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PrintableEmeraldSkies said: tangerine7 said: G- Tell me how it happened (inaudible) cause its changed you a bit. (inaudible) (inaudible) inaudible)(inaudible) (inaudible) (5 minutes) G- I have time,just tell me ! Why her ...? M- lemme see.. well (private) ,she wasn't quite 18 when she had to enroll in (her school )that's why she wanted me to just say I'd check on her once in a while.... they know I have a lot of (inaudible) even if I cant personally be there. I think she never thought I would ... (pause) (MJ-I'm on the phone..to someone) G- So did you feel something right away with her. M- No, we were just friends at this point. At first she was (inaudible) difficult with reservations..but then she saw I wasn't gonna be like that..... She was very sweet ... and easy to be around and talk to. Its funny I would be around her and not feel like "michael Jackson (inaudible).." you know what I mean? She stayed at the dorms and she had her (inaudible) apartment also. She just called me to say she was fine and thank you for everything. G- I think she wasn't affected by who you are. (Glenda has a few interjections in between this but I didn't add them) M- Yes!! I hadn't really had that ..that....spark... no..... that connection. It was fun talking to her and I gave her the number to always reach me. She didn't really call. I thought about her... So I picked up the phone and I said to her "Can I spend some time with you this weekend." She was like "I have a lot of studying but she'd let me know" That was (inaudible)..so I had my things to do and I thought she would call... no call.. I was like Gosh..she can't even pick up the phone to say she can't come (inaudible).. So I called...i said (softly) "why didn't you call me , I'm waiting for your call" and she's like "Oh I forgot , I was busy,blah blah blah" (inaudible)(inaudible) She (inaudible) me curious about her.. she was so different than anyone else.. She was very independent ..very strong willed yet very very shy.... she also funny as hell... she comes very spoiled .....only daughter (inaudible) (inaudible) and wanted to be low key over here so she had to learn all sorts of stuff.. she never did laundry, never had fast food, and she loved american clothes....you can imagine.... just funny stuff... (muffled) happens to her.. G- Must have been a real eye opener..a whole new world..? (The audio kind of jumps some sort of beeping) (starts) M- She had turned 18 ..and away from home so I invited her to neverland I wanted to celebrate her 18th birthday , she asked that it just be us because she wasn’t comfortable around too many people. So It was just us and we enjoyed the rides ..she loves animals… she had a great time..... I had the best time with her. She stayed that weekend and we hung out in my room…you know just watching movies ..talking. (inaudible).. we had cake , presents....just giving her a fun birthday...just us. That was the start of our true friendship. I saw her off and on but we were just so busy but we talked..we would stay up till late, almost morning.. just talking. G- Did you start to feel something for her.. M- yes friendship, After her break, when she came back to start..... from () ...a little early around my birthday cause I asked her to join me for the show. G- does your family know? M- they know her ..not everything.. (inaudible) they don't need to know ..they use to lots of people around ....so they have no idea . I'm not about to expain (inaudible) G- so now your still only friends right? M- yes. She went back to school and we spent even more time together especially on the phone..she was confiding in me her deepest... (inaudible) secrets.. and her (inaudible) of her situation. I did the same...I trusted her and I trust even more now.. G- That's why I didn't hear from you much then...ahahah (laughing) You need to call me more often... M- No its not that I didn't even know it then.. okay I'll admit it ..I had a little crush..she was just beautiful.. just very fresh..innocent.....her expressions, her shyness , she was just charming...