you have the nurse claiming not to have seen anything that would indicate drug addiction. tom meseareau says the same thing, that four years ago at the trial he saw nothing, but then you have chopra saying mj was asking him for oxycontin around the same time. then the competing versions of the facts from various family members. it's all so confusing. i guess the autopsy will tell the tale.
if murray is claiming 'ignorance' about mj's unusual problems, it just makes it all the worse for him. even the chef noticed that mj had debilitated in the two months from the time she left his employ until her return. how could a doctor not notice, or have no idea, and more importantly for his defense, apparently not care? how could you be giving a 'patient' who was clearly not well anything? someone with unusual problems and you're going to compound the problems? even if he doesn't go to jail, or even to trial, he can kiss his medical license good-bye. he'll barely be able to get a job at denny's by the time this is over. | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Plus the more that ONE picture of Murray keeps showing on their website, the more I think they're playing PSYCHO music with this dude. "I'm gonna give you propofol and leave you for a phone call, where's the phone? " TMZ ain't bullshitting, I know what the fuck they doing. This is the biggest circus since the trial! LOL he only has one pic , the infamous picture and everything about michael is a circus it's like he's more exciting in death smh Hold on, lemme find the OTHER Murray pic: Now see, I'm gonna speak like a Queer Eye for the Straight Guy savant, but see, no bloodshot eyes, his forehead ain't greasy, and he ain't smilin' like Uncle Ben. IMPROVEMENT! [Edited 8/13/09 19:29pm] [Edited 8/13/09 19:29pm] | |
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kibbles said: you have the nurse claiming not to have seen anything that would indicate drug addiction. tom meseareau says the same thing, that four years ago at the trial he saw nothing, but then you have chopra saying mj was asking him for oxycontin around the same time. then the competing versions of the facts from various family members. it's all so confusing. i guess the autopsy will tell the tale.
if murray is claiming 'ignorance' about mj's unusual problems, it just makes it all the worse for him. even the chef noticed that mj had debilitated in the two months from the time she left his employ until her return. how could a doctor not notice, or have no idea, and more importantly for his defense, apparently not care? how could you be giving a 'patient' who was clearly not well anything? someone with unusual problems and you're going to compound the problems? even if he doesn't go to jail, or even to trial, he can kiss his medical license good-bye. he'll barely be able to get a job at denny's by the time this is over. I feel like I'm playing Clue with this fucking shit. Michael Joseph Jackson, Sr., the hell was going on with you, potna? Oh and that fool won't be accepted into Denny's. They won't trust him with the food, think he gonna put some poison in their pancakes. [Edited 8/13/09 19:34pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: LOL he only has one pic , the infamous picture and everything about michael is a circus it's like he's more exciting in death smh Hold on, lemme find the OTHER Murray pic: Now see, I'm gonna speak like a Queer Eye for the Straight Guy savant, but see, no bloodshot eyes, his forehead ain't greasy, and he ain't smilin' like Uncle Ben. IMPROVEMENT! [Edited 8/13/09 19:29pm] [Edited 8/13/09 19:29pm] yep that's the other infamous picture .. | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: Hold on, lemme find the OTHER Murray pic: Now see, I'm gonna speak like a Queer Eye for the Straight Guy savant, but see, no bloodshot eyes, his forehead ain't greasy, and he ain't smilin' like Uncle Ben. IMPROVEMENT! [Edited 8/13/09 19:29pm] [Edited 8/13/09 19:29pm] yep that's the other infamous picture .. | |
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kibbles said: you have the nurse claiming not to have seen anything that would indicate drug addiction. tom meseareau says the same thing, that four years ago at the trial he saw nothing, but then you have chopra saying mj was asking him for oxycontin around the same time. then the competing versions of the facts from various family members. it's all so confusing. i guess the autopsy will tell the tale.
if murray is claiming 'ignorance' about mj's unusual problems, it just makes it all the worse for him. even the chef noticed that mj had debilitated in the two months from the time she left his employ until her return. how could a doctor not notice, or have no idea, and more importantly for his defense, apparently not care? how could you be giving a 'patient' who was clearly not well anything? someone with unusual problems and you're going to compound the problems? even if he doesn't go to jail, or even to trial, he can kiss his medical license good-bye. he'll barely be able to get a job at denny's by the time this is over. Michael was hiding it WELL because him being a addict was just as shocking as his death to me | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: But you know TMZ should use a better picture of that dude!
