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Reply #1110 posted 08/21/09 11:43am

Timmy84

EmeraldSkies said:

Timmy84 said:



What, that he was handsome the way he was?


Yes.


I think in the case of MJ, beauty was only skin deep, least in his final years.
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Reply #1111 posted 08/21/09 11:44am

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I had keloids on the nape of my neck & discoloration on my face when I was a teen. The teasing from family and friends was difficult at times to manage. Several visits to doctors finally gave me peace, but people can be cruel.
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Reply #1112 posted 08/21/09 11:45am

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Yes.


I think in the case of MJ, beauty was only skin deep, least in his final years.

How do you mean that?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1113 posted 08/21/09 11:46am

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See this is what I keep thinking,I don't really like to look at pictures of him in his later life,because that is not the Michael I relate with. He was beautiful already,he did'nt need all those surgeries. I wonder if anyone ever told him that? sigh

Of course, he didn´t need the surgery, but what can you do? He had his insecurities and maybe he wouldn´t look good with that wide nose white either. I think someone (can´t remember who it was) said that they discussed the surgeries with Mike and that he admitted that they didn´t turn out the way he wanted to, but I don´t care, really, or I do, but not to the point where it would effect my love for him. I can see his beauty in all eras. He had his bad days, of course. He´s just Mike and I love him.


I'm not saying that I don't love him,that is one thing that would never happen.
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Reply #1114 posted 08/21/09 11:47am

Timmy84

dag said:

Timmy84 said:



I think in the case of MJ, beauty was only skin deep, least in his final years.

How do you mean that?


Beauty is on the inside.
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Reply #1115 posted 08/21/09 11:47am

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dag said:


How do you mean that?


Beauty is on the inside.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1116 posted 08/21/09 11:48am

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WAS? confused
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Reply #1117 posted 08/21/09 11:53am

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Pure perfection.



nod .... sigh

I've wanted a clone of '80-'81 Mike for so long. lol
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Reply #1118 posted 08/21/09 11:55am

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You can't lump everyone of one race together like that. I am white,and I have never had nor ever will feel any hatred toward black people,and there are alot of other white people that feel the same.


I have this quote as one of my profile titles in a MJ board: "Racism is overrated".


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Reply #1119 posted 08/21/09 12:00pm

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1986

Experts say Jackson has his hairline, eyebrows, and eyelash lines tattooed, along with more nose thinning. The tattooing is apparently a necessity. Klein, his new dermatologist, diagnoses lupus, which causes rashes and hair loss, and vitiligo, causing blotchy loss of pigment. Vitiligo patients can lighten dark patches with a strong hydroquinone bleaching cream—Jackson's choice, though he denies using it. (Source: Allure.com)











1987

Many assume he is having continual nose surgery, but insiders believe he is instead having frequent injections of Kenalog, a steroid used to reduce scar tissue after surgery. Reduction of skin thickness is a side effect. The shots are painful, so it is common practice to sedate the patient with propofol (a.k.a. Diprivan), a fast-acting anesthetic. Jackson is said to have developed an affection for this drug as a sleep aid.
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Reply #1120 posted 08/21/09 12:06pm

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dag said:



Pure perfection.



nod .... sigh

I've wanted a clone of '80-'81 Mike for so long. lol


If anyone could be cloned,it should be him. nod
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Reply #1121 posted 08/21/09 12:10pm

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Experts say Jackson has his hairline, eyebrows, and eyelash lines tattooed, along with more nose thinning. The tattooing is apparently a necessity. Klein, his new dermatologist, diagnoses lupus, which causes rashes and hair loss, and vitiligo, causing blotchy loss of pigment. Vitiligo patients can lighten dark patches with a strong hydroquinone bleaching cream—Jackson's choice, though he denies using it. (Source: Allure.com)

I am sorry, but there´s a footage of Mike making the Ghosts where they wipe his make-up off and he does not any eyelash lines. Look at the right eye at 5:19.


And if vitiligo spread all over his body, was he supposed to paint himself completely black again or what? If he used that bleaching cream, it was because of vitiligo. It was not his "choice". He was trying to stay black for many years and the recent picture of MIke from victory tour proves that. Based just on this picture, he was trying to be black from 1984 to 1989 during the Bad Tour which is quite a while for someone who wanted to be white so desperately.

I think that´s long enough. I hate when people say he "wanted" to be white, it was HIS choice.