(pause) and (hushed) and sexy... the way she always looked away when I tried (inaudible) to look her in the eye. she wouldn't let me see her..it drove me mad. G- you didn't tell her? M- NOOO .. I tried to not think that way...and I had no idea how she felt. If it was anything she never once gave it away (inaudible) ,,,she always pulled away if I got too close.. So I just held it inside cause I thought she doesn't feel it and I knew I shouldn't ...it wasn't good for me or her. G – she was probably scared.., how did she pull away..did she know (inaudible) thinking. M- well, you know how sometimes were just ..like..horsing around and whatever...we have water (muffled) fights with the kids,, I would just grab her before she can get me and just so many times ours faces..sometimes lips.. touch. Sometimes I wait.., to kind of dare her to kiss me, but she runs off..just pretending its not happening.. God..those were so frustrating times (inaudible) god... but so much fun.. I'm glad I finally did something ~~~~~ G- what! M- I decided I would hold her there next time we were close and I was gonna make the first move. It didn't work out though, she just gives me grief(inaudible)(inaudible). G- (laughing) you must of been so frustrated. M - well things..it changed, - I was away working on a commercial... That was the first time I really felt that she felt something more. She sent me my favorite (inaudible) candies that I couldn't get there and flowers to remind me of neverland.... a (inaudible) miss you note....Just sweet...she was actually showing me love..she missed me cuz we had started spending a lot more time together and this was a long absence(inaudible)(inaudible). G- I can't believe you never told me all this. M- I didn't want to tell ANYONE, I didn't know what would happen,,how it would turn out...(inaudible) if anything at all. G-so did she tell you how she felt??? M- No she showed me..she doesn't show her feeling but her action showed me. When I saw her again..we were at her apartment. She gave me some juice and we started watching a horror ...she never seen (an american werewolf in london?) so I brought it over , she put it in (inaudible)So she just snuggled up to me on the sofa. First time she got so close on her own(inaudible), I won't forget it, she must of felt my heart just jumped out... G- this is what you wanted, her to open up to you M- yeah, I can't stop smiling thinking about it. I can still remember the feeling...falling for her...(pause) .. I kissed her on the forehead while we were watching the movie..she let me, she hugged me even closer and I kinda just kept kissing her on her hair, and (inaudible)...just ..like my arms caressing her . I was dyin..yes literally dyin... G_ OMg this is picturesque. then what? M- Well I remember every detail of this...(mmm).....after the movie , I still had my arms around her ...I kissed her forehead again and said thank you for spending time with or (watching the movie with me) ( cant hear this)..... and she reached up and kissed me back on the cheek. I knew I wanted this so bad so I held her face there and just kissed her. And she kissed me back just as intensely. And we just kissed for a long time!!! And she tasted good...(inaudible)(inaudible) G-- (laughing) Oh Michael , I bet she did . M- No i'm telling you , she tasted like candy , she still does . G- I just can't believe how close you have gotten?? to her. Can you imagine....we spend so much time discussing it. I know its real for you. I'm happy , it s great story to tell. ~~~~~ M- The thing about it , That day she just let me know , she was ready to have more. After spending many a nights together (inaudible) nothing more than a hug. Now (inaudible) tells me that she wasn't watching the movie ,she was hoping I would do(inaudible) ...I'm glad I did. She is so sexy to me ...GoD! ..... I never feel lonely around her... just.... we... of course have to be extremely discreet but we make it work for us. G- I am glad you decide to let her know your true feelings. You didn't want it to be like ....