Timmy84 said: dag said: That was my favourite moment as well. Loved it. That was cool. I was kinda underwhelmed after looking at it. Even with the J5 medley, something seemed off about MJ that night. He looked tired and pissed off LOL. I do still find the J5 part interesting though. Just to see him with his brothers that last time is quite touching. Anyone know if Mike actually planned to tour "invincible"? I heared he was, but not America (again LOL), which got Sony USA pissed off and was one of the reasons why they foolishly cancelled all promotional singles post "YRMW". Anyone? | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
thesexofit said: Timmy84 said: That was cool. I was kinda underwhelmed after looking at it. Even with the J5 medley, something seemed off about MJ that night. He looked tired and pissed off LOL. I do still find the J5 part interesting though. Just to see him with his brothers that last time is quite touching. Anyone know if Mike actually planned to tour "invincible"? I heared he was, but not America (again LOL), which got Sony USA pissed off and was one of the reasons why they foolishly cancelled all promotional singles post "YRMW". Anyone? There was a hint he would tour. Then again, he told Cory Rooney that he DIDN'T wanna tour ever again and this was after Invincible was released. He told him he'll release more albums but he didn't wanna tour anymore. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Timmy84 said: babybugz said: That night honestly was the first time me knowing who he was like I said before my mom always had me grow up on janet the when I got older I started getting into him I was 14 when that MSG thing aired You became a fan at a weird time, lol. I've noticed lots of new fans during this, the aftermath (Sony Sucks, LWMJ), the trial, the tour and even in death. I know I liked him when nobody else did it's really odd | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
babybugz said: Timmy84 said: You became a fan at a weird time, lol. I've noticed lots of new fans during this, the aftermath (Sony Sucks, LWMJ), the trial, the tour and even in death. I know I liked him when nobody else did it's really odd Yeah, then again, that's cool because if you're interested, nothing anyone says can stop you from being interested. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Timmy84 said: babybugz said: I know I liked him when nobody else did it's really odd Yeah, then again, that's cool because if you're interested, nothing anyone says can stop you from being interested. That's true . i'm glad I enjoyed him when he was alive instead of jumping on board when he died lol | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
trueiopian said: kibbles said: no, mj didn't kill himself. from all indications, he was administered a drug by dr. murray which required constant monitoring of the patient and it appears that the doctor didn't do that. yes, mj asked the doctor to administer the drug, *with the understanding that he would be monitored as there is no indication that mj was using the drug to get high, but to sleep*, and the doctor agreed to monitor him, then he didn't uphold his obligation. when i visit my doctor, and i allow them to stick needles, stick other things in me, prescribe meds, i am giving them my complicity with the understanding that they are not going to do anything to kill me. whether or not mj was taking other drugs, abusing prescription drugs as others have said he was, is really a side issue. he may have had other drugs in his system, he may not have. it isn't the other drugs that killed him; it was the drug that dr. murray administered that killed him. if a drunk man is walking down the street and a car hits him, do you say he died of alcoholism? no, he may have been inebriated but the person who hit him is the one who may be charged with manslaughter. [Edited 8/18/09 12:29pm] Yea,yea,yea MJ allowed these yes-men around him. He's not as naive as people make him out to be He basically was playing Russian Roulette with his life. I'm sure he knew how dangerous Diprivan is. i never said mj was naive, did i? i said dr. murray was negligent in his duties to his patient. you see murray as being little more than a drug pusher. we arrest drug dealers everyday, don't we? if it was a 'yea, yea, yea' situation, dr. murray wouldn't have anything to worry about, would he? he could just blame mj for being a junkie and that would be the end of it. but that's not the case, is it? as it is, dr. murray will be lucky if he only has his medical license revoked. more than likely, though, he's looking a criminal charges . | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Yeah, then again, that's cool because if you're interested, nothing anyone says can stop you from being interested. That's true . i'm glad I enjoyed him when he was alive instead of jumping on board when he died lol Yeah now that would be weird. It ain't like someone who wasn't even around when he died and then became a fan (like I did for Marvin and Mary Wells, lol). But to become a fan as SOON as someone dies like last week is weird to me, lol. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Timmy84 said: babybugz said: That's true . i'm glad I enjoyed him when he was alive instead of jumping on board when he died lol Yeah now that would be weird. It ain't like someone who wasn't even around when he died and then became a fan (like I did for Marvin and Mary Wells, lol). But to become a fan as SOON as someone dies like last week is weird to me, lol. It really is weird if you didn't care when he was alive why care now lol it's nice that people are buying his records again but it would have been nice if you did when he was here lol sadly he can't see this . | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
mookie said: Jackson Family May Be Entertaining Big Bucks TV Offer
http://showbiz411.blogs.t...c-ae-sony/ By: Roger Friedman // Tuesday August 18, 2009 // Music, Uncategorized The winds of commerce are blowing over the Jackson family’s Hayvenhurst home. Sources have been telling me for a couple of weeks that the Jacksons—ever productive in making money since Michael died on June 25th—are saying that ABC has made the family an offer it probably wouldn’t refuse: a stunning $25 million to turn over all their home movies, let the whole clan be interviewed exclusively by either Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer, and let the public see Michael’s children be interviewed. this is so sad. i pray this isn't true. as much as i don't like the crazy dr. klein, he may be on to something here about not wanting these kids with the jacksons. mj went out of his way to protect his children from these lowlife vultures in the press who preyed upon him. now his family is offering up them up as sacrificial lambs for profit. sick, sick, sick. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I can't believe I'm saying this.
