kremlinshadow said:

I wish Michaels kids still wore their masks at times like this

Hello.....

The mockery will never stop.....


The mockery continues ,,,,,

ViintageJunkiie said:

That conversation Randy, Michael & Janet had on "Working" was hilarious.

Randy: "Michael? Michael turn down my earphones, man."
Michael: "I turned them down."
Janet: "He's trying, Randy!"
Randy and Janet bickering
Janet: "WELL TAKE THEM OFF WILL YA!?"
Randy: "Shut up!"
Michael laughs

Timmy84 said:

LMAO! Everytime I hear Randy say "shut up!" I laugh so loud! He was mad!