(muffled) M- (one sec) .....okay ...so ..yeah..thats why things have changed so much....(hold a sec) G- okay sure (inaudible) M- so I was saying, I don't feel self- conscious around her..(inaudible) (inaudible) ..like, she gets me .. and you know what...I know I get to her (giggles) now I can tell ..as hard as she (inaudible) to pretend I don't. G. .....hMmm..I M-She is so sexy to me ...GoD! ..... I never feel lonely around her... just.... we... of course have to be extremely discreet but we make it work for us. G- But I was wondering (inaudible) that. You have to keep up the charades?. M- I'm so nervous when I meet anyone in her family. I feel like they will know (inaudible) if they see us together. Her security (inaudible) (inaudible) loyal to her , I told her to hire people here ...americans...that are highly recommended so they have iron clad (inaudible) and work for her not her family. They can't ever say (inaudible) (inaudible) they won't either. G- No they won't know as long as you stay five feet away from each other..at all times! It must be so hard to meet each other outside of neverland. M- It is hard ..we are careful, if anything... they think she is working for me. We aren't affectionate around people unless they know..which is a (inaudible) (inaudible) (inaudible) . No (inaudible) knows who her family really is so its easier that way to (inaudible) . G- As long as its safe , you have a long time..years.... before (inaudible) (inaudible) to think about the future. (I left the clue in 4 timeline ppl :~P ) ````` (audio stopped start again) G- can I ask you something? M- absolutely..... (inaudible) G- This is none of my business...tell me mind my own business..... but you owe me after I told you about Scott...(laughs) ..Okay.. (giggles) ....ahhh... I really want to ask you (inaudible) this. Umm... sheesh don't get embarassed ..I know your not, but You are obviously past kissing. How are you not shy about her seeing (inaudible) ..you know... after everything you have told me. M- Oh my..hm ...I ..(whispers)she's gonna kill me if she finds out....,uh ( pause) okay,,,, , why do you ask me this stuff!!....(laughs) okay, I don't feel ashamed or shy with her because I..uh.... I feel she knows me inside so why not outside ,(inaudible) i'm not ashamed with her,she accepts me for me. She's another thing...she was very shy ,I (inaudible) told her close your eyes and I won't look.....of course I had to kind of look )(giggles) I hummed a melody while I undressed her slowly, she was nervous but she wanted me to, she's beautiful, (inaudible) I didn't want any secrets I just wanted to feel her against me. It was a beautiful feeling, really (inaudible)(inaudible) and (he makes a like SHHHHH noise) just b/t us okay? G- Look, don't worry its only b/t us. you can say anything (inaudible) , i wont judge you. you can tell what ever you want..its only me M- okay I believe you, well...well I (inaudible) her around and embraced her and I promised her , I said , (name) " if you want to be with me ,I will make it happen And if you want to keep it a secret...I promise you no one will ever know (inaudible)(inaudible) but I can't turn back now, I may be selfish but I don't want to stop" G- Oh my, what did she have to say? M- She didn't say anything. She kissed me (inaudible) ..we caressed each other, ..oh gosh....I get crazy remembering this (inaudible) ..Then she put her hand on my waist and she got down and (chuckles) I shouldn't say... (giggles) .. she just helped me undress...I shouldn't say... G- Michael I have told you so many things! M-.... (To be Continued next week) ( No Knees where mentioned so far..lol ) this part? When were these supposed to have been recorded? It must of been earlier on because he talks about a commercial,and he hasn't made a commercial for anything in a long while. if I remember correctly there was apart about him doing some cartoon advert. type of thing in the east. don't know for sure but could be that he is talking about. these conversations are very random. | |
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cdcgold said: i just read the funniest story EVER!!!!!