Another cool picture.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1122 posted 08/21/09 12:10pm

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its becoming so painful reading about him...
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Reply #1123 posted 08/21/09 12:18pm

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I dig this picture.
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Reply #1124 posted 08/21/09 12:19pm

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can i just say i had NO idea his eyebrows were tattooed on

they actually did look better
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Reply #1125 posted 08/21/09 12:20pm

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also in that '86 pic he's had something other than nose thinning, his face looks "fatter" id imagine it's swelling from an implant
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Reply #1126 posted 08/21/09 12:21pm

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can i just say i had NO idea his eyebrows were tattooed on

they actually did look better

Tattooed? Than how come he had different shapes at different times?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1127 posted 08/21/09 12:23pm

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WaterInYourBath said:



nod .... sigh

I've wanted a clone of '80-'81 Mike for so long. lol


If anyone could be cloned,it should be him. nod
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Yeah, that's a sci-fi fantasy of mine. lol The clone would also have his sweet/rare personality too. heart As others posted on the previous page, his inner beauty was wonderful as well (and extremely cute and loving). smile
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Reply #1128 posted 08/21/09 12:26pm

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can i just say i had NO idea his eyebrows were tattooed on

they actually did look better

Tattooed? Than how come he had different shapes at different times?


that's what allure said lol, i dunno if i buy it either. they looked real to me!!
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Reply #1129 posted 08/21/09 12:28pm

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I think that´s long enough. I hate when people say he "wanted" to be white, it was HIS choice.


I think the mag was trying to emphasize that he was too embarrassed to admit that he used a bleaching cream to even out his skin tone because of vitiligo. Which I can understand, given America's obsession with light and dark skin, straight and kinky hair.
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Reply #1130 posted 08/21/09 12:30pm

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Look how little he changed. Picture from 2003. Consider the tons of surgery he´s supposed to have.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1131 posted 08/21/09 12:35pm

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Tattooed? Than how come he had different shapes at different times?


that's what allure said lol, i dunno if i buy it either. they looked real to me!!

Then why post this s*** over here. These experts... rolleyes
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1132 posted 08/21/09 12:36pm

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i really think if he had "stayed black" people wouldn't care much about his plastic surgery, kinda sad
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Reply #1133 posted 08/21/09 12:38pm

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Jackson Family Moves Burial Service to Sept. 3

Los Angeles Times
August 21




Michael Jackson's family has moved the date of his burial at Forest Lawn Memorial-Park in Glendale to Sept. 3 at 7 p.m.

No reason has given for the change. Originally, the event was to take place Aug. 29 at what would have been his 51th birthday.

The family will be footing the bill for the burial, including the city costs for police and other public services, Glendale officials said.

The ceremony is supposed to be for family and friends in the expansive cemetery's Great Mausoleum, according to a statement from the family publicist. The pop singer's remains will be placed in a crypt in the Holly Terrace section of the mausoleum, a massive building that is the final resting place for stars from film's golden age, such as Jean Harlow, Carole Lombard and Clark Gable.


The original funeral announcement Tuesday capped two months of rumors that began even before Jackson's gold-plated casket was rolled into Staples Center on July 7 for a televised memorial. That day began with a service at Forest Lawn-Hollywood Hills but ended without a burial or interment. One report had his body stored in a crypt owned by Motown founder Berry Gordy Jr., and there was widespread speculation that an elaborate grave -- and, ultimately, a Graceland-style museum -- would be constructed at the entertainer's Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara County.



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Reply #1134 posted 08/21/09 12:39pm

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lol
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #1135 posted 08/21/09 12:43pm

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i really think if he had "stayed black" people wouldn't care much about his plastic surgery, kinda sad
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But I don´t understand what´s so incomprehensible about this. I mean would you paint your whole self back black every-single day? I really don´t get why people make such a fuss about it.
Plus I am not sure if this "bleaching" procedure makes you completely white without any blotches. Cause if it does, he obviously didn´t do it because he always had blotches.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1136 posted 08/21/09 12:44pm

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Then why post this s*** over here. These experts... rolleyes



Allure interviewed Dr Steven Hoefflin, MJ's plastic surgeon through the 1980s and '90s.
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Reply #1137 posted 08/21/09 12:45pm

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dag said:

Then why post this s*** over here. These experts... rolleyes



Allure interviewed Dr Steven Hoefflin, MJ's plastic surgeon through the 1980s and '90s.


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"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #1138 posted 08/21/09 12:50pm

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dag said:

Then why post this s*** over here. These experts... rolleyes



Allure interviewed Dr Steven Hoefflin, MJ's plastic surgeon through the 1980s and '90s.

Are you sure it´s real? Why do they say "experts" then and not MJ´s personal plastic surgeon? I don´t know how reliable of a source Allure is.

As for the propofol story, I am still waiting for the autopsy results before I come to a conclusion, but I find it hard to believe that he would be taking something like that for so long at home (when it´s supposed to be used only in hospitals) and be killed by it only after couple of years.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1139 posted 08/21/09 12:52pm

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lol


"That doll ain't as cute as me... batting eyes "

lol
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