But I'm kind of starting to feel a little sorry for Murray. Dude has to deal with the fact that MJ died in his hands for the rest of his life. What a miserable feeling that must be. [Edited 8/18/09 17:39pm] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Timmy84 said: thesexofit said: He looked tired and pissed off LOL. I do still find the J5 part interesting though. Just to see him with his brothers that last time is quite touching. Anyone know if Mike actually planned to tour "invincible"? I heared he was, but not America (again LOL), which got Sony USA pissed off and was one of the reasons why they foolishly cancelled all promotional singles post "YRMW". Anyone? There was a hint he would tour. Then again, he told Cory Rooney that he DIDN'T wanna tour ever again and this was after Invincible was released. He told him he'll release more albums but he didn't wanna tour anymore. Really? I think the tour woulda been as big as "HIStory" outside the US. Oh well.... | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
kibbles said: mookie said: Jackson Family May Be Entertaining Big Bucks TV Offer
http://showbiz411.blogs.t...c-ae-sony/ By: Roger Friedman // Tuesday August 18, 2009 // Music, Uncategorized The winds of commerce are blowing over the Jackson family’s Hayvenhurst home. Sources have been telling me for a couple of weeks that the Jacksons—ever productive in making money since Michael died on June 25th—are saying that ABC has made the family an offer it probably wouldn’t refuse: a stunning $25 million to turn over all their home movies, let the whole clan be interviewed exclusively by either Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer, and let the public see Michael’s children be interviewed. this is so sad. i pray this isn't true. as much as i don't like the crazy dr. klein, he may be on to something here about not wanting these kids with the jacksons. mj went out of his way to protect his children from these lowlife vultures in the press who preyed upon him. now his family is offering up them up as sacrificial lambs for profit. sick, sick, sick. I feel bad for those kids when they get older their old uncles(jermaine ) going to be asking them for money all the time lol | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
babybugz said: Timmy84 said: You became a fan at a weird time, lol. I've noticed lots of new fans during this, the aftermath (Sony Sucks, LWMJ), the trial, the tour and even in death. I know I liked him when nobody else did it's really odd That's been my whole life until now. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
babybugz said: I feel bad for those kids when they get older their old uncles(jermaine ) going to be asking them for money all the time lol You ought to be ashamed of yourself for saying that...funny as hell! And a likely scenario. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Copycat said: babybugz said: I feel bad for those kids when they get older their old uncles(jermaine ) going to be asking them for money all the time lol You ought to be ashamed of yourself for saying that...funny as hell! And a likely scenario. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
YOu all remember the just lost it video. Here is a interview of eminem talking about it. this is back in 2004 i think.