The Associated Press had a better picture of the man in comparison. Man, I knew his death was gonna be a weird story but GOT DAMN! madness man thisn't even funny.god damn i always hoped michael would live tho be an old man to avoid this kinds of ISH but am i really suprised about this craziness [Edited 8/13/09 19:37pm] [Edited 8/13/09 19:38pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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i have a question for those who remember the thriller megamania...is this as big as it was or bigger? | |
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mimi07 said: babybugz said: madness man thisn't even funny.god damn iays hoped michael would live tho be an old man to avoid this kinds of ISH but an i really suprised about this craziness It's not funny .. I really have no words for this whole situation . | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: i have a question for those who remember the thriller megamania...is this as big as it was or bigger?
What you mean? As big as this news story is or as big as people portrayed it as? | |
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mimi07 said: babybugz said: madness man thisn't even funny.god damn i always hoped michael would live tho be an old man to avoid this kinds of ISH but am i really suprised about this craziness [Edited 8/13/09 19:37pm] [Edited 8/13/09 19:38pm] For a man who had trust issues, that's the shocking part for me, that he trusted AND hired... a cardiologist... to give him the shit he got off and on since '97. [Edited 8/13/09 19:40pm] | |
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kibbles said: you have the nurse claiming not to have seen anything that would indicate drug addiction. tom meseareau says the same thing, that four years ago at the trial he saw nothing, but then you have chopra saying mj was asking him for oxycontin around the same time. then the competing versions of the facts from various family members. it's all so confusing. i guess the autopsy will tell the tale.
if murray is claiming 'ignorance' about mj's unusual problems, it just makes it all the worse for him. even the chef noticed that mj had debilitated in the two months from the time she left his employ until her return. how could a doctor not notice, or have no idea, and more importantly for his defense, apparently not care? how could you be giving a 'patient' who was clearly not well anything? someone with unusual problems and you're going to compound the problems? even if he doesn't go to jail, or even to trial, he can kiss his medical license good-bye. he'll barely be able to get a job at denny's by the time this is over. a lot of those doctors are covering their asses. if you have noticed that one nurse has given different accounts from her original statement. i'm well aware of Michael's drug problem but does anyone find it strange that the people who are speaking out about his drug use haven't seen him or talked to him for years such as Uri Gellar since 03...Michael was using them then or brian oxman who hasn't worked for the family in awhile. | |
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Timmy84 said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: i have a question for those who remember the thriller megamania...is this as big as it was or bigger?
What you mean? As big as this news story is or as big as people portrayed it as? as big as michael was during that time...bigger than or now? more popular then or now? | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: i have a question for those who remember the thriller megamania...is this as big as it was or bigger?
well i wasn't alive but from what i see it's hard to compare cause then it was about music then so the news was all good and positive NOW it's about music and MADNESS, u can't make the kind of stuff involving this michael jackson saga popularity is probably the same or moreso now but it was a positve obsseions then and now people are remember what a talent michael was and then u have this crazy stuff in the news thrown in people's face so that's not really a a positive popularity [Edited 8/13/09 19:45pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Timmy84 said: What you mean? As big as this news story is or as big as people portrayed it as? as big as michael was during that time...bigger than or now? more popular then or now? Bigger then. Even though he didn't tour globally during "Thriller", it was a big worldwide thing because the videos were starting to be played on MTV overseas and before that, they got the songs through the radio and saw him doing the moonwalk. He was already pushing 40 million copies worldwide by 1985 with "Thriller" and not too many solo artists were even doing THAT. [Edited 8/13/09 19:44pm] | |
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mimi07 said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: i have a question for those who remember the thriller megamania...is this as big as it was or bigger?
well i wasn't alivebut from wat i see it's hard to compare cause then it was about music so the mais was all good and positive NOW it's about music and MADNESS, u can't make the kind of stuff involving this michael jackson saga The madness overwhelmed the music in some ways. | |
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Timmy84 said: mimi07 said: well i wasn't alivebut from wat i see it's hard to compare cause then it was about music so the mais was all good and positive NOW it's about music and MADNESS, u can't make the kind of stuff involving this michael jackson saga The madness overwhelmed the music in some ways. it's been like that for a while Now you have people getting into him again but it's bandwagon fans | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: The madness overwhelmed the music in some ways. it's been like that for a while Now you have people getting into him again but it's bandwagon fans They'll hate him again next year. | |
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The cover of "The Remix Suite". | |