this fat man 
claims he is michaels secret lover and his proof? this picture where he is standing 2 people away from michael 
i don't feel its necessary to address this bull crap. but i just want to say if this dude "did it" with michael i doubt he would have lived through it cause his huge ass would have flattened michael like a pancake lols i bet hes a friend of klein | |
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Michael Jackson's Personal Artist Shared Pop King's Vision August 21 
Artist David Nordahl was at home painting in February 1988 when the phone rang at midnight. A voice said, "This is Michael Jackson." Yeah, riiiight, he thought. But he quickly realized the call was no prank. While visiting Steven Spielberg's office, Jackson had admired one of Nordahl's paintings of Army troops invading an Apache camp as a young corporal shielded two Indian children. Now the singer was reaching out to the painter. For art lessons. "He asked if I taught drawing and painting," says Nordahl, whose realist oils of 19th-century Apaches are highly prized. "I told him I didn't, but that I'd think about it. I was really busy." Their hour-long conversation sparked a close friendship and working partnership that led Nordahl to abandon renown in the art world for a cloistered vocation as Jackson's portraitist. From 1988 to 2005, Nordahl completed thousands of drawings and roughly a dozen epic commissions, seven of which were among 2,000 Jackson items in Julien's authorized auction, which the singer sued to stop last spring. Many canvases encapsulate Jackson's grandiose fantasies and fairy-tale worldview. In a massive triptych, he is crowned and knighted in royal robes. Along the sunlit path in Field of Dreams, he leads children of all nationalities (plus sister Janet, AIDS activist Ryan White and actor Macaulay Culkin). His firstborn son snoozes on an oversized golden throne in Prince, The Boy King. Nordahl, 68, became not only Jackson's favorite living artist (Michelangelo led the historic ranking) but a trusted adviser and confidant who designed Neverland carnival rides and joined family outings. He ducked the media for years, "because they wanted to talk about negative stuff, and I don't know anything bad about Michael," the soft-spoken Nordahl says, sitting with artist/wife Lori Peterson and frisky cat Scooter in a living room crowded with paintings by the couple. He's speaking now in hopes of brightening a picture darkened since Jackson's death June 25. "I always thought of him as normal," he says. "He's the most thoughtful, respectful person I've ever met. In 20 years, I never heard him raise his voice." Early days: Brainstorming Nordahl's Jackson period began after the singer invited him to the Denver stop of the Bad tour in March 1988. "I didn't know what to expect," Nordahl says. "He was sweet. We went to galleries, bookstores and a private showing of the King Tut exhibit. We sat around and laughed and talked and drew." Jackson demonstrated talent but was stretched too thin to pursue visual arts. Instead, the two began hatching ideas for Nordahl to paint. The artist conceived the inaugural work, Playmates for a Lonely Child, a 41-inch-square oil of Jackson in a sylvan storybook scene. Next Nordahl embarked on a far bolder statement, Field of Dreams, a 36-by-104-inch oil study for an unfinished work that would have measured 12 by 38 feet. He labored non-stop: large portraits, mythical tableaux, 10-foot charcoal drawings, a plaque on the Neverland gate. Nordahl billed Jackson in line with his earlier gallery rates, up to $150,000 for large pieces, and says he was always paid. His duties expanded to amusement park design after Jackson began developing the ranch north of Santa Barbara, Calif., and Nordahl juggled several projects while adapting to Jackson's enchanted lifestyle. At Neverland, the two tested rides and tended the exotic menagerie. They took trips to Disneyland and spent time at billionaire Ron Burkle's La Jolla, Calif., estate, where Jackson's insomnia often meant Nordahl was enlisted for wee-hour practical jokes and beachside chats. (He also was a victim of Jackson's notorious tricks, once finding his briefcase stuffed with bubblegum.) He discovered the unglamorous Jackson, who in the late '80s often drove by himself in a Chevy Blazer (and relieved himself in a bucket because he couldn't risk being mobbed at gas stations) and lived in a two-bedroom Los Angeles condo. "I expected a penthouse with maids," Nordahl says. "There was a grand piano pushed into the kitchen, a popcorn machine and a good sound system. The other furniture, you couldn't have gotten 50 bucks for