*EMINEM* "i never meant to intentionally diss or bash anybody" "it was just pure jokes" *SWAY* "but you clearly made michael jackson upset" *EMINEM* "and i apologize for that" "he's.....(sway cut's him off) (sway look's shocked to hear eminem say sry) *SWAY* "but i think what the people wanna know is why are you apologizing" "when you have had beef's in the past with ja rule and benzino and made diss tracks about them" "where is your diss track about mj" *EMINEM* "i can't diss someone i grew up listening to" "i have to much respect for him" "i mean i joke with talking about his nose" "but when it comes to talent-wise there's too much respect that i have for him" "i talk all the time in my songs about being chased by the papparazzi and people making fun of me cuz they don't understand who i really am" "and if there's anybody who has had it worse than me it's michael jackson" "so that's one of the main reason's i didn't come back with a diss song against michael jackson" "i mean i mention the neverland ranch a few times on encore but i don't take it too far" "plus, he's the biggest star in the planet" "he's more famous than the president" "you think of michael jackson first, before you think of the president" "that's how famous he is" "and plus he has like (a-cajelion) fans around the world" *SWAY* "now let me ask u.....(em cuts sway off) *EMINEM* "AND THEY STICK BY HIM!!!!!" "through all the sh*t that he's been through" "that's a true artist" *and those are true fans* *SWAY* "but, did you ever like michael jackson" *EMINEM* "michael jackson was one of my idols" *SWAY* "was" *EMINEM* "well, he still is" "i mean, i like his music" "i like his dancing" "but my i love his attitude" "he doesn't give a damn what people think about him" "i respect and admire any person who has that kinda attitude" "unfortionitly i don't have that attitude, so the minute someone criticizes me or says something negative about me i take my anger out on them, that's just the way i am" *SWAY* "so your a fan of michael jackson" *EMINEM* "yea" *SWAY* "i can't picture you listening to michael jackson i n your room going (hee-hee) (sway starts immetading michael) (eminem starts laughing) *EMINEM* "na, seriously when thriller came out" "i was the first one on my block who coped the album" *SWAY* "but don't you think the guy is a little bizzare" *EMINEM* "not really" "you have to understand it from another artist's postion we are always constantly trying to stay in the spotlight it's called publicity" "i mean the plastic surgury mask that he wears, the kids wearing the mask so u can't see there face for protection" "THIS GUY IS A FREAKIN' GENIUS" "and i adolize the way he acts, and performs" "and that's that" [Edited 8/18/09 17:41pm] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Anyone look at Murray's defense team. I remember seeing that Alford guy speaking out too a few days after MJ died to the morning shows.
Their website http://www.houstoncrimina...index.html And notice how the youtube user's name who posted Murray's video, is the actual name of the law firm. houstoncriminallaw So his lawyers told him to post that video. [Edited 8/18/09 18:23pm] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
JACKSON STILL KING OF AUSTRALIAN CHARTS
For the 7th consecutive week Michael Jackson holds onto the Number 1 position on the Australian Aria Charts with The Essential Michael Jackson. Jackson still has 5 albums in the top 20. source: http://www.ariacharts.com...chart=1G50 "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
suga10 said: Murray speaks for the first time. A**hole.
Supporters? Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
EmeraldSkies said: suga10 said: Murray speaks for the first time. A**hole.
Supporters? TMZ mentioned about them, I guess these are the people he's referring too http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...-patients/ Dr. Conrad Murray Has Patients
Posted Aug 18th 2009 4:00PM by TMZ Staff Dr. Conrad Murray may be on the hotseat with the LAPD over Michael Jackson's death, but that's not going to cramp his style when it comes to proving to the world he's a beloved MD. In addition to his "thank you" video, Dr. Murray posted contact info for 14 of his patients who would give testimonials. They wouldn't talk Propofol, but were more than eager to give props to the good doc. Here are a few highlights: Rev. Floyd Williams: "If Murray wasn't black, none of this would be happening. It's the media hype to show that black folks are still the minority" Eliza Robertson: "If Katherine [Jackson] is that concerned she should have stopped all of the painkillers [Michael] was taking before. I would have tried to get him on a better road." "[Dr. Murray] would leave Las Vegas and come take care of me in my home [in Houston], and pay me visits, and give me checkups. I don't believe that Murray would have given or prescribed MJ anything he didn't ask for." Ben Mask: "When Dr. Murray moved his office into my neighborhood there wasn't a lot of money out here just a lot of old people living off checks. When he came out here he was behind on his bills and he needed the money. If I was in his shoes I would have taken the money too. It was an offer he couldn't refuse. It could be a set up ... You just never know, things are so crooked." Robert "Bobby" Day: "He was the type of doctor that people would want to hug on their way out. He never rushed people and he was wonderful with following up. Everyone adored him." [Edited 8/18/09 20:56pm] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
suga10 said:[quote] EmeraldSkies said: TMZ mentioned about them, I guess these are the people he's referring too http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...-patients/ Dr. Conrad Murray Has Patients
Posted Aug 18th 2009 4:00PM by TMZ Staff Dr. Conrad Murray may be on the hotseat with the LAPD over Michael Jackson's death, but that's not going to cramp his style when it comes to proving to the world he's a beloved MD. In addition to his "thank you" video, Dr. Murray posted contact info for 14 of his patients who would give testimonials. They wouldn't talk Propofol, but were more than eager to give props to the good doc. Here are a few highlights: Rev. Floyd Williams: "If Murray wasn't black, none of this would be happening. It's the media hype to show that black folks are still the minority" Eliza Robertson: "If Katherine [Jackson] is that concerned she should have stopped all of the painkillers [Michael] was taking before. I would have tried to get him on a better road." "[Dr. Murray] would leave Las Vegas and come take care of me in my home [in Houston], and pay me visits, and give me checkups. I don't believe that Murray would have given or prescribed MJ anything he didn't ask for." Ben Mask: "When Dr. Murray moved his office into my neighborhood there wasn't a lot of money out here just a lot of old people living off checks. When he came out here he was behind on his bills and he needed the money. If I was in his shoes I would have taken the money too. It was an offer he couldn't refuse. It could be a set up ... You just never know, things are so crooked." Robert "Bobby" Day: "He was the type of doctor that people would want to hug on their way out. He never rushed people and he was wonderful with following up. Everyone adored him." [Edited 8/18/09 20:56pm] Just because he asked for it,doesn't mean that the doctor should just whip out his prescription pad,and write it up. Plus he did'nt just get it for him,he INJECTED it into him! People making it sound like just because a patient asks for something that the doctor should just automatically pony it up. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Michael & Shanice
| |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
voyevoda said: YOu all remember the just lost it video. Here is a interview of eminem talking about it. this is back in 2004 i think.