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Timmy84 said: mimi07 said: man thisn't even funny.god damn i always hoped michael would live tho be an old man to avoid this kinds of ISH but am i really suprised about this craziness [Edited 8/13/09 19:37pm] [Edited 8/13/09 19:38pm] For a man who had trust issues, that's the shocking part for me, that he trusted AND hired... a cardiologist... to give him the shit he got off and on since '97. [Edited 8/13/09 19:40pm] yeah,michael wasn't a medical expert so propofol was obviously suggested to him by some doctor...during the history tour some doctor convinced him that it is harmless if he's monitored.at least then the doctor was an anethesiologist. michael must felt safe because he had done it before but that is still NO excuse to take something so dangerous cause something is bound to go wrong sooner or later. last week i had surgery and i was put under anesthesia and i think it's criminal that a doctor would give this to a a patient at home without all the proper equipment and by himself!!!! i had about 5+ experts watching over my breathing and watching the monitors and stuff. i feel sick that a doctor recommended this to michael and made him feel like this was safe.plus i was on it for like 3+ hrs and i woke up drowsy as hell "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: it's been like that for a while Now you have people getting into him again but it's bandwagon fans They'll hate him again next year. Exactly ,he's like a fad for the Moment | |
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Timmy84 said: The cover of "The Remix Suite". that cover is hot "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: Timmy84 said: For a man who had trust issues, that's the shocking part for me, that he trusted AND hired... a cardiologist... to give him the shit he got off and on since '97. [Edited 8/13/09 19:40pm] yeah,michael wasn't a medical expert so propofol was obviously suggested to him by some doctor...during the history tour some doctor convinced him that it is harmless if he's monitored.at least then the doctor was an anethesiologist. michael must felt safe because he had done it before but that is still NO excuse to take something so dangerous cause something is bound to go wrong sooner or later. last week i had surgery and i was put under anesthesia and i think it's criminal that a doctor would give this to a a patient at home without all the proper equipment and by himself!!!! i had about 5+ experts watching over my breathing and watching the monitors and stuff. i feel sick that a doctor recommended this to michael and made him feel like this was safe.plus i was on it for like 3+ hrs and i woke up drowsy as hell Yeah it's crazy. I really blame the first person who suggested this drug was safe for him and blame MJ for believing him. I mean MJ was old enough to do some serious investigating back then so I wonder why didn't he? | |
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mimi07 said: Timmy84 said: The cover of "The Remix Suite". that cover is hot Yeah it's nice. It's like "the prince of pop". I wonder if he was really sitting on a throne tho, lol. Either way, it's a nice gesture/salute. | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: it's been like that for a while Now you have people getting into him again but it's bandwagon fans They'll hate him again next year. i dom't think so. this lady i work with has changed a lot of her opinion towards the positive to michael. People are starting to see the truth and the manipulation of the media when it comes to michael. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Timmy84 said: They'll hate him again next year. i dom't think so. this lady i work with has changed a lot of her opinion towards the positive to michael. People are starting to see the truth and the manipulation of the media when it comes to michael. It still gnaws me that they chose to ignore it when he was alive. | |
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Timmy84 said: The cover of "The Remix Suite". that's a nice cover .. isn't there a picture of Adult michael sitiing like that too it's two pics I saw | |
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babybugz said: Timmy84 said: The cover of "The Remix Suite". that's a nice cover .. isn't there a picture of Adult michael sitiing like that too it's two pics I saw With the king armor and everything. This was during the "Victory" era. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said:[quote] kibbles said: you have the nurse claiming not to have seen anything that would indicate drug addiction. tom meseareau says the same thing, that four years ago at the trial he saw nothing, but then you have chopra saying mj was asking him for oxycontin around the same time. then the competing versions of the facts from various family members. it's all so confusing. i guess the autopsy will tell the tale.
if murray is claiming 'ignorance' about mj's unusual problems, it just makes it all the worse for him. even the chef noticed that mj had debilitated in the two months from the time she left his employ until her return. how could a doctor not notice, or have no idea, and more importantly for his defense, apparently not care? how could you be giving a 'patient' who was clearly not well anything? someone with unusual problems and you're going to compound the problems? even if he doesn't go to jail, or even to trial, he can kiss his medical license good-bye. he'll barely be able to get a job at denny's by the time this is over. a lot of those doctors are covering their asses. if you have noticed that one nurse has given different accounts from her original statement. i'm well aware of Michael's drug problem but does anyone find it strange that the people who are speaking out about his drug use haven't seen him or talked to him for years such as Uri Gellar since 03...Michael was using them then or brian oxman who hasn't worked for the family in awhile. i'm well aware of Michael's drug problem but does anyone find it strange that the people who are speaking out about his drug use haven't seen him or talked to him for years such as Uri Gellar since 03...Michael was using them then or brian oxman who hasn't worked for the family in awhile. Yeah they haven't seen Michael in years because once they caught on to him being a junkie, he became unreachable. Michael didn't want anyone staging an intervention. He loved his drugs... If you couldn't get him dope he didn't wanna be bothered....plain and simple. That is why he was so tight with Elizabeth Taylor! I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault! | |
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Timmy84 said: babybugz said: that's a nice cover .. isn't there a picture of Adult michael sitiing like that too it's two pics I saw With the king armor and everything. This was during the "Victory" era. yeah and there was another one I saw in a people mag it look like it was during the Dangerous or the history era | |
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