it at a garage sale. Before the kids, Michael lived real simply." What fueled this bromance? "I grew up in a difficult home, and he did too," says Nordahl, whom Jackson thanks in liner notes for 1991's Dangerous and 1995's HIStory. "We had no playtime growing up. We're both fanatical about work. "There was a bond." Nordahl's youth troubled, too Born in Albert Lea, Minn., Nordahl left home at 12 and supported himself through high school by working on farms, pinstriping cars and selling his art. "I can't remember not drawing," he says. "I had an abusive, alcoholic father, and drawing is something that takes you out of the real world. I was always interested in cowboys and Indians. I sold drawings of the Lone Ranger to my classmates." He began specializing in Apaches after moving to Steamboat Springs, Colo., in 1977, and his detailed, meticulously researched depictions soon lured collectors. "His work had a lot of integrity, and he was one of those rare artists who was humble but extremely talented," says prominent Santa Fe art dealer Ray Dewey, who held lotteries to determine buyers of Nordahl's work because of high demand. "His technique took a long time, so he was not prolific. When he talked to me about leaving to paint for Michael Jackson, I had over 200 people on a waiting list for his work. It was an interesting decision on his part. "I think what Jackson saw in David was a complete artist," Dewey says. "He was a perfectionist. He choreographed everything. Jackson also may have seen his commitment to family. David primarily painted the Apache people's culture and lifeways, but he painted a lot of children, not just warriors. And he painted animals beautifully, especially horses." What Nordahl saw in Jackson was a wounded and misunderstood genius who felt spiritually obligated to help children. Though Jackson was acquitted in his 2005 child sexual abuse trial, it "broke his spirit," Nordahl says. "Michael would never molest a child. He always felt so bad for kids who were mistreated or sick. He spent so much time with critically ill kids. If a mother called about a dying child somewhere, he'd jump on a plane. "People talked about Neverland being his private amusement park. It was always meant for kids. The last time I was at the ranch, they put up a big Sony JumboTron across from a condo building for sick children, so if kids woke up at night, cartoons would be on." 'Michael was a real dad' Nordahl was bewildered that Jackson seemed to elicit more mockery than sympathy. "People accused him of trying to be white, which is ridiculous," he says. "When I first met him, his vitiligo (a skin disorder that causes pigmentation loss) had gone to the right side of his face and down his neck. Most of his right hand was white. Stark white patches. He used makeup because he had to. Without it, he was speckled all over." Nordahl never witnessed drug use by Jackson but was keenly aware of pain problems that lingered after the star's hair caught fire on a Pepsi ad soundstage. "When they were trying to repair that burned spot, he had a balloon under his scalp that was inflated," Nordahl says. "He let me feel it. It was a huge mound. As the skin got stretched, they cut it out and stitched the scalp. He was in excruciating pain." Jackson seemed an unlikely addict, Nordahl says, noting his avoidance of cigarettes, alcohol, soft drinks and sugar. "He was mostly a vegetarian," he says. "When he was on tour, the cooks would make him eat fish and sometimes chicken. He loved little chicken wings. He always drank water. I shared wine with him only twice, once with (ex-wife) Lisa Marie (Presley) and once at Ron Burkle's house. Michael had one glass." The clearest evidence of Jackson's responsible nature emerged in his parenting of Prince, Paris and Blanket. "Michael was a real dad, not a Hollywood dad," he says. "He'd get up at night to feed them bottles. He'd change them, bathe them, everything a mother does. "All the time I spent with those kids, I never heard them beg for anything or throw a fit. I never heard them cry. They were so well-adjusted." Jackson took pains not to spoil his children, says Nordahl, recalling a modest eighth birthday party in L.A. for Prince. (Jackson's mother, Katherine, and sister Rebbie came over but skipped the festivities because of their Jehovah's Witness beliefs, he says.) "I was curious to see what Prince was going to get," Nordahl says. "I figured it would be pretty extravagant, but he didn't get one thing that cost over $2. He got Play-Doh, little action figures, things we'd call stocking stuffers. "The kids were not allowed to watch TV or DVDs or play video