*EMINEM* "i never meant to intentionally diss or bash anybody" "it was just pure jokes" *SWAY* "but you clearly made michael jackson upset" *EMINEM* "and i apologize for that" "he's.....(sway cut's him off) (sway look's shocked to hear eminem say sry) *SWAY* "but i think what the people wanna know is why are you apologizing" "when you have had beef's in the past with ja rule and benzino and made diss tracks about them" "where is your diss track about mj" *EMINEM* "i can't diss someone i grew up listening to" "i have to much respect for him" "i mean i joke with talking about his nose" "but when it comes to talent-wise there's too much respect that i have for him" "i talk all the time in my songs about being chased by the papparazzi and people making fun of me cuz they don't understand who i really am" "and if there's anybody who has had it worse than me it's michael jackson" "so that's one of the main reason's i didn't come back with a diss song against michael jackson" "i mean i mention the neverland ranch a few times on encore but i don't take it too far" "plus, he's the biggest star in the planet" "he's more famous than the president" "you think of michael jackson first, before you think of the president" "that's how famous he is" "and plus he has like (a-cajelion) fans around the world" *SWAY* "now let me ask u.....(em cuts sway off) *EMINEM* "AND THEY STICK BY HIM!!!!!" "through all the sh*t that he's been through" "that's a true artist" *and those are true fans* *SWAY* "but, did you ever like michael jackson" *EMINEM* "michael jackson was one of my idols" *SWAY* "was" *EMINEM* "well, he still is" "i mean, i like his music" "i like his dancing" "but my i love his attitude" "he doesn't give a damn what people think about him" "i respect and admire any person who has that kinda attitude" "unfortionitly i don't have that attitude, so the minute someone criticizes me or says something negative about me i take my anger out on them, that's just the way i am" *SWAY* "so your a fan of michael jackson" *EMINEM* "yea" *SWAY* "i can't picture you listening to michael jackson i n your room going (hee-hee) (sway starts immetading michael) (eminem starts laughing) *EMINEM* "na, seriously when thriller came out" "i was the first one on my block who coped the album" *SWAY* "but don't you think the guy is a little bizzare" *EMINEM* "not really" "you have to understand it from another artist's postion we are always constantly trying to stay in the spotlight it's called publicity" "i mean the plastic surgury mask that he wears, the kids wearing the mask so u can't see there face for protection" "THIS GUY IS A FREAKIN' GENIUS" "and i adolize the way he acts, and performs" "and that's that" [Edited 8/18/09 17:41pm] Is this for real? I´ve never read it. If this is true, than I don´t get his logic at all. How can you make such a disgusting video about someone you respect? Didn´t he know that young kids admiring him are going to regard that as him prompting them to hate MJ. Is that how one shows a respect? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
kibbles said: mookie said: Jackson Family May Be Entertaining Big Bucks TV Offer
http://showbiz411.blogs.t...c-ae-sony/ By: Roger Friedman // Tuesday August 18, 2009 // Music, Uncategorized The winds of commerce are blowing over the Jackson family’s Hayvenhurst home. Sources have been telling me for a couple of weeks that the Jacksons—ever productive in making money since Michael died on June 25th—are saying that ABC has made the family an offer it probably wouldn’t refuse: a stunning $25 million to turn over all their home movies, let the whole clan be interviewed exclusively by either Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer, and let the public see Michael’s children be interviewed. this is so sad. i pray this isn't true. as much as i don't like the crazy dr. klein, he may be on to something here about not wanting these kids with the jacksons. mj went out of his way to protect his children from these lowlife vultures in the press who preyed upon him. now his family is offering up them up as sacrificial lambs for profit. sick, sick, sick. Let´s not get heated up over stupid articles. Let´s remember that 90% of what has been reported has never happened. Let´s get heated up once things actually happen. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
"Smooth Criminal" demo?
| |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
ViintageJunkiie said: "Smooth Criminal" demo?