games" except through points earned by their schoolwork. "Nothing was given to them. Michael said, 'I want them to grow up as close to normal as possible.' Those kids were so respectful and courteous, just sweet." Surprise visit to Santa Fe Nordahl grew close to all three. Typically, the artist spent time with the Jackson brood on the West Coast. But over Memorial Day weekend in 2004, the star and his tykes surprised Nordahl by visiting Santa Fe via Jackson's plush private bus (with a 60-inch plasma TV). Jackson suggested a movie outing. "I thought we were going to a screening room," Nordahl says. "His driver pulled into DeVargas Mall. He was friends with (Roland Emmerich), the director of The Day After Tomorrow, and it was opening weekend. The mall was jammed, and there was no place to park. I took the kids, got the tickets and popcorn, and we went in. Michael came in after the lights went down. "The lights came up, and nobody noticed him. He had on a baseball cap and these Chinese silk pajamas. The kids had no masks on. Any of those rags would have paid $100,000 for that picture." Paintings' future unclear He last saw Jackson in 2005, when the singer moved to Bahrain and vowed never again to live on U.S. soil. Accustomed to lulls when Jackson was overseas or overextended, Nordahl resumed painting Apaches and presumed he'd be summoned once Jackson found a new home and showcase for his treasures. The fate of Nordahl's Jackson paintings is in limbo, though they may be part of a touring exhibition of the singer's memorabilia proposed by the estate administrators. "I would like to see them in a Michael Jackson museum," Nordahl says. "That was always Michael's goal. He was very self-effacing, but he understood he was a music icon." Nordahl, represented by Settlers West Galleries in Tucson and Sherwoods Spirit of America in Santa Fe, has returned to painting Apaches and other subjects. Whether his extended hiatus from the public eye damaged his authority or reputation "is difficult to gauge," Dewey says. "I don't know if it furthered his career. An artist who does commissions for one patron often is just isolated unless the patron publishes or exhibits the work. David's always been independent, and he's never sought publicity." And how many patrons are the King of Pop? "We got to be such good friends that I forgot who I was hanging out with," Nordahl says. "Then he'd break into these dance moves, quick as lightning, and it would dawn on me: He's the best entertainer in the world." | |
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Thanks for the Nordahl interview.
 
Pure perfection. 
Cute. [Edited 8/21/09 1:28am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said:
Pure perfection.  Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here?? | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: dag said:
Pure perfection. Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??OMG that is so true. He was stunning beyond belief here. When was this taken? Between off the wall and thriller? Have you had your + signs today? | |
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newpowerhippies said: mynameisnotsusan said: Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??OMG that is so true. He was stunning beyond belief here. When was this taken? Between off the wall and thriller? "Off The Wall"/"Triumph" era [Edited 8/21/09 3:13am] | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: dag said:
Pure perfection. Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??AGREED. | |
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tangerine7 said: M- She didn't say anything. She kissed me (inaudible) ..we caressed each other, ..oh gosh....I get crazy remembering this (inaudible) ..Then she put her hand on my waist and she got down and (chuckles) I shouldn't say... (giggles) .. she just helped me undress...I shouldn't say... this shit is like the rock N roll version of Sex and the city  | |
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http://today.msnbc.msn.co...2#32505162
Mark Lester is at it again. I don't get how giving sperm is supposed to be a gift. | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??Living with vitiligo at the apex of his career must have been psychologically draining. I wish he had started a research foundation to raise awareness about the skin disorder, which would've dispelled misconceptions, refuted rumors and provided help for its sufferers. [Edited 8/21/09 8:33am] | |
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^Speaking of which...someone from The Today Show gives theories on the changes of Michael's appearance. It's interesting.
http://today.msnbc.msn.co...2#32459796 | |
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Copycat said: mynameisnotsusan said: Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??Living with vitiligo at the apex of his career must have been psychologically draining. I wish he had started a research foundation to raise awareness about the skin disorder, which would've dispelled misconceptions, refuted rumors and provided help for its sufferers. [Edited 8/21/09 8:33am] True but MJ never viewed things like we did.I rememer reading that he regretted talking about his skin condition on Oprah in 93. Supposedly he said his career is ruined and that he would be the butt of everybody's jokes. | |
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He also should have revealed the lupus. The video I posted explains why he had tattooed eyeliner and eyebrows. & I forget which one of the diseases is why he had to wear heavy makeup. But idk people still wouldn't have believed him imo. Because when he did come out with it people were like oh that is just an excuse for him to turn "white." & I don't think they really believed it. But regular skin bleaching creams don't turn the skin the white. | |
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LightOfArt said: Copycat said: Living with vitiligo at the apex of his career must have been psychologically draining. I wish he had started a research foundation to raise awareness about the skin disorder, which would've dispelled misconceptions, refuted rumors and provided help for its sufferers. [Edited 8/21/09 8:33am] True but MJ never viewed things like we did.I rememer reading that he regretted talking about his skin condition on Oprah in 93. Supposedly he said his career is ruined and that he would be the butt of everybody's jokes. he didnt realise that he was already being joked about? did he think that his appearnce would go under the public radar?. i agree that bringing awareness to the disorder woul have helped. i've nrver heard people scoffing at michael j. fox as he increasingly lost control of his muscle function.... LOVE HARD. | |
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Copycat said: mynameisnotsusan said: Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??Living with vitiligo at the apex of his career must have been psychologically draining. I wish he had started a research foundation to raise awareness about the skin disorder, which would've dispelled misconceptions, refuted rumors and provided help for its sufferers. [Edited 8/21/09 8:33am] I agree. It would've been real great for MJ to further talk about how this disease affects people. | |
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Mike a woman lover..hmm... "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said:
[Edited 8/21/09 1:28am] I´ve just noticed you can clearly see vitiligo in this picture. Have you noticed? Look at his ear. [Edited 8/21/09 10:11am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: dag said:
[Edited 8/21/09 1:28am] I´ve just noticed you can clearly see vitiligo in this picture. Have you noticed? Look at his ear. [Edited 8/21/09 10:11am] You won't see those pictures in the media. They won't talk about that in the news. The "bleaching" stuff is more popular, more controversial. You won't see them do side by side comparisons of his youngest son and show how similar he looks to his father. They won't talk about how when the second allegations came out, when that documentary aired that showed him holding the kid's hand... all the alleged abuse occured after that documentary aired (Which makes no sense at all... he waited until he was being investigated and talked about in the news to do anything  ???)
You won't hear how the father of the first accuser wanted to make movies and how he realized his wish after the settlement (I believe we call that a motive). Even if Jackson was guilty (I doubt it), why doesn't the media report balanced facts instead of portraying a one-sided, biased side? Mini-rant there, but really, many people wouldn't know any of this stuff if it wasn't for the internet. Shouldn't the news have been reporting this? | |
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Superstition said: dag said: I´ve just noticed you can clearly see vitiligo in this picture. Have you noticed? Look at his ear. [Edited 8/21/09 10:11am] You won't see those pictures in the media. They won't talk about that in the news. The "bleaching" stuff is more popular, more controversial. You won't see them do side by side comparisons of his youngest son and show how similar he looks to his father. They won't talk about how when the second allegations came out, when that documentary aired that showed him holding the kid's hand... all the alleged abuse occured after that documentary aired (Which makes no sense at all... he waited until he was being investigated and talked about in the news to do anything ???)
You won't hear how the father of the first accuser wanted to make movies and how he realized his wish after the settlement (I believe we call that a motive). Even if Jackson was guilty (I doubt it), why doesn't the media report balanced facts instead of portraying a one-sided, biased side? Mini-rant there, but really, many people wouldn't know any of this stuff if it wasn't for the internet. Shouldn't the news have been reporting this? "It's because Michael Jackson was black and the white man hates blacks." | |
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Superstition said: dag said: I´ve just noticed you can clearly see vitiligo in this picture. Have you noticed? Look at his ear. [Edited 8/21/09 10:11am] You won't see those pictures in the media. They won't talk about that in the news. The "bleaching" stuff is more popular, more controversial. You won't see them do side by side comparisons of his youngest son and show how similar he looks to his father. They won't talk about how when the second allegations came out, when that documentary aired that showed him holding the kid's hand... all the alleged abuse occured after that documentary aired (Which makes no sense at all... he waited until he was being investigated and talked about in the news to do anything ???)
You won't hear how the father of the first accuser wanted to make movies and how he realized his wish after the settlement (I believe we call that a motive). Even if Jackson was guilty (I doubt it), why doesn't the media report balanced facts instead of portraying a one-sided, biased side? Mini-rant there, but really, many people wouldn't know any of this stuff if it wasn't for the internet. Shouldn't the news have been reporting this? That´s true. I was recently speaking to a friend of mine whom I got to know just recently and we spoke for the first time about him. She didn´t know I was a fan and she watched the memorial and than we spoke about it and she said something "but he really did f*** up making himself white". When I told her about vitiligo, showed her articles and pictures, she was like "and why MJ didn´t say he was ill?" I was like, he did, many times. The media just won´t tell you about it. She sat there, couldn´t believe it. I think she got one of her first lessons on media.
Anyway, remember Bashit interview where Mike said that when Prince was born he thought of his grandfather cause they had the same shape of head? Well someone found pictures and they really do look alike to me. What do you think?    [Edited 8/21/09 11:27am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Superstition said: Shouldn't the news have been reporting this? Of course, but they would rather have history remember him as a freakish song and dance man who harbored a deep self-hatred of his own Blackness. [Edited 8/21/09 11:31am] | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: dag said:
Pure perfection. Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??See this is what I keep thinking,I don't really like to look at pictures of him in his later life,because that is not the Michael I relate with. He was beautiful already,he did'nt need all those surgeries. I wonder if anyone ever told him that? Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: mynameisnotsusan said: Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??See this is what I keep thinking,I don't really like to look at pictures of him in his later life,because that is not the Michael I relate with. He was beautiful already,he did'nt need all those surgeries. I wonder if anyone ever told him that? What, that he was handsome the way he was? | |
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graecophilos said: Superstition said: You won't see those pictures in the media. They won't talk about that in the news. The "bleaching" stuff is more popular, more controversial. You won't see them do side by side comparisons of his youngest son and show how similar he looks to his father. They won't talk about how when the second allegations came out, when that documentary aired that showed him holding the kid's hand... all the alleged abuse occured after that documentary aired (Which makes no sense at all... he waited until he was being investigated and talked about in the news to do anything ???)
You won't hear how the father of the first accuser wanted to make movies and how he realized his wish after the settlement (I believe we call that a motive). Even if Jackson was guilty (I doubt it), why doesn't the media report balanced facts instead of portraying a one-sided, biased side? Mini-rant there, but really, many people wouldn't know any of this stuff if it wasn't for the internet. Shouldn't the news have been reporting this? "It's because Michael Jackson was black and the white man hates blacks." You can't lump everyone of one race together like that. I am white,and I have never had nor ever will feel any hatred toward black people,and there are alot of other white people that feel the same. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Timmy84 said: EmeraldSkies said: See this is what I keep thinking,I don't really like to look at pictures of him in his later life,because that is not the Michael I relate with. He was beautiful already,he did'nt need all those surgeries. I wonder if anyone ever told him that? What, that he was handsome the way he was? Yes. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: mynameisnotsusan said: Michael, why couldn't you see how gorgeous you were here??See this is what I keep thinking,I don't really like to look at pictures of him in his later life,because that is not the Michael I relate with. He was beautiful already,he did'nt need all those surgeries. I wonder if anyone ever told him that? Of course, he didn´t need the surgery, but what can you do? He had his insecurities and maybe he wouldn´t look good with that wide nose white either. I think someone (can´t remember who it was) said that they discussed the surgeries with Mike and that he admitted that they didn´t turn out the way he wanted to, but I don´t care, really, or I do, but not to the point where it would effect my love for him. I can see his beauty in all eras. He had his bad days, of course. He´s just Mike and I love him. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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EmeraldSkies said: graecophilos said: "It's because Michael Jackson was black and the white man hates blacks." You can't lump everyone of one race together like that. I am white,and I have never had nor ever will feel any hatred toward black people,and there are alot of other white people that feel the same. I have this quote as one of my profile titles in a MJ board: "Racism is overrated". | |
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