The audio is weird, but the pictures are hot. If anyone has them, please post them. [Edited 8/19/09 1:53am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
This is really funny [Edited 8/19/09 6:58am] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
ViintageJunkiie said: "Smooth Criminal" demo?
nah that's fake "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Source: Michael Jackson's Doctor to Be Charged With Manslaughter
Michael Jackson’s personal physician will be charged with manslaughter within the next two weeks, a law enforcement source told FOXNews.com. The source initially said Dr. Conrad Murray could be arrested as soon as next Wednesday — but investigators have decided to execute one more search warrant, likely at a Los Angeles pharmacy, next week in an attempt to gather more evidence against him. The arrest is now expected the following week. Murray isn’t the only doctor who faces criminal charges in connection with Jackson's death on June 25. A law enforcement source told FOXNews.com that Jackson’s longtime dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein, will be hit with charges related to medical malpractice. Investigators are still building their case against Klein, and he will not be arrested for at least another two weeks, the source said. The Los Angeles District Attorney’s office is currently in talks with investigators about whether they will offer Murray the option of surrendering in Los Angeles, or if he will be arrested in Houston, where he is currently staying. Investigators initially had hoped to charge Murray with a more serious crime than manslaughter — a defendant may be charged with second degree murder in California without the presence of a motive — but prosecutors are concerned that a jury will be unlikely to convict without one, sources said. Unless a "smoking gun" is found in next week’s search, Murray will be charged with manslaughter. Law enforcement sources previously told FOXNews.com that Murray admitted he gave the King of Pop the intravenous anesthetic propofol to help him sleep just hours before his death — and that propofol was at least a contributing factor in the 50-year-old entertainer's death. Murray posted a video on YouTube Tuesday that his legal team said was intended to be seen by his friends and patients. The video, which was Murray’s idea, was shot last Wednesday at a Houston residence, a spokeswoman for his attorneys said. Sirius Video, a Houston production company, was hired to film the cardiologist's first public words since Jackson’s death. But a company spokeswoman would not say who bankrolled the video. Murray is reportedly broke; his latest money troubles involve possible eviction from his Las Vegas home. In the one- minute video, a bedraggled and teary-eyed Murray thanked his friends and supporters and said he has been unable to check his e-mail or return phone calls due to death threats. “I want to thank all of my patients and friends who have sent such kind e-mails, letters and messages to let me know of your support and prayers for me and my family," Murray said. "Because of all that is going on I’m afraid to return phone calls or use my e-mail. Therefore I recorded this video to let all of you know that I have been receiving your messages. I have not been able to thank you personally, which you know is not normal for me. “Your messages give me strength and courage and keep me going. They mean the world to me. “Please don’t worry. As long as I keep God in my heart and you in my life, I will be fine. I have done all I could do. I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail.” A spokeswoman for Murray’s legal team said the video was simply Murray’s way of thanking his supporters, and that the doctor’s friends and supporters who had provided contact information to the attorneys received an e-mail with the link to the YouTube video yesterday. But others said the video was Murray’s "last testament" — a transparent attempt to garner sympathy and influence a jury pool. “This was a total PR stunt,” said former Broward County prosecutor Kenneth Padowitz. “I think what they’re trying to do is humanize him, trying to make him seem like this is somebody that maybe you could know and this is not a bad guy—that’s what they’re trying to do,” Padowitz said. “And for that limited purpose, it probably was effective…. “Is it a transparent attempt to get feelings in his favor? Yeah. It’s a gimmick.” Padowitz said the video was certainly intended for widespread viewing, despite what Murray’s legal team says. And having his only statement come in a video format allowed for total control over what he said. “They did it this way so there could be no questioning by a reporter, no cross examination by anyone, or anyone asking a question he could not answer," Padowitz said. "They just basically put out a PR piece.” http://www.foxnews.com/st...40,00.html Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Does anyone know where I can find that picture of little Michael holding a coke bottle? I think someone posted it on one of the other threads,but some of the pcitures are now missing,and I can